Has anybody ever succeeded at sending any e-mail to the
address? It doesn't seem to
work for me. I just get undeliverable bounces.
I'd like to, you know, at least inform them about all of these hijacked
routes that _they_ are announcing, but I guess I need to do that via
smoke signal or somethi
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:14:27PM +, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
> (keep in mind, each sender gets a unique password from the receiver,
> this can be stored in the address book along with the email address
> itself).
I'd like to see the I-D which explains how this is going to work,
with particu
On 7/10/10 6:28 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
> On 10/6/10 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
>> Number resources are not and should not be associated with domain
>> resources at the policy level. This would make absolutely no sense
>> whatsoever.
>
> hmm. ... "are not" ... so the event complained
> -Original Message-
> From: Heath Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:24 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: New hijacking - Done via via good old-fashioned Identity
> Theft
>
> Wouldn't it have to be illegal before punishments could be determined?
> Isn't this kind of key
> We get people calling our noc numbers pretty often trying to report
> abuse for other people's networks... that is always fun
>> not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from
>> mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but
>> basically pathetic.
no, i mean
The only way in which I can see facebook as required for operations is when one
is hosting apps that must interact with the facbook API. Facebook is a site
we keep an eye on from our NOC simply because it is important to a lot our
larger transit customers due to them having apps that require
We get people calling our noc numbers pretty often trying to report abuse for
other people's networks... that is always fun
John van Oppen / AS11404
-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:16 PM
To: Matthew Huff
Cc: ' (nanog@nanog
-
Exactly when and where did RIR whois databases gain any legal status as
an authoritive source of information, rather than just an internal tool
for network operators? (as far as i see, the rirs are legally nothing more
than a collective of network operators, not an authority in any way).
-
E
On 10/06/2010 06:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a
giant panty raid. This isn't the outages list& I am rather annoyed that we
must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook. Just because you are
panicing does
>>1) Is spamming from within the US criminal activity?
>
> Sadly, it appears not.
>
> In many cases it is however actionable. (And in other cases involving
> actual criminal activity, e.g. as prohibited by 18 USC 1030, `Fraud and
> related activity in connection with computers', it may, I think, b
not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from
mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but
basically pathetic.
randy
Hello,
if you are somewhat involved with technical or non technical operations of IX
points within Los Angeles / Orange County area, could you please contact me
off-list?
thank you.
mehmet
Giant Panty Raid. Now I know what I'll be calling my weekend/overnight
shifts. Who says being a Network Engineer can't be fun?
Q
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
>
>
> This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent
> of a giant panty raid. Thi
- Original Message -
> From: "david raistrick"
> To: "Andrew Kirch"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:05:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert!
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
> >
> >> No, the majo
In message ,
Heath Jones wrote:
>> Certainly, fine folks at Reliance Globalcom Services, Inc. could tell
>> us who is paying them to connect these hijacked blocks to their network,
>> but I rather doubt that they are actually going to come clean and do
>> that.
>
>Ron, I haven't been following
On 06/10/10 17:05 -0400, david raistrick wrote:
my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content
provider, and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND
service. I have dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others
who perhaps dont yet hire folks who even know what
From: sc...@doc.net.au [mailto:sc...@doc.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Scam telemarketers spoofing our NOC phone number for callerid
>There were some laws passed recently which makes "faking" caller-id illegal,
>although I'm not sure exactly what the details are (
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:39:03 EDT, Andrew Kirch said:
> No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is
> not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
> loss at a peering point, DoS attack.
Yes, but anytime something spikes the number of calls at m
On 10/6/2010 5:05 PM, david raistrick wrote:
>
>
> to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog
> or not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce
> outages, and outage-discuss to discuss them).
>
>
> my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
to be clear, I
> -Original Message-
> From: Guerra, Ruben [mailto:ruben.gue...@arrisi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:47 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Facebook down!! Alert!
