Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Tammy A. Wisdom
Clear is an absolutely horrible ISP. It is quite common for it to go in and out and their modems overheat. --Tammy - Original Message - > From: "Ryan Finnesey" > To: "Kevin Day" , "chris" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:52:18 PM > Subject: RE: Verizon Busi

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Ryan Finnesey
The two problems I have with Clear is that it does not work well indoors (major problem for air ports) and that they will not route my IP block over there network. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:11 PM To:

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > backup. I've been wondering this as well. My home backups are somewhat large and not yet offsite due to their size. (~4.7TB). This is due to both purchased digital media stora

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread chris
I have used 3G in the past as a backup for some sites and I was pretty impressed with the performance and the ease of configuring it in ios chris On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > We are looking to use the Cisco 3G/4G card > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11540/inde

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > [[[ Note: If I could find cheap enough switches with an optical interface I > would be switching to optical at this point! ]]] There are some media converters out there that take a SFP/GLC <-> RJ45 for $20-25, e.g.: http://www.amazon.com/gp/se

Re: Home computer rooms

2011-08-13 Thread Michael Loftis
I've got a Danby portable type dual hose unit which works very well for my office. The single hose units are really no good for getting a room cool as they continually pull in outside air. It's pretty quiet, a lot quieter than the cheaper no-name unit it replaced. 12000BTU - it does really need

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 8/13/2011 01:59, Chaim Rieger wrote: > On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: >> Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to >> all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno >> about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless giv

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Ryan Finnesey
We are looking to use the Cisco 3G/4G card http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11540/index.html We can pick them up for about $250 for the 3G and $350 for the 4G. From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:59 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Matt Addison
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 21:11, Vinny Abello wrote: > One of my favorite features in IS-IS is the ability to set the overload > bit during maintenance. The effect is the router on which you set it > isn't seen by any other devices in the topology as a transit path, but > you can still reach the rou

Re: is First Media Service Limited a bulletproof hosting network?

2011-08-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Report = either that provider or its upstream, would be a good idea. As for discussing abuse, there's no indication of just what abuse you're seeing from that /24 when you just paste a whois record. --srs On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Has below network been associated

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Kevin Day
On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote: > What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone > and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone > hardware? > > chris Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile have all dropped their unlimited plans. If you're

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Vinny Abello
On 8/11/2011 10:19 AM, Jason Duerstock wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, CJ wrote: > >> Hey all, >> Is there any reason to run IS-IS over OSPF in the SP core? Currently, we >> are running IS-IS but we are redesigning our core and now would be a good >> time to switch. I would like to swit

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 10:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you >> list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF? > > at&t > > is-is in ntt, sprint, verizon, ... > > randy > AT&T's backbone is the old SBC backbone? Finding OSPF here do

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread chris
What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone hardware? chris On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW network. Both 3G a

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW network. Both 3G and 4G. The issue we have is that they have a 5GB cap. We have tested both the 3G and 4G HWIC for cisco and have been very happy with the hardware. Cheers Ryan From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturd

Re: Home computer rooms

2011-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Charles N Wyble said: > Related to my thread about home data centers, what are folks using to > store compute gear in? > > Mine sits in two racks in my second bedroom. Cooled by ambient AC. I have an old pdp-8 rack (I didn't get the actual computer, just the rack, but it does s

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Steven Bellovin" > Subject: Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? > > The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE, > > unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective; > > but with NO FAN. > > I can't help

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Coy Hile" > > From: Alex Rubenstein > > The weakness will be only one provider of connectivity. > > Damn, and people claim I'm nuts! > > You know, you could go whole hog and multihome. This thread do give "multihome" a whole new meaning, don't it? Cheer

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-13 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
You are assuming (as many, many people do) that public addresses equal no firewall, and that IPv6 CPEs will have no stateful firewalling. The thing is, just as they have a stateful firewall now for IPv4 they will have one for IPv6 as well. The fact that your addressing is public (or let's say, rou

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > Well, I would like to convert the whole outside mess to fiber to eliminate > this problem, and the per-foot price of 6 or 12 strand single mode cables is > pretty reasonable nowadays...  But, I'm not very current on the most > economical method

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On > the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) > with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm In my basement: I use a Sparcserver 690mp cabinet from 1992.

