Re: [Nanog-futures] New Membership-WG Draft

2010-10-28 Thread Brian Johnson
 I suspect the board will set some kind of a discount for students.
 Personally, I would support a very large discount for full time
 students.

agreed


It still escapes me as to why a student should get any financial
stimulus to be a member of an organization that will help him/her with
their professional development. I'm always learning and I don't always
have a lot of money, so I should get a break too.

- Brian J.

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Re: DSL (or other similar) Connection in Singapore

2010-10-28 Thread Diogo Montagner
I think you can try Singtel.

Rgs

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 I have an urgent (today/tomorrow) requirement for how to deliver a normal
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 Has anyone got any contacts or links to pricing - also maybe someone who can
 install a router configured in Australia.

 I'm looking for a good download limit includes, or flat rate, with static IP
 a must.

 Please reply off-list.

 PS.. I realise this is NANog, but I assume people on this list may service
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Re: Ethernet performance tests

2010-10-28 Thread Stefano Gridelli
Hi Diogo

We use ixchariot endpoints installed on linux laptops to test sites
for voice readiness. Ixchariot calculates for you the MOS score and,
depending from the NIC, can also push close to 1 Gig of traffic. For
larger bandwidth tests (I believe 6-7 Gig) and fast re-route testing
(ms failover) we use ixia hardware.

Ciao


On 10/27/10, Diogo Montagner diogo.montag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone!!!

 Thank you for all answers. These answers are really what I was looking
 for

 Regards
 ./diogo -montagner



 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tim Jackson jackson@gmail.com wrote:
 Each KM does not ad 4.9ms..

 More like ~1msec per 100km...

 1/4/msec usually per OEO conversion (depends on the box)...

 --
 Tim

 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Mike Mainer mmai...@tekinside.com
 wrote:
 Exfo, JDSU, Fluke all offer hand held test sets that can run a rfc2544
 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2544.txt) test.  Do you own the path between
 cpe
 - cpe?  Remeber that for each km of fiber distance add about 4.9ms (one
 way) of latency.  Do basline tests on your cpe gear so you know what you
 are
 working with from the being.  Different tests at different speeds/cpe
 hand
 off (1Gig fiber, 10Gig fiber, Copper @ 10/100/1000) so that all varations
 are captured.

 Did this at a pervious company, had to test everything in everything
 deployable state.


 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Tim Jackson jackson@gmail.com
 wrote:

 We dispatch a technician to an end-site and perform tests either
 head-head with another test set, or to a loop at a far-end..

 We do ITU-T Y.156sam/EtherSAM and/or RFC2544 tests depending on the
 customer requirements. (some customers require certain tests for x
 minutes)

 http://www.exfo.com/en/Products/Products.aspx?Id=370
 ^--All of our technicians are equipped with those EXFO sets and that
 module. Also covers SONET/DS1/DS3 testing as well in a single easy(er)
 to carry set..

 --
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 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Diogo Montagner
 diogo.montag...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  I am looking for performance test methodology for ethernet-based
  circuits. These ethernet circuits can be: dark-fiber, l2circuit
  (martini), l2vpn (kompella), vpls or ng-vpls. Sometimes, the ethernet
  circuit can be a mix of these technologies, like below:
 
  CPE - metro-e - l2circuit - l2vpn - l2circuit - metro-e -
  CPE
 
  The goal is verify the performance end-to-end.
 
  I am looking for tools that can check at least the following
  parameters:
 
  - loss
  - latency
  - jitter
  - bandwidth
  - out-of-order delivery
 
  At this moment I have been used IPerf to achieve these results. But I
  would like to check if there is some test devices that can be used in
  situations like that to verify the ethernet-based circuit performance.
 
  The objective of these tests is to verify the signed SLAs of each
  circuit before the customer start to use it.
 
  I checked all MEF specifications and I only find something related to
  performance for Circuit Emulation over Metro-E (which is not my case).
 