>
> Passes Andrew the shotgun... Please kill all FB threads with it. :)
>
> The only thing I noticed being do
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
--
david raistrickhttp://www.netmeister.org/news/lear
Passes Andrew the shotgun... Please kill all FB threads with it. :)
The only thing I noticed being down last night is battle.net ;). Guess you know
where my priorities are. Lol
-Rg
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Kirch [mailto:trel...@trelane.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:3
OpenDNS is my favorite for blocking things like FB and all sorts of other
productivity killers.
The information in this email and any attachments are for the sole use of the
intended recipient and may contain privileged and confidential information. If
you are not the intended recipient, any u
On 10/6/2010 4:33 PM, david raistrick wrote:
>
> so the majority defines operational now, huh? wow. nice to know that
> network service providers outnumber other companies these days... (of
> course, those service providers also make their money from facebook
> consumers)
No, the majority do
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matt Baldwin wrote:
I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a
tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g.
Perhaps, then, we should instead be discussing the business benefits of
blocking facebook so companies can regai
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Greg Whynott wrote:
just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook
outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight
outage.
IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose
potential sales/revenu
> From: "Mark"
> It's back up. There goes that short burst of productivity.
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Mark Hofman wrote:
>
> > Ditto In AU and from other reports US.
> > Guess productivity will go up ;-)
The irony is that the short burst of productivity was spent troubleshooting if
F
> just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook
> outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight
> outage.
IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose
potential sales/revenue. when facebook goes off the
I've use the app "Traceroute" before which aggregates most of the major
ISP's looking glass sites and seems to be pretty good about keeping on top
of it to clean up the broken ones.
http://remarkablepixels.com/traceroute
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> :Anyone know of an
I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a
tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g.
Zygna. So, net net a FB outage could be seen as a positive thing in
the course of a work day.
-matt
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, david raistrick wrote
Scott Howard wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>
>
>> Some do. Anyone with control of a phone system with digital lines (i.e.
>> asterisk with PRI) can trivially set callerID to whatever they want. There
>> are perfectly legitimate, and not so legitimate uses for this.
:Anyone know of an iPhone application for checking public Looking Glass servers?
:
:Boss called me in a panic when I was out for lunch to check on something and
would make my life much easier but searching for stuff on iTunes is awful.
If you have an AIM or Jabber client on your iPhone, there's b
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Bret Clark wrote:
I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service provider is
you've forgotten that facebook (and indeed twitter too) are service
providers that provide business-critical services.
just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn
On 10/6/10 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote:
On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
be subject to some expiry policy other than "it goes into the drop pool
and one of
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> Some do. Anyone with control of a phone system with digital lines (i.e.
> asterisk with PRI) can trivially set callerID to whatever they want. There
> are perfectly legitimate, and not so legitimate uses for this.
>
You don't even need the PRI.
Especially for Facebook alerts.. You are propagating a false perception
that everyone cares.
-g
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:20 PM, christian koch wrote:
> +1
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali wrote:
>
>> I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this.
>>
>>
On 06/10/2010 17:15, William Herrin wrote:
I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two days before
getting half a megabit per second worth of false SIP registration
attempts.
The script kiddies and botnets seem to by trying hard.
I started announcing a brand new RIR allocation about 4
I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service
provider is having problems and people questioning it since that can
affect many of us who depend on backbone connections, but sites like
facebook and twitter being down should not be posted here but on the
"sitesemployeeswastetim
googling iphone bgp, this result looked promising, but don't waste your
time. It appears to be more or less totally broken.
http://grid5.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/bgp-released/
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have found the iSSH application (iPhone + iPad) works well.
You can ssh tun
+1
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali wrote:
> I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this.
>
>
> On 10/5/10 9:46 PM, "Mike Lyon" wrote:
>
> > Same here in SF Bay Area
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith >wrote:
> >
> >> At 1:20am here in Canada,
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Mark Hofman wrote:
Guess productivity will go up ;-)
You'd think so, but my experience is that when Facebook goes down the
whole company will leave their desks and go to the networking people to
get them to fix the Facebook. And they won't leave until Facebook is back.
-
I have found the iSSH application (iPhone + iPad) works well.
You can ssh tunnel for things (eg: VNC) with ssh keys, etc..