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Arthur Clark
Adtran Netvanta 2054 FW Sperry Univac (1979, ~8U rackmount) http://oldcomputers.net/AIM-65.html http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html http://www.wap.org/a3/default.html On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: > On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > >> So what's in NA

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread chris
I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot from my phone and it worked surprisingly well. Of course latency can be a bit jumpy but my speeds overall were better than the neighbors comcast :) I als

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-13 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to roll out instead of DS1s. But looks like we will go down the TDM route. Cheers Ryan From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Charl

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Jeff Kell
On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: So what's in NANOGers home networks/compute centers? :) Surprisingly minimalistic - a Linksys cablemodem and a Belkin Play wireless router, both from Best Buy, a Dell Latitude laptop from work, and a PS/3. (I used to have more gear, but it ca

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are > > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It wa

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: > On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that > are > > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could > afford > > when I put it in). We

is First Media Service Limited a bulletproof hosting network?

2011-08-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
Has below network been associated with abuse in your experience? What is the proper listserv to report and discuss known sources of network and telco abuse? Thanks! inetnum:91.223.119.0 - 91.223.119.255 netname:PI-UK-FMSLTD descr: First Media Service Limited country:

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are > copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford > when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from > lightning. (I've

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jake Khuon
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 09:13 -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best > of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but > I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The > idea of letting them sit for

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:28:57PM -0500 Quoting Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com): > Hey all, > > I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? I'm trying not to have anything. Mail, AFS fileserver,

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-08-13 16:53 , John Levine wrote: >> Backups remain a tricky problem to get right. > > Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but > are irritatingly flaky. > > I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look > at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxe

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread John Levine
> Backups remain a tricky problem to get right. Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but are irritatingly flaky. I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxes, they seem to be about a generation behind the disks

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread David Ramsey
When my parents finally got broadband years ago and I wired their house, I loaded Linux on an old x86 PC and stashed it in a corner of their garage. rsync over an ssh tunnel runs nightly from a Linux server in my house (about 90 miles away) to theirs. I don't sync everything, but it gives me comf

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best > of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but > I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The > idea of letting them sit for awhile and praying they spin up later > bothers me

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Greco
> On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 14:12 +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > > backup. > > Very good point. > > For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a > portable external drive. Online and nearline home storage i

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Greco
> On 08/12/2011 09:17 PM, Joe Greco wrote: > >> What nobody wired their abode with fiber ? > >> > >> Am i the only one here > > I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack > > What's in the telco rack? This is in your house? What's on it? Demarc and lightning suppressors for T1, 2xISDN BRI, DSL, c

Re: Home computer rooms

2011-08-13 Thread David Swafford
I'm borrowing a room at mom's place for this presently :-D, as the 1 bedroom apartment was a bit too small! It has 2 racks -- a 2post and a full server cabinent. The racks are physically on separate sides of the room, so I've got a custom cable tray running along the walls, that's about a foot be

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2011-08-13 22:44 +1000), Jeffrey S. Young wrote: > That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you list > the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF? AT&T, L3? Anyhow I fully agree with the sentiment that in eu/us markets most SP rock ISIS. At one time when I was shopping

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
> That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you > list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF? at&t is-is in ntt, sprint, verizon, ... randy

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF? jy On 12/08/2011, at 10:40 PM, James Jones wrote: > I would not say ISIS is the prefered protocol. Most service providers I have > worked with use OSPF. Most networks outside of

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Eric Krichbaum
-Original Message- >Anyone got experience with XBMC and similar linux media centre tools running >on tablet or netbook class hardware? I like the idea of using a couple of el >cheapo Android tablets with decent external speakers as music/video/TV/phone >terminals, getting content from

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 43, Issue 53

2011-08-13 Thread Dorn Hetzel
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from lightning. (I've taken to using an intermediate "throwaway" 5-port switch

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Robert Boyle
At 07:28 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote: I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm I have a 60KVA Kohler diesel genset (with DM550 controller and electronic governor) wi

Re: personal backup

2011-08-13 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 13/08/2011, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal > backup. > > my life is on a 13" macbook air, all data, mail back decades (i do not > save all mail), etc. the whole drive is encrypted, my main reason for > moving to lion. > >

RE: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-13 Thread Alexander Harrowell
Eric Krichbaum wrote: >I have a 12 pack of single mode run between wiring closets upstairs and >downstairs. Only one server running feeding media to my xbmc's >everywhere >but quite a bit on gig. Nothing overly noisy unless you have your head >in >the closets. > >Eric > Anyone got experience w