RE: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8

2010-03-13 Thread Mark Scholten
-Original Message- From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgr...@ns.sol.net] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:53 PM To: Nathan Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8 There are sizable chunks that are fairly quiet (un-interesting numbers, luck of the draw,

Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following example: Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location, ge1-1-1=interface,

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread James Jones
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. On 3/13/10 10:47 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread virendra rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, If my memory serves me correct, Richard presented traceroute presto at nanog47 that covered location identifiers. HTH, regards, /virendra Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread James Bensley
On 13 March 2010 16:06, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. We use ancient Greek gods. -- Regards, James ;)

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Tim Sanderson
...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On 13 March 2010 16:06, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: On my last network I

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread aaron
STD's --Original Message-- From: Tim Sanderson To: NANOG list Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:12 PM ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
Singers: tenchi% ping elvis elvis is alive tenchi% On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, aa...@wholesaleinternet.net wrote: STD's --Original Message-- From: Tim Sanderson To: NANOG list Subject: RE: Network Naming Conventions Sent: Mar 13, 2010 12:12 PM ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim

Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8

2010-03-13 Thread Derek J. Balling
On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Joe Greco wrote: There's no way it's as widely used, and generally speaking, it appears that those who have used it have done so out of ignorance and(/or?) stupidity, sometimes blindly following documentation without comprehending, etc. I don't know about that.

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread bmanning
islands rivers/creeks types of swords fruit minerals fermented things 3char strings punctuation marks twins ... --bill On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread ck
i believe in keeping host names as short as possible, so to start, i wouldn't put the location in the hostname, but putting the loc/pop code in dns (eg: sjc1.nexicom, tor1.nexicom, iad1.nexicom, etc), same goes for rtr, you really dont need that, imo personally, i prefer the shortest possible

Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8

2010-03-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 03/12/2010 01:20 PM, Axel Morawietz wrote: Am 12.03.2010 17:03, schrieb Nathan: [...] Its amazing how prolific 1.x traffic is. one reason might also be, that at least T-Mobile Germany uses 1.2.3.* for their proxies that deliver the content to mobile phones. And I'm not sure what they

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Ravi Pina
Heh. Host naming discussions is like religion and politics at parties. It only leads to someone going home crying, red wine spilled all over their new dress, and a black eye. Not in that order. -r On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Paul Stewart wrote: With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. Today, we use the following example: Core1-rtr-to-ge1-1-1-vl20.nexicom.net Core box #1, rtr=router, to=location,

Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8

2010-03-13 Thread Joe Greco
On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Joe Greco wrote: There's no way it's as widely used, and generally speaking, it appears that those who have used it have done so out of ignorance and(/or?) stupidity, sometimes blindly following documentation without comprehending, etc. I don't know about

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 3/13/2010 10:47, Paul Stewart wrote: Hi Folks... With many changes going on this year in our network, I figured it's a good time to revisit our naming conventions used in our networks. I favor using CLLI code (well fake ones) TAMQFLTART1 is in the city of tampa (TAMQ) in FLorida at

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Randy Bush
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well?

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Erik L
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well? He wrote last instead of current...make your own conclusions ;)

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Roy
On 3/13/2010 10:12 AM, Tim Sanderson wrote: ...Types of coffee and donuts Tim -Original Message- From: James Bensley [mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:27 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions On 13 March 2010 16:06, James

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Shein
On March 13, 2010 at 18:24 aa...@wholesaleinternet.net (aa...@wholesaleinternet.net) wrote: STD's hmm, since we actually are STD.COM that could be a useful idea... -b

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Shein
On March 13, 2010 at 10:53 c...@sandcastl.es (ck) wrote: i believe in keeping host names as short as possible, so to start, i At BU we brought down about 1/3 of the internet (no joke!) around 1985 when our very first host table entries to SRI-NIC contained single letter hosts (like a.bu.edu)

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded - game me more to think about than I thought was possible ;) Paul The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed

RE: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah, just learning that... got a *tonne* of offline replies. Planets won't work well, simpson characters we'll run out very quickly umm.. forgot the rest. We were looking for something that makes sense to the function of the box itself and scales up (as per some other folks point) Some

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Ravi Pina
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 04:58:11AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters. scaled well? Don't forget there were 5 Snowballs...

Re: Network Naming Conventions

2010-03-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: Open ended questions obviously - looking for many ideas. I think a key question to ask yourself is who needs to be able to interpret your names? Depending on your business, customers, engineers, etc you may have

security questions

2010-03-13 Thread adrian kok
Hi I have questions about security I am using mozila to access gmail as https://mail.google.com/mail Why mozilla prompts me the alert box? You have requested an encrypted page that contains some unencrypted information. Information that you see or enter on this page could easily be read by a

Re: security questions

2010-03-13 Thread Larry Brower
adrian kok wrote: Hi I have questions about security I am using mozila to access gmail as https://mail.google.com/mail Why mozilla prompts me the alert box? You have requested an encrypted page that contains some unencrypted information. Information that you see or enter on this page could

RE: security questions

2010-03-13 Thread Brandon Kim
Yup, what Larry said.I wouldn't be too concerned about it. But some managers may make a big deal... Some sites use images located at a different webserver that isn't HTTPS, and sometimes there are hidden iframes that bring you info from non-secure sites. But the actual login is posted to

IPv6, multihoming, and customer allocations

2010-03-13 Thread Rick Ernst
A couple of different incantations searching the archive didn't enlighten me, and I find it hard to believe this hasn't been discussed. Apologies and a request for pointers if I'm rehashing an old question. As a small/regional ISP, we got our /32 assigned and it's time to start moving forward

Re: IPv6, multihoming, and customer allocations

2010-03-13 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Rick Ernst wrote: A /48 seems to be the standard end-user/multi-homed customer allocation and is the minimum allocation size from ARIN. A /32 provides 65K /48s so, in theory, we could give each of our customers a /48 and still have room for growth. A /48 also appears to

Re: IPv6, multihoming, and customer allocations

2010-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Rick Ernst wrote: A couple of different incantations searching the archive didn't enlighten me, and I find it hard to believe this hasn't been discussed. Apologies and a request for pointers if I'm rehashing an old question. Don't have the pointers handy,