Re: How is IPv6 deployment going in the APNIC region?

2011-04-13 Thread Tore Anderson
* Graham Beneke

> Only 0.3 of a /8 left[1] before the rationing policy kicks in.

Hi,

Actually, they're already empty. Chinanet Fujian Province Network
allocated 498432 addresses today, spread out over 1102(!) individual
prefixes in the range /21-/24.

Unless any resources has been returned to the free pool today, there's
nothing left in the APNIC pool outside of the 103/8 block, which is the
one set aside for the final /8 policy.

Best regards,
-- 
Tore Anderson
Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com
Tel: +47 21 54 41 27



How is IPv6 deployment going in the APNIC region?

2011-04-13 Thread Graham Beneke

Only 0.3 of a /8 left[1] before the rationing policy kicks in.

I hope everyone is ready :-)

[1] http://www.apnic.net/community/ipv4-exhaustion/graphical-information

--
Graham Beneke



Looking for Postmaster contact for js.pentagon.mil

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Keymer
We have a client that we resent moved to some new address space (We have
had the the space for a couple of years now) However it looks like the
mail server for js.pentagon.mil are droping all packet to them. :(

If anyone had some leads on a way to contact them. Please contact me
off-list.

We did try the number in the whois for the IP. The phone rang and rang. :(

Thank you all.

Sincerely,

Mark Keymer



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Chad Dailey
Sometimes with alternate propulsion:

http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc188&image=ab44c_incroyable.jpg

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Lynda  wrote:

> On 4/13/2011 12:44 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
>>> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
>>>
>>
>> and pigs fly
>>
>
> Well, sometimes they do.
>
> http://wardsci.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_IG0035229
>
> [Flying Pig: Unforgettable Fun with Physics]
>
> --
> "The person becomes vulnerable to all manner of fads, such as
> astrology, superstitions, economics, and tarot-card reading."
>
>   The Black Swan, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
>
>


Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 4/13/11 4:50 PM, Leigh Porter wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2011, at 21:45, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
 and pigs fly
>>> Well, sometimes they do.
>> There underlying problem here is flying sheep:
>>
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw2DdoskPY
>>
>> Note the accurate summarization of the entire issue.
>>
> Yes that's it. 172/8 is nesting. Perhaps if 172/8 and 168/8 get together and 
> mate they will produce lots of little /16s and 
>

We won't have to implement IPv6  What a MASSIVE time savings.  VACATION
HERE I COME!



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Leigh Porter

On 13 Apr 2011, at 21:45, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

>>> and pigs fly
>> Well, sometimes they do.
> 
> There underlying problem here is flying sheep:
> 
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw2DdoskPY
> 
> Note the accurate summarization of the entire issue.
> 

Yes that's it. 172/8 is nesting. Perhaps if 172/8 and 168/8 get together and 
mate they will produce lots of little /16s and 


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Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg

and pigs fly

Well, sometimes they do.


There underlying problem here is flying sheep:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw2DdoskPY

Note the accurate summarization of the entire issue.



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Ryan Malayter


On Apr 13, 2:44 pm, Randy Bush  wrote:
> > sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
> > they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
>
> and pigs fly

And to think, Google manages to get by with the equivalents of a few /
16 or smaller.




Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Lynda

On 4/13/2011 12:44 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,


and pigs fly


Well, sometimes they do.

http://wardsci.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_IG0035229

[Flying Pig: Unforgettable Fun with Physics]

--
"The person becomes vulnerable to all manner of fads, such as
astrology, superstitions, economics, and tarot-card reading."

   The Black Swan, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 4/13/11 6:11 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
> which is obviously bogus. They do have a 168.246.0.0/16
> however.
> 
> Any tool to look the other two up quickly, without having to
> iterate through the entire second octet? Thanks!
> 

23173jjaeggli:~ jjaeggli$ ssh rvi...@route-views.routeviews.org

route-views> show bgp ipv4 unicast 147.0.0.0/8 longer-prefixes

...

route-views>show bgp ipv4 unicast  168.246.0.0/16 longer-prefixes

route-views>



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg

sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,


Bugger.  Now I have to renumber out of my 172.16/12 subnets :-(



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:44:19 +0900, Randy Bush said:
> > sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
> > they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
> 
> and pigs fly

Only if they're RFC1925 compliant. :)



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Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Barton

On 04/13/2011 12:44, Randy Bush wrote:

sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,


and pigs fly


/me pops open the kevlar umbrella

(thanks for the warning!)