- Jared
link:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/issh-ssh-vnc-console/id287765826?mt=8
On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:44 PM, St. Onge,Adam wrote:
> Anyone know of an iPhone application
Anyone know of an iPhone application for checking public Looking Glass servers?
Boss called me in a panic when I was out for lunch to check on something and
would make my life much easier but searching for stuff on iTunes is awful.
+1
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Guerra, Ruben wrote:
> Thanks for the notes Matt! :)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Petach [mailto:mpet...@netflight.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:54 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: 2010.10.06 NANOG50 day 3, Wednesday mornin
Thanks for the notes Matt! :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Petach [mailto:mpet...@netflight.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:54 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 2010.10.06 NANOG50 day 3, Wednesday morning notes
Thanks to everyone for a wonderful conference--this wraps
the l
William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Dan White wrote:
>
>> If your PBX is SIP based, you might be victim of a SIP registration hijack,
>> which are on the rise, based on traffic we've been seeing in our network.
>>
>
> I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:
> Thanks again for a wonderful conference!! :)
Thanks very much for the notes!
Regards,
-drc
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
>
> > Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
> > either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are
> > not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing.
> > People don't realize
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are
not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing.
People don't realize that caller id can
On 10/6/10 9:43 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX
subnet either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the
calls are not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller
id spoofing. People don't realize that caller id can be
Thanks to everyone for a wonderful conference--this wraps
the last of NANOG50--see you all in Miami!
Notes from this morning's session are posted at
http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2010.10.06-NANOG50-morning-notes.txt
sorry about the gaps, I kinda nodded off now and then--only got 2 hours
of sleep
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are not
orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing. People
don't realize that caller id can be spoofed and therefore are 100% sure th
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
Our system is PRI based, not sip.
PRI for origination and termination...but what are your phones? Old
school or VOIP/SIP? If your phone system supports SIP clients, it really
ought to be IP restricted to only allow your phones access, or use
somethi
Our system is PRI based, not sip.
Matthew Huff | One Manhattanville Rd
OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-460-4139
> -Original Message-
> From: wher...@gmail.com [mailto:wher...@gmail.com] On Behalf
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Dan White wrote:
> If your PBX is SIP based, you might be victim of a SIP registration hijack,
> which are on the rise, based on traffic we've been seeing in our network.
I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two days before
getting half a megabit per se
On 06/10/10 10:29 -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
We have recently gotten complaints of harrassing and high pressure sales scams
orginating from our NOC's phone number. Since the number is a virtual number on
the PBX, it can't be used for outgoing calls. I assume the scammers choose the
number from
On Oct 6, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote:
> On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
>> so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
>> be subject to some expiry policy other than "it goes into the drop pool
>> and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and t
We have recently gotten complaints of harrassing and high pressure sales scams
orginating from our NOC's phone number. Since the number is a virtual number on
the PBX, it can't be used for outgoing calls. I assume the scammers choose the
number from the whois db. Anyone else seen this happening?
On 10/5/10 10:01 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
> Hi
>
> Anyone can share the Network card experience
>
> ls onborad PCI Expresscard better or Plug in slot PCI Express card good?
both are likely to be pci-e x1 interfaces if it's a single or dual port
chipset.
> How are their performance in Gig transfer
On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
> so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
> be subject to some expiry policy other than "it goes into the drop pool
> and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and the associated non-traffic
> assets) for any interested
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block
allocations be subject to some expiry policy other than "it goes into
the drop pool and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and the
associated non-traffic assets) for any interested party at $50 per /24"?
Eric
> Certainly, fine folks at Reliance Globalcom Services, Inc. could tell
> us who is paying them to connect these hijacked blocks to their network,
> but I rather doubt that they are actually going to come clean and do
> that.
Ron, I haven't been following this anti-spam stuff much since it went
po
[[ Note: There are three more apparently hijacked blocks that are related
to the 75 specific blocks I am reporting on herein. I'll be reporting
on those other three blocks later on, but right now I just want to keep
it simple and report on just the ones relating to directnet.net. ]]
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