On 7/28/2010 1:16 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
>>> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
>>> anything by themselves.
>> Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
>>
>> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
>> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
>> anything by themselves.
>
> Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
> shares so ICANN can't sign anything without th
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:20:51 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
> Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
> number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
> anything by themselves.
Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
> Obviously you have approximately zero understanding of the crypto community.
> They tend to be the most paranoid people out there - and the *only* way to get
> acceptance of a signed root was to make sure that ICANN is *not* in posession
> of enough keying material to sign a key by itself. In ad
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:24:57 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> What I think is, this is leaving them wide open to attack. If an attack was
> state-sponsored, its likely they would be able to stop those selected people
> reaching the location in the United States by way of operational officers
> inte
> Of course this is just my opinion.
Which is totally unfounded and equivalent to a ton of dung.
Please stop with the non-operational content conspiracy theories, tnx.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Joel M Snyder wrote:
But... you can take this sort of 'single point of failure' argument almost as
far as you want. In the security business (where I spend most of my time), I
see people do this a lot--they get deep into the ultra-ultra-ultra marginal
risk, which takes th
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
>
>> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
>>help
>> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
>>
>>
>> Paul Kane talked to Eddie M
Joe Greco wrote:
From my point of view, my ideal alerting system is probably something
like a smartphone running an app that's connected to the network
monitoring system, and can tell me:
1) when it has lost that connection, and
2) whatever problems the network monitoring system chooses to let
> I guess my point is: yeah, Brandon, Joe, you're right. But, I've built
> the alerting solution that minimizes the risk I will miss an alert I
> care about while also minimizing my overall cost and minimizing the
> complexity of the alerting system. I'm happy to make it better,
> cheaper, mo
Once upon a time, Joel M Snyder said:
> Obviously, using SMTP-to-SMS-over-the-Internet to tell yourself that
> your SMTP infrastructure is hosed is the wrong answer.
We even ran into this with paging and direct submission via TAP. We had
a POTS line not provisioned over fiber (so not the same p
On 28 July 2010 15:42, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:38:25PM +0200, Joel M
> Snyder wrote:
> > But... you can take this sort of 'single point of failure' argument
> > almost as far as you want. In the security business (where I spend most
> > of my time),
In a message written on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:38:25PM +0200, Joel M Snyder
wrote:
> But... you can take this sort of 'single point of failure' argument
> almost as far as you want. In the security business (where I spend most
> of my time), I see people do this a lot--they get deep into the
On 7/28/10 3:40 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
I would definitely consider the direction that cell and SMS is moving to
be at-risk and probably effectively in-band during a communications
crisis. As I pointed out to someone else last night in private e-mail:
> [summary: TDM will run over same infrastruc
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Leen Besselink wrote:
>
> If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
>
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
See also the press releases from Bath University:
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2010/07/26/internet-secur
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
>
> Weren't the FCC and at&t recently suggesting that VoIP was the future of
> telephony?
BT are currently upgrading the UK's phone system to VOIP. But it's running
on a private network.
Tony.
--
f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/
SOUTH FITZROY: NORTHEAST
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Joel M Snyder wrote:
> > It's completely out-of-band, even more so than our old
> > touch-tone-phone-paging system was, so I'm actually happier with the total
> > performance. Given that GSM coverage is increasing while pager coverage
> > seems static or decreasing, SMS v
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Joel M Snyder wrote:
It's completely out-of-band, even more so than our old
touch-tone-phone-paging system was, so I'm actually happier with the total
performance. Given that GSM coverage is increasing while pager coverage
seems static or decreasing, SMS via out-of-band G
From: Jim Richardson
Subject: Re: Web expert on his 'catastrophe' key for the internet
> > As wonderful as the new communications paradigms are, do we also
> > have a situation now developing where it might eventually become
> > very difficult or even impossible to ensure out-of-band lines of
>
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 10:33 +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> One, I do not see the operational relevance of this "news".
The real problem is that articles like this DO get considerable
attention in the UK - a place where "the internet" has yet to gain true
understanding and recognition as a national
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
> A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
> help
> restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
>
>
> Paul Kane talked to Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme about what he might
> be
> c
Leen Besselink wrote:
> On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>>
>> That plus the phrase "restarting the Internet" is more than a little bit
>> misleading.
>>
>>
>
> If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
>
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-br
On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
That plus the phrase "restarting the Internet" is more than a little bit
misleading.
If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
By
On 28 July 2010 04:52, Joe Greco wrote:
> Right, I think I pointed out it was basically SMS, despite being billed
> as "enterprise paging," which brings us back to the previous question
>
> Or are you saying that there are SMS networks out there that aren't part
> of the cellular network? :-)
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