--

Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much.
-- OK Go

Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS.
Yours for the right price.  :)  http://SupersetSolutions.com/




Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Leigh Porter

On 13 Apr 2011, at 20:44, Randy Bush wrote:

>> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
>> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
> 
> and pigs fly
> 

You can make almost anything fly if you put enough oomph behind it..

--
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Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Don . DuQuette
Ill throw in 10.0.0.0 /8 for just the lint, but it better be really good 
lint



From:   Paul Graydon 
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date:   04/13/2011 03:54 PM
Subject:Re: Syngenta space



On 04/13/2011 09:48 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Randy Bush  wrote:
>>> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
>>> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
>> and pigs fly
> indeed, an impressive claim, how much for it all?
>
*checks pockets*

$5 and some lint?




Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Graydon

On 04/13/2011 09:48 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Randy Bush  wrote:

sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,

and pigs fly

indeed, an impressive claim, how much for it all?


*checks pockets*

$5 and some lint?



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Randy Bush
>>> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
>>> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
>> and pigs fly
> indeed, an impressive claim, how much for it all?

i am particularly impressed by the annexation of some of the rfc1918
space.

randy



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Randy Bush  wrote:
>> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
>> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
>
> and pigs fly

indeed, an impressive claim, how much for it all?



Re: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Randy Bush
> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,

and pigs fly



Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-13 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Luigi Iannone
 wrote:
> This is not true. There are several works out there showing that the FIB will 
> not grow as you are saying.

Having taken some time to discuss this off-list with Luigi.  I'd
already read the paper he had in mind, which does not address DoS or
prefix growth as the number of multi-homed sites, or single-homed
sites with "PI blocks," increases.

In effect, that paper and other works on this subject fail to consider
what happens when one of LISP's goals actually becomes true: more
wide-spread adoption of its technology to enable branch offices and
other end-users to become multi-homed, or avoid renumbering.

Plain and simple, it does not scale up any better than injecting more
routes into the DFZ, unless you 1) accept macro-flow-based routing; or
2) scale up the size of your FIB along with the much larger number of
prefixes which would be introduced by lowering the barrier-to-entry
for multi-homing and provider-independent addressing.

However, LISP does have non-Internet applications which are
interesting.  You can potentially have multi-homed connectivity
between your own branch offices, using one or more public Internet
connections at each branch, and your own private mapping servers which
know the state of reachability from one branch to the others.  In
effect, it can become "poor man's L3VPN."

Beyond non-Internet applications such as this, I think LISP is useful
largely as a case study for what happens when a bunch of engineers get
together and "solve" some problems they do not understand -- DFZ
size/growth being chief among them.

Like others, I still leave room for the possibility that I am wrong about this.

-- 
Jeff S Wheeler 
Sr Network Operator  /  Innovative Network Concepts



historical pricing data

2011-04-13 Thread Chris McDonald
This may be the wrong place to ask but maybe one of you could point me in a
direction.

I'm looking for [ideally] historical market pricing for mpls/ipl between as
many as possible city pairs [with a focus toward Asia] as well as ip maybe 5
year back.

Thanks,
Chris


SDH 1+1 protected circuit and OSPF minimal setup on a single Juniper platform.

2011-04-13 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Hi,

I have some doubts about the minimal configuration to handle an SDH 1+1
protected circuit with OSPF on a single Juniper router platform (one
interface as the Working Circuit and another interface as the Protect
Circuit).