  Appreciate your comments.
 
  Thanks!
  ./diogo -montagner
 
 




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Bandwidth into Haiti

2010-10-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Can anyone update me on the status of fiber bandwidth into Haiti ? 
Has the landing station been repaired yet after last years earthquake ?

Regards
Marshall Eubanks



Odd cableone traceroute with 0.0.0.0 in path

2010-10-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
Okay, so this has my head hurting a bit just trying to figure out just 
how this is possible and what kind of equipment would pull this stunt.



Tracing from here (cableone cable modem) to the outside world, I end up 
with the following at the beginning of my traceroute.



 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.759 ms  0.803 ms  0.769 ms
 2  0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)  10.462 ms  9.543 ms  8.043 ms
 3  192.168.32.65 (192.168.32.65)  9.984 ms  9.654 ms  9.570 ms
 4  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117)  25.960 ms  21.798 
ms  24.144 ms

  etc

0.0.0.0 as one of the hops.So, I pulled out LFT to make sure 
traceroute isn't going nuts.


Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1
Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
TTL LFT trace to 207.70.17.213:80/tcp
 1  192.168.1.1 0.9/0.9ms
 2 /9.8/10.3ms
 3  192.168.32.65 9.7/8.3ms
 4  10.255.255.1 9.1/8.4ms
 5  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117) 29.0/20.2ms

Fun, no entry for hop 2, plus there's an extra hop at #4.  Lets use verbose.

Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1 ... (verbosity level 2)
Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
SENT TCP  TTL=1 SEQ=648736948 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=2 SEQ=648736949 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736948 SRC=192.168.1.1 PTTL=1 PSEQ=648736948
SENT TCP  TTL=3 SEQ=648736950 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=4 SEQ=648736951 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=5 SEQ=648736952 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=6 SEQ=648736953 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736949 SRC=0.0.0.0 PTTL=2 PSEQ=648736949
SENT TCP  TTL=7 SEQ=648736954 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736950 SRC=192.168.32.65 PTTL=3 PSEQ=648736950
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736951 SRC=10.255.255.1 PTTL=4 PSEQ=648736951
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736953 SRC=4.68.105.30 PTTL=6 PSEQ=648736953


Am I going nuts, or is something really messed up somewhere upstream 
from the cable modem?  To quote someone from IRC who's just as confused, 
the null route just talked to me.


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Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Zaid Ali
Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach
is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be
interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw

Zaid





Re: Odd cableone traceroute with 0.0.0.0 in path

2010-10-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:55:56 -0600
Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote:

 Okay, so this has my head hurting a bit just trying to figure out just 
 how this is possible and what kind of equipment would pull this stunt.
 

My initial guess was that somebody put 0.0.0.0 text as the DNS PTR RR
value for that hop, however that isn't the case as both the name and
the IP address of the hop are 0.0.0.0.

My guess is that the ICMP error that traceroute uses to detect hops is
being sourced from 0.0.0.0 for some reason. Your cable modem wouldn't
be performing any RPF on incoming traffic, so there is nothing to
filter out 0.0.0.0 as an invalid source address (or it may actually be
valid for these ICMP errors - it's the unspecified address.)

 
 Tracing from here (cableone cable modem) to the outside world, I end up 
 with the following at the beginning of my traceroute.
 
 
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.759 ms  0.803 ms  0.769 ms
   2  0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)  10.462 ms  9.543 ms  8.043 ms
   3  192.168.32.65 (192.168.32.65)  9.984 ms  9.654 ms  9.570 ms
   4  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117)  25.960 ms  21.798 
 ms  24.144 ms
   etc
 
 0.0.0.0 as one of the hops.So, I pulled out LFT to make sure 
 traceroute isn't going nuts.
 
 Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1
 Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
 TTL LFT trace to 207.70.17.213:80/tcp
   1  192.168.1.1 0.9/0.9ms
   2 /9.8/10.3ms
   3  192.168.32.65 9.7/8.3ms
   4  10.255.255.1 9.1/8.4ms
   5  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117) 29.0/20.2ms
 
 Fun, no entry for hop 2, plus there's an extra hop at #4.  Lets use verbose.
 
 Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1 ... (verbosity level 2)
 Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
 SENT TCP  TTL=1 SEQ=648736948 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 SENT TCP  TTL=2 SEQ=648736949 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736948 SRC=192.168.1.1 PTTL=1 PSEQ=648736948
 SENT TCP  TTL=3 SEQ=648736950 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 SENT TCP  TTL=4 SEQ=648736951 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 SENT TCP  TTL=5 SEQ=648736952 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 SENT TCP  TTL=6 SEQ=648736953 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736949 SRC=0.0.0.0 PTTL=2 PSEQ=648736949
 SENT TCP  TTL=7 SEQ=648736954 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
 RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736950 SRC=192.168.32.65 PTTL=3 PSEQ=648736950
 RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736951 SRC=10.255.255.1 PTTL=4 PSEQ=648736951
 RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736953 SRC=4.68.105.30 PTTL=6 PSEQ=648736953
 
 
 Am I going nuts, or is something really messed up somewhere upstream 
 from the cable modem?  To quote someone from IRC who's just as confused, 
 the null route just talked to me.
 
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Re: Odd cableone traceroute with 0.0.0.0 in path

2010-10-28 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 02:55 PM 10/28/2010, Brielle Bruns wrote:
Okay, so this has my head hurting a bit just trying to figure out 
just how this is possible and what kind of equipment would pull this stunt.


misconfig of a p2p addr somewhere ?  perhaps someone used 0.0.0.0/30 
as a p2p addr for kicks.


e.g. I just tried this at home.

on a next hop router,
# ifconfig igb1 0.0.0.0/30 alias


on a node/workstation behind the above router

0(i5)# ifconfig em0 0.0.0.1/30 alias
0(i5)# route add 173.194.32.104 0.0.0.0

0(i5)# telnet -s 10.255.255.27 173.194.32.104 80
Trying 173.194.32.104...
Connected to yyz06s05-in-f104.1e100.net.
Escape character is '^]'.


And looking for the arp who has, it is indeed asking for 0.0.0.0's 
MAC addr for the next hop.


15:07:38.308758 00:15:17:ed:36:e5  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype ARP 
(0x0806), length 60: Request who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 0.0.0.1, length 46
15:07:38.308764 00:30:48:94:88:21  00:15:17:ed:36:e5, ethertype ARP 
(0x0806), length 42: Reply 0.0.0.0 is-at 00:30:48:94:88:21, length 28


---Mike



Tracing from here (cableone cable modem) to the outside world, I end 
up with the following at the beginning of my traceroute.


 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.759 ms  0.803 ms  0.769 ms
 2  0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)  10.462 ms  9.543 ms  8.043 ms
 3  192.168.32.65 (192.168.32.65)  9.984 ms  9.654 ms  9.570 ms
 4  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117)  25.960 
ms  21.798 ms  24.144 ms

  etc

0.0.0.0 as one of the hops.So, I pulled out LFT to make sure 
traceroute isn't going nuts.


Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1
Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
TTL LFT trace to 207.70.17.213:80/tcp
 1  192.168.1.1 0.9/0.9ms
 2 /9.8/10.3ms
 3  192.168.32.65 9.7/8.3ms
 4  10.255.255.1 9.1/8.4ms
 5  te-4-4.car2.seattle1.level3.net (4.53.146.117) 29.0/20.2ms

Fun, no entry for hop 2, plus there's an extra hop at #4.  Lets use verbose.

