Re: [Nanog-futures] Moving Forward - What kind of NANOG do we want?

2010-07-03 Thread Todd Underwood
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Jay Hennigan j...@west.net wrote: On 7/2/10 8:29 PM, Simon Lyall wrote: Unless people serious intended for the organisation to have regular [1] meetings outside of North America (which I doubt) then it should retain the current general name and focus.

Re: [Nanog-futures] Moving Forward - What kind of NANOG do we want?

2010-07-03 Thread Andy Davidson
On 3 Jul 2010, at 04:29, Simon Lyall wrote: Unless people serious intended for the organisation to have regular [1] meetings outside of North America (which I doubt) No, don't. The rest of the world already has $regionNOG. If Nanog becaome WorldNOG, someone would make, err, NANOG again.

Re: XO feedback

2010-07-03 Thread todd glassey
On 7/2/2010 10:47 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Adam Rothschild asr+na...@latency.netasr%2bna...@latency.net wrote: How many co-lo centers do they operate and where are they ? - Curiosity on my part. Todd Here in the New York Metro, XO's collocation offering is

Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively with varying phrases

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 10:43 AM, Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I have searched google extensively

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/10 12:22 PM, Mike wrote: Alan Bryant wrote: I haven't seen much traffic on this list about Mikrotik or RouterOS, but I thought it was worth a shot as a last ditch effort to get this going. Does anyone know of a solution to connect a POS OC-3 to a router running Mikrotik's RouterOS? I

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Mike mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would choose to route at those interfaces/speeds. However, if you must

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Christopher Young
Mike, Check out http://www.usedcisco.com they have some good prices. -- Christopher Young InterMetro Communications NOC Department imc...@intermetro.net 866-4IMCNOC, (866) 446-2662 805-433-8000 Main 805-433-0050 Direct 805-433-2589 Mobile -Original Message- From: Alan Bryant

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Alan Bryant wrote: I'm just trying to see what options there are and make the decision off of that. If Cisco or Juniper is the only way, then so be it. I just want to be sure. The real issue is that these legacy telco interfaces are just expensive, straight up, and being forced to use

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Date: Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:40:07PM -0500 Quoting Aaron Wendel (aa...@wholesaleinternet.net): I sent an inquiry in to ARIN yesterday for a certain ASN that was available and was told that management won't allow them to issue requested numbers. :( RIPE

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Owen DeLong
Vanity ASNs are a horrible idea, IMHO... Unless you want WIPO to come in and start applying UDRP to IP addresses and ASNs, I suggest this be avoided. Owen On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Mans Nilsson wrote: Subject: RE: Inquiries to Acquire IPs Date: Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:40:07PM -0500

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:22 -0700, Mike wrote: Mikrotik is great at lower end stuff where you have ethernet interfaces. Real POS OC-3 however, ain't in it's repertory and would not be what I would choose to route at those interfaces/speeds.

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 10:42:55PM +0200, Mans Nilsson wrote: aut-num:AS31337 as-name:ELEET-AS descr: ELEET Network descr: Location: Sweden (Story is, IIRC, that adjacent number was assigned initially, but the confirmation mail was answered with Can I

RE: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Scott Berkman
I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. -Scott -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:11 PM To: Alan Bryant Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection Alan Bryant wrote: I'm

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we now have a ratified 100G Ethernet standard. Much of it is

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/3/2010 17:12, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we now have a ratified 100G

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Alan Bryant
Ok, scenario time. I've found a 7206VXR\NPE-G1 w/ 256MB RAM. It has the 3 onboard GigE ports and a PA-POS-1OC3 card in it that should be fine for our OC-3 connection. We need a total of 5 Ethernet ports, not necessarily all GigE. I found this card, PA-2FE-TX that would give us 2 10/100 ports.

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
Do you plan on getting full BGP routes from your upstream? If so, go with 1Gb of ram on the NPE G1. I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend

RE: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Ray Burkholder
I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature set you'll want. I typically use the Service Provider IOS with IPSEC, 3DES and

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 05:12:14PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 07:32:48PM -0400, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. It's around 25 years old (work started in 1985, first standards published in 1988) and we

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Chris Gotstein
12.4 Service provider has IPv6 and OSPFv3. On 7/3/2010 8:09 PM, Ray Burkholder wrote: I believe that IOS 12.4.25c is the latest version for the 7200VXR series. It's stable, been running it for quite some time. Depending on what you will be doing with this router, will depend on what feature

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Mike
Butch Evans wrote: More functionality from a Cisco? You MUST be joking. MT (and ImageStream for that matter) can do WAY more than Cisco for a fraction of the price. Both will offer a much better firewall option, infinitely better QOS

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
The 15.0 series is available for the 7200VXR. However, unless I'm missing something, note that the Service Provider version doesn't have OSPFv3 for IPv6. is-is

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/3/2010 18:32, Scott Berkman wrote: I really wouldn't use the word legacy to describe SONET and OC-3's. The word legacy is applied to any product that has actually shipped