Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Jason Lewis wrote:
 
 It's very clear.  I went back and forth with support, asking how to
 automate my bulk transfer with the new system.
 
 Me: Is the bulk data download going to be available for automated
 download. I can currently download the data daily from the ftp via a
 script. The new web page doesn't seem to support that.
 Support:  No, there is no automation by design.
 
 I'm ok with whatever system they provide if the functionality stays
 the same.  I don't understand what they gain by making a human login
 and download the file.

Jason - 

 My apologies for the confusion over this when you called in;
 while we had briefed the support team on RESTful WHOIS, we
 hadn't covered the updated Bulk Whois interface as it is a 
 bit of a specialized item and coming out on the next release
 of ARIN Online due to its need for API key support.  The 
 26 June release of ARIN Online will allow you to create and 
 manage these keys, which in turn may be used in RESTful calls 
 (and email templates!) for authentication. A brief overview
 of this feature was provided at the ARIN Toronto meeting and
 is available here:

 
https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXV/PDF/Tuesday/Newton-REST-and-Relax.pdf
 
 We will rollout the API key functionality and Bulk Whois via the
 RESTful interface with this next release of ARIN Online on 26 June, 
 and this will allow the Bulk Whois data to be downloaded directly 
 without logging into ARIN Online by using a RESTful HTTP request 
 containing your API key.  As Mark Kosters noted in his message, 
 we did contact current Bulk Whois users ahead of time about these 
 changes, but if you were missed or have any questions about the 
 change, please don't hesitate to contact myself or Mark directly.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Mark Kosters ma...@arin.net
 Date: June 11, 2010 3:17:49 PM EDT
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service
 
 Hi
 
 ARIN is making significant improvements to our systems and services. ARIN
 encourages the community to look for upcoming features as details are 
 available at: https://www.arin.net/features.
 
 I would like to clear up the confusion about the changes to access to
 Bulk Whois that have been discussed in this thread. The next release of 
 ARIN Online on 26 June 2010 will include an easy way of automating bulk 
 Whois reports. ARIN sent an announcement about this change to all current 
 Bulk Whois recipients on 1 June 2010. The current legacy ftp service for 
 Bulk Whois recipients will continue to operate until 31 August 2010. This 
 should allow enough time to make the changes required to your scripts to
 migrate to the new solution.
 
 Regards,
 Mark Kosters
 ARIN CTO
 




 




Verizon contact

2010-06-12 Thread Randy McAnally
Anyone with a Verizon network engineering contact on the list?  There's a bad
router/link in Reston, VA for the past 36 hours that we're having a real heck
of a time trying to route around.  Hoping we can get someone at Verizon to
take a look at things.

--
Randy




Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
  My apologies for the confusion over this when you called in;
  while we had briefed the support team on RESTful WHOIS, we
  hadn't covered the updated Bulk Whois interface as it is a 
  bit of a specialized item and coming out on the next release
  of ARIN Online due to its need for API key support.  The 
  26 June release of ARIN Online will allow you to create and 
  manage these keys, which in turn may be used in RESTful calls 
  (and email templates!) for authentication. A brief overview
  of this feature was provided at the ARIN Toronto meeting and
  is available here:
 
  
 https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXV/PDF/Tuesday/Newton-REST-and-Relax.pdf
  
  We will rollout the API key functionality and Bulk Whois via the
  RESTful interface with this next release of ARIN Online on 26 June, 
  and this will allow the Bulk Whois data to be downloaded directly 
  without logging into ARIN Online by using a RESTful HTTP request 
  containing your API key.  As Mark Kosters noted in his message, 
  we did contact current Bulk Whois users ahead of time about these 
  changes, but if you were missed or have any questions about the 
  change, please don't hesitate to contact myself or Mark directly.

john,

today, a research batch script running periodic bulk whois work has a
line something like

ncftpget ftp://user:p...@ftp.arin.net/arin_db.txt.gz

well, it can actually be simpler.

for the web 9.3 impaired of us, could you describe the simple batch
script line under the new improved system?

thanks!

randy



Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
 john,
 
 today, a research batch script running periodic bulk whois work has a
 line something like
 
ncftpget ftp://user:p...@ftp.arin.net/arin_db.txt.gz
 
 well, it can actually be simpler.
 
 for the web 9.3 impaired of us, could you describe the simple batch
 script line under the new improved system?

Randy - You're going to have to get on ARIN Online at least 
once to generate an key (this means after June 26), but then
accessing the data should be just as simple for a batch script
(i.e. use curl or wget for this purpose).  I've extracted the 
relevant draft info from the June 26 release documents and 
attached below.  This is obviously subject to change until 
the release actually comes out...

/John

 DOWNLOADING USING AN API KEY 

The report can be downloaded directly without logging into 
ARIN Online using a RESTful HTTP request containing your 
API key.  The URL must look like:

https://www.arin.net/public/rest/downloads/nvpr?apikey=YOUR-API-KEY

There are a variety of ways to automate the retrieval of 
this report.  For example, on a Linux system, where your 
API key is API----, you can use the 
following 'curl' command to download the report file:

curl 
https://www.arin.net/public/rest/downloads/nvpr?apikey=API---- 
 arin_nvpr.zip

You can manage your API keys on the when logged into your 
ARIN Online account.





Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
 You're going to have to get on ARIN Online at least once to generate
 an key

i can probably survive this experience.  is there a tee shirt?  :)

 The report can be downloaded directly without logging into 
 ARIN Online using a RESTful HTTP request containing your 
 API key.  The URL must look like:
 
 https://www.arin.net/public/rest/downloads/nvpr?apikey=YOUR-API-KEY

this looks quite doable.

thank you!

randy



Large number of IPv6 bogons with spoofed ASpath

2010-06-12 Thread Andree Toonk

Hi List

Yesterday I noticed a large number of 'bogon' IPv6 announcement.
I think it was about a 100 different (IPv6) bogon prefixes [1] [2] being 
announced from a what looks a variety of origin ASns.