Layer Four Traceroute (LFT) version 3.1 ... (verbosity level 2)
Using device en1, 192.168.1.101:53
SENT TCP  TTL=1 SEQ=648736948 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=2 SEQ=648736949 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736948 SRC=192.168.1.1 PTTL=1 PSEQ=648736948
SENT TCP  TTL=3 SEQ=648736950 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=4 SEQ=648736951 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=5 SEQ=648736952 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
SENT TCP  TTL=6 SEQ=648736953 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736949 SRC=0.0.0.0 PTTL=2 PSEQ=648736949
SENT TCP  TTL=7 SEQ=648736954 FLAGS=0x2 ( SYN )
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736950 SRC=192.168.32.65 PTTL=3 PSEQ=648736950
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736951 SRC=10.255.255.1 PTTL=4 PSEQ=648736951
RCVD ICMP SEQ=648736953 SRC=4.68.105.30 PTTL=6 PSEQ=648736953


Am I going nuts, or is something really messed up somewhere upstream 
from the cable modem?  To quote someone from IRC who's just as 
confused, the null route just talked to me.


--
Brielle Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org



Mike Tancsa,  tel +1 519 651 3400
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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:08:02 -0700
 From: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com
 
 Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach
 is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be
 interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw

Cute. Silly, but cute. I think I see Tony Hain's hand somewhere in this.

Tony???
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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Owen DeLong

On Oct 28, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:

 Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach
 is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be
 interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw
 
 Zaid
 
 

ROFLMAO... Yeah, it's overstated and ridiculous, but, I especially laughed
at the follow-on video for ignore the benefits of IPv6.

Owen




Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 01:08:02PM -0700, Zaid Ali wrote:
 Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach
 is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be
 interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6.

If you have been trying to get your C-Level folks to understand the
problem for months or years and they won't listen, yet they come
to you after watching this Cisco video then you should go visit
www.monster.com, or www.careerbuilder.com.

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RE: Ethernet performance tests

2010-10-28 Thread Jonathon Exley
How smooth is the Ixchariot data stream? When Chariot was a NetIQ product it 
seemed to generate regular spikes as the algorithm tried to correct the total 
throughput over a time interval.
It's not a problem for slow data rates but when testing near the limit of a 
circuit's capacity the spikes could sometimes overflow the buffers of Ethernet 
media converters and give false results.

Jonathon 

-Original Message-
From: Stefano Gridelli [mailto:sgride...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 1:08 a.m.
To: Diogo Montagner; Tim Jackson; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Ethernet performance tests

Hi Diogo

We use ixchariot endpoints installed on linux laptops to test sites for voice 
readiness. Ixchariot calculates for you the MOS score and, depending from the 
NIC, can also push close to 1 Gig of traffic. For larger bandwidth tests (I 
believe 6-7 Gig) and fast re-route testing (ms failover) we use ixia hardware.

Ciao


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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Beavis
lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:
 Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach
 is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be
 interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw

 Zaid







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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Zaid Ali

On 10/28/10 2:11 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:

 If you have been trying to get your C-Level folks to understand the
 problem for months or years and they won't listen, yet they come
 to you after watching this Cisco video then you should go visit
 www.monster.com, or www.careerbuilder.com.

I don't have this problem thankfully but I know many do and it is probably
the major reason why v6 adoption is slow. Many networks needs money invested
to upgrade for v6 readiness. The message is do it now before the costs
dramatically increase. The problem with C-level folks is not they don't want
to do it but there is no financial incentive for them to do it, if there is
no direct benefit to drive revenue then why put the money? The barrier for
v6 is not technical it is purely financial, some understand the economics
and some don't. Finance people usually think that the longer you can put off
expenses the better it looks for your balance sheet. This is really the crux
of the problem.

Zaid 





Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Zaid Ali

On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote:

 lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks.

Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun
hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on
TV and calm the hysteria.