Reading the JunOS documentation, for instance the 9.4 JunOS version:

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos94/swconfig-network-interfaces/interfaces-configuring-sonet-sdh-physical-interface-properties.html#id-12712165

and using the various configuration snippet I tried to link together
various pieces of configuration and the result is below:

so-0/2/0 {
framing {
sdh;
}
sonet-options {
aps {
 working-circuit bayward;
 authentication-key blarney;
}
}
unit 0 {
   family inet {
   address 10.100.100.1/24;
   }
}
}


so-1/3/0 {
framing {
sdh;
}
sonet-options {
aps {
 protect-circuit bayward;
 authentication-key blarney;
}
}
unit 0 {
   family inet {
   address 10.100.200.1/24;
   }
}
}


lab@r1# show protocols ospf
area 0.0.0.0 {
  interface so-0/2/0.0;
  interface so-1/3/0.0;
  }
}

If I'm not wrong the APS/MSP signaling protocol router implementation
should set one of the two sonet interfaces as Up and the other as Down,
so the OSPF should install in routing table only the IP network related
to the Up interface.
Am I wrong?
Do you think I forgot some configuration pieces?


Thanks and regards,
Lorenzo



RE: Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
> -Original Message-
> From: Eugen Leitl [mailto:eu...@leitl.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:11 AM
> To: NANOG list
> Subject: Syngenta space
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
> they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
> which is obviously bogus. They do have a 168.246.0.0/16
> however.
> 
> Any tool to look the other two up quickly, without having to
> iterate through the entire second octet? Thanks!
> 
I just scraped the BGP output from one of my border routers and came up with 
discrete more specific routes and AS's in all three blocks.  Given that Sygenta 
doesn't appear to have an AS, we can assume they are not amongst them.

Regards,

Mike



Re: Barracuda Networks is at it again: Any Suggestions as to an Alternative?

2011-04-13 Thread AP NANOG

I would look into Asatro, they have a solid product and good support.

If you want a contact person let me know and I will email you directly.

On 4/9/11 11:55 AM, pr...@cnsny.net wrote:

Andrew,
We use and offer Postini - a front end service.  Postini is a anti virus and 
spam filter, and can spool mail if your circuits are  down.  Postini is a 
Google company and works like a charm.  If you need more information please 
contact me offline pr...@cnsny.net

Paul

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

- Reply message -
From: "Andrew Kirch"
Date: Sat, Apr 9, 2011 10:39 am
Subject: Barracuda Networks is at it again: Any Suggestions as to   an  
Alternative?
To: "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)",

John,

My suggestion isn't _QUITE_ an appliance, but it works very well and
I've been exceptionally happy with it.  It's a distribution of linux
controlled via a web interface that does far more than just mail
filtering (at which it is both flexible and adept).  Take a look at
http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/overview.html.  The hardware
requirements shouldn't be too insane, and the rules
updates/subscriptions for the various services are all month to month,
and not a bucket of insane.

Andrew


On 4/8/2011 11:51 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:

OK, its been a year since my Barracuda subscription expired. The unit
still stops some spam. I figured that I would go and see what they
would do if I tried to renew my subscription EXACTLY one year after it
expired. Would their renewal website say "Oh, you are at your
anniversary date", and renew me for a year?

No such luck: They want me to PAY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR for which I did
NOT receive service and then for the current (upcoming year). Sorry -
I don't allow myself to be ripped off like that. Sorry Barracuda - you
get no money from me and I'll tell everyone I know about this policy
of yours.

I posted an article about this unscrupulous practice on my blog last
year at http://www.john-palmer.net/wordpress/?p=46

My question is - does anyone have any suggestions for another e-mail
appliance like the Barracuda Spam Firewall that doesn't try to charge
their customers for time not used. I should be able to shut off the
unit for a year or whatever and simply renew from the point that I
re-activate the unit instead of having to pay for back-years that I
didn't use.

Thanks












Syngenta space

2011-04-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
Hi,

sorry for the noise, but my contact at Syngenta says
they have 147.0.0.0/8 168.0.0.0/8 and 172.0.0.0/8,
which is obviously bogus. They do have a 168.246.0.0/16
however.

Any tool to look the other two up quickly, without having to
iterate through the entire second octet? Thanks!

-- 
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