Being the administrator of one of these ASns, I'm quite confident that 
we were not actually announcing this prefix (f006:9000::/24).


Looking more carefully at the data. it looks like the Origin AS / 
ASpaths are spoofed. I suspect it's just one person/organization 
somewhere in  AS174 or AS3257 network which is announcing these bogons 
prepending it with different ASns.


Does anyone have an idea what this could be? Someone doing some kind of 
an experiment?


I summarized my observations here: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=299

If anyone has more info about this, please let me know as I am 
interested to learn more about this.


Thanks,
 Andree

[1] http://www.bgpmon.net/showbogons.php?inet=6
[2] http://bit.ly/cH1INE







Re: Large number of IPv6 bogons with spoofed ASpath

2010-06-12 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Andree Toonk wrote:


Hi List

Yesterday I noticed a large number of 'bogon' IPv6 announcement.
I think it was about a 100 different (IPv6) bogon prefixes [1] [2] being 
announced from a what looks a variety of origin ASns.


I have seen 1000::/32 come in once and a while, but I've noticed that it's 
hard to catch from where this is coming from.  But I've not seen the 
others.


But it does point to the larger lesson that just because it is IPv6, it 
doesn't mean that prefix-fiters (and other tools) aren't required like in 
IPv4.


wfms



Please report issues with i.root-servers.net

2010-06-12 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik


All,

Renesys has since a few days had a blog post at 
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2010/06/two-strikes-i-root.shtml. On the 9th I 
urged them to provide us with any data if they are seeing incorrect responses 
from NAY i.root-servers.net instance, and share that with n...@netnod.se. I 
have so far received a single email from Renesys on friday morning CET time. 
That email did not contain any data or further information. I asked to share 
that email with the Nanog list as Renesys will apparently share some results on 
studies of the i.root-servers.net in Beijing. I have no insight into what these 
findings, and Renesys did not respond to my request to see them before hand. 

As of today Renesys have updated their blog post with data that seems to 
indicate that they have seen incorrect responses from an i.root-servers.net 
instance. This is the first report of such responses since we re-activated our 
anycast node in Beijing, and we only saw this by monitoring the comments field 
to he blog post. At the time of re-activating the node we did test from all 
locations we could find and queried the i.root-servers.net node in Beijing, and 
we did not see any incorrect responses. 

Now, I would request that you all *please* report operational issues with 
i.root-servers.netm or in case you see any behavior you do not expect to 
n...@netnod.se. 

Unfortunately noone from us will attend the upcoming Nanog meeting, and I can't 
from the agenda see when the presentation is due. I am happy to answer any 
questions directly though, and I will try and read Renesys results as soon as 
they are published. In the mean time, as we are dealing what is potentially an 
operational problem, please report any issues to us. 

To provide some background, I will share some of my responses to the Renesys 
email on friday - although I admit they are taken out of context I think they 
do provide some general background information that might be worth sharing. 

---
As I wrote in my response to your blogpost, the node in China has ALWAYS been 
globally reachable (what ever that means. In our terminology it means we are 
not exporting the prefixes with no-export, so the prefixes propagates as far as 
our peers advertise them). 
---
As to the above, many countries tamper with DNS responses so I have no way of 
assuring anyone that a packet that traverses many countries, many regulations 
and many networks owners are ever tampered with. In the case where queries to 
our node in Beijing was seen to respond with incorrect responses, we have 
obviously been in discussions with our hosts for the node in Beijing and they 
have as we understand it been in discussions with many of the networks in 
China. What we understand from these discussions, the occurrence of these 
incorrect responses for queries sent to i.root-servers.net was a mistake. I 
have no insight into why or how the mistake happened, but we have been assured 
it won't be possible for it to happen again. That said - let me again stress 
that neither we nor anyone else, can assure that packets on the Internet does 
not get tampered with along the path. What we can do is to deploy mechanisms 
that will detect this tampering at the application layer, for example DNSSEC. 
---

Kurt Erik Lindqvist
CEO Netnod





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Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread John Curran
On Jun 12, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Randy Bush wrote:

 You're going to have to get on ARIN Online at least once to generate
 an key
 
 i can probably survive this experience.  is there a tee shirt?  :)

Your request has been noted...  ;-)

 The report can be downloaded directly without logging into 
 ARIN Online using a RESTful HTTP request containing your 
 API key.  The URL must look like:
 
 https://www.arin.net/public/rest/downloads/nvpr?apikey=YOUR-API-KEY
 
 this looks quite doable.
 
 thank you!

Thank you (and Jason Lewis!) for pointing out the lack of 
actionable information regarding this announcement and its
impact on Bulk Whois.  I've chatted with Mark and Nate on 
the timing of this service change, and going forward we'll 
make sure to have replacement services fully deployed and 
verifiable by the community before announcing an end date 
for the current service.

Thanks again!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN






On the control of the Internet.

2010-06-12 Thread Larry Sheldon
http://volokh.com/2010/06/13/32843/

What happens when the US shuts down part of its part?

Depends on what part it shut down, of course.

But what are the available boundaries for the parts in question?

Will that have to change?

For example--what happens when name-service information for a part that
is not shutdown comes from a part that is?

What if an exchange point for parts that are not shutdown is shutdown.

And spare me the tinfoil hat stuff--tinfoil hats have not worked for a
year or more.
-- 
Somebody should have said:
A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.

Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb contesting
the vote.

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