Zaid 





RE: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Tony Hain
No idea where this came from, and no I didn't have any part in it. If I had,
the rental rates on addresses would have been much more in the range of
extortion... ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:ober...@es.net]
 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:59 PM
 To: Zaid Ali
 Cc: NANOG list
 Subject: Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
 
  Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:08:02 -0700
  From: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com
 
  Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the
 approach
  is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would
 be
  interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout
 IPv6.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw
 
 Cute. Silly, but cute. I think I see Tony Hain's hand somewhere in
 this.
 
 Tony???
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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 10/28/10 2:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:
 
 On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks.
 
 Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun
 hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
 internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on
 TV and calm the hysteria.

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo

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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Jack Bates

On 10/28/2010 4:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:

Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun
hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on
TV and calm the hysteria.



Why would someone with clue want to calm the hysteria? I've had 
hysterical moments dealing with v6 transitions. Come to and end? Nah. Be 
a really rough ride? Unless things change, probably.



Jack



Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Beavis
haha... definitely like this!!! :D

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jay Hennigan j...@west.net wrote:
 On 10/28/10 2:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:

 On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote:

 lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech 
 folks.

 Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun
 hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
 internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on
 TV and calm the hysteria.

 Like this?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo

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Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Daniel Seagraves

On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Jack Bates wrote:

 On 10/28/2010 4:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:
 Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun
 hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
 internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on
 TV and calm the hysteria.
 
 
 Why would someone with clue want to calm the hysteria? I've had hysterical 
 moments dealing with v6 transitions. Come to and end? Nah. Be a really rough 
 ride? Unless things change, probably.

Wait, if there's no transition to ipv6, the internet will end? And all our 
piracy and information control problems will end with it?
That's just grand! Quick, pass a law against ipv6 adoption! Mandatory death 
penalty! Why didn't anyone think of this sooner? 

(NOW who says you can't put the genie back in the bottle? Stupid eggheads! :)




Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Zaid Ali

On 10/28/10 4:06 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:

 
 
 --- z...@zaidali.com wrote:
 Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
 internet is going to come to an end
 -
 
 
 http://www.argee.net/chickenlittleagenda/CLA%2072.jpg
 
 scott


We have all seen the trend set by the Cyberwar news reports.

Zaid





Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video

2010-10-28 Thread Randy Bush
 Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the
 internet is going to come to an end 

press frenzy in the '93 '94 era was what forced the ipv6 design, to
solve the problem.  and it did, the press shut up.  problem is it did
not solve the needed technical problems.  but that is only pain for us,
who cares?

randy



Re: Ethernet performance tests

2010-10-28 Thread Stefano Gridelli
I tried the ultra high throughput script just for fun to see how much I
could push ... I got a solid 920 mbps stream for the entire time I run the
test (circa 30-60 seconds) with not spikes. The hardware in that case were
two IBM hs-20 blades with broadcom chipsets.

I said for fun because if we use ixchariot for throughput tests usually is
just for small T1 sites (max 3xT1) so I have never seen the issue you
mentioned. Usually on the same T1, we fill the data VLAN with traffic and
then we run x voice pairs on the voice vlan to validate QoS (MOS score).

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Jonathon Exley jonathon.ex...@kordia.co.nz
 wrote:

 How smooth is the Ixchariot data stream? When Chariot was a NetIQ product
 it seemed to generate regular spikes as the algorithm tried to correct the
 total throughput over a time interval.
 It's not a problem for slow data rates but when testing near the limit of a
 circuit's capacity the spikes could sometimes overflow the buffers of
 Ethernet media converters and give false results.

 Jonathon

 -Original Message-
 From: Stefano Gridelli [mailto:sgride...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 1:08 a.m.
 To: Diogo Montagner; Tim Jackson; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Ethernet performance tests

 Hi Diogo

 We use ixchariot endpoints installed on linux laptops to test sites for
 voice readiness. Ixchariot calculates for you the MOS score and, depending
 from the NIC, can also push close to 1 Gig of traffic. For larger bandwidth
 tests (I believe 6-7 Gig) and fast re-route testing (ms failover) we use
 ixia hardware.

 Ciao


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