Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread andrew.wallace
Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
perhaps being sabotage.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/


Andrew




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And continues:
“RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics
 
Frank
 
From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: outa...@outages.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)
 
RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10
 
Andrew
 



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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core 
switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but 
I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know 
how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup 
solution failed? I'm not buying it either.


-Hammer-

I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer



On 10/12/2011 09:47 AM, andrew.wallace wrote:

Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
perhaps being sabotage.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/


Andrew




From: Frank Bulkfrnk...@iname.com
To: outa...@outages.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)


And continues:
“RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics
  
Frank
  
From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: outa...@outages.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)
  
RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues
  
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10
  
Andrew
  




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Subject: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Mulholland
Never put down to malice which can be more easily explained by stupidity..
or in this case failure.

RIM explained the problem earlier..

The messaging and browsing delays being experienced by BlackBerry users in
Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, Brazil, Chile and Argentina were
caused by a core switch failure within RIM's infrastructure. Although the
system is designed to failover to a back-up switch, the failover did not
function as previously tested. As a result, a large backlog of data was
generated and we are now working to clear that backlog and restore normal
service as quickly as possible. We apologise for any inconvenience and we
will continue to keep you informed.


This appears to have been a result of a change on monday

The problems began at about 11am on Monday. The Guardian understands that
RIM was attempting a software upgrade on its database but suffered
corruption problems, and that attempts to switch back to an older version
led to a collapse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/12/blackberry-outage-executive-apologies?newsfeed=true

thanks

andrew

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM, andrew.wallace 
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at
 this perhaps being sabotage.


 http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/


 Andrew



 
 From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com
 To: outa...@outages.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
 affected (not N.A.)


 And continues:
 “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
 http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics

 Frank

 From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
 To: frnk...@iname.com
 Cc: outa...@outages.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt
 affected (not N.A.)

 RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10

 Andrew


 

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RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Maybe they use the same security solutions as Playstation Network does... that 
would explain a lot suddenly.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:47 AM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)

Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
perhaps being sabotage.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/


Andrew




From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com
To: outa...@outages.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)


And continues:
“RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics
 
Frank
 
From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: outa...@outages.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)
 
RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10
 
Andrew
 



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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Ben Albee
Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having
issues about 8am this morning. 



Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 10/12/11 07:47 , andrew.wallace wrote:
 Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
 perhaps being sabotage.
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/

North American outages of the blackberry platform (particularly related
to upgrades gone wrong) were not uncommon.

Think for example sept 10, dec 18 and dec 22 2009.

 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
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 And continues:
 “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
 http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics
  
 Frank
  
 From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com] 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
 To: frnk...@iname.com
 Cc: outa...@outages.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
 affected (not N.A.)
  
 RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues
  
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10
  
 Andrew
  
 
 
 
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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said:
 Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
 perhaps being sabotage.

It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured router.

Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods:

1) Insufficiently caffienated network engineer - this *NEVER* happens in real
life, it's a total Bruce Schneier caliber movie-plot scenario.

2) Somebody sabotaging a RIM router.  This is more likely, because there's just
*bazillions* of people out there that stand to benefit from a RIM outage (and
in fact profit more from an outage than from being able to watch traffic as it
goes by).  It's just a question of which one of those bazillions did it *this*
time.

Andrew, you *really* need to learn what the actual failure modes and
root causes in real-life production networks are, and draw conclusions from
reality, not whatever MI-7 inspired dream world the claim of sabotage
came from.



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2011.10.12 NANOG53 weds morning session notes

2011-10-12 Thread Matthew Petach
Wow.  As always, Geoff Huston really knows
how to deliver a message in a way that just
reaches right out and grabs you; awesome, awesome
keynote talk, that's going to be another one for
the archives.  ^_^

Notes from this morning's session have been
posted to
http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2011.10.12-nanog53-morning-session.txt

Thanks again to all the speakers for a great
conference--see you all in San Diego!!

Matt



Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
 What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core 
 switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but 
 I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know 
 how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup 
 solution failed? I'm not buying it either.

Yeah, and that extra comma in the one config file that didn't make a difference
when you tested the failover in the lab *never* makes a difference when it hits
in the production network, right?  Or they changed the config of the primary and
it didn't get propogated just right to the backup, or they had mismatched 
firmware
levels on blades in the blades on the primary and backup switches, so traffic 
that
didn't tickle a bug on the primary blades caused the blade to crash on the 
backup,
or...

Anybody on this list who's been around long enough probably has enough We
should have had N+2 because the N+1'th device failed too stories to drain
*several* pitchers of beer at a good pub... I've even had one case where my
butt got *saved* from a ohnosecond-class whoops because the N+1'th device *was*
crashed (stomped a config file, it replicated, was able to salvage a copy from
a device that didn't replicate because it was down at the time).



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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Charles Mills
+1
On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
  What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core
  switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
  I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know
  how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup
  solution failed? I'm not buying it either.

 Yeah, and that extra comma in the one config file that didn't make a
 difference
 when you tested the failover in the lab *never* makes a difference when it
 hits
 in the production network, right?  Or they changed the config of the
 primary and
 it didn't get propogated just right to the backup, or they had mismatched
 firmware
 levels on blades in the blades on the primary and backup switches, so
 traffic that
 didn't tickle a bug on the primary blades caused the blade to crash on the
 backup,
 or...

 Anybody on this list who's been around long enough probably has enough We
 should have had N+2 because the N+1'th device failed too stories to drain
 *several* pitchers of beer at a good pub... I've even had one case where my
 butt got *saved* from a ohnosecond-class whoops because the N+1'th device
 *was*
 crashed (stomped a config file, it replicated, was able to salvage a copy
 from
 a device that didn't replicate because it was down at the time).




Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Tayeb Meftah
Idiotberry


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 12 oct. 2011 à 17:55, Charles Mills w3y...@gmail.com a écrit :

 +1
 On Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
 What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core
 switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
 I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know
 how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup
 solution failed? I'm not buying it either.

 Yeah, and that extra comma in the one config file that didn't make a
 difference
 when you tested the failover in the lab *never* makes a difference when it
 hits
 in the production network, right?  Or they changed the config of the
 primary and
 it didn't get propogated just right to the backup, or they had mismatched
 firmware
 levels on blades in the blades on the primary and backup switches, so
 traffic that
 didn't tickle a bug on the primary blades caused the blade to crash on the
 backup,
 or...

 Anybody on this list who's been around long enough probably has enough We
 should have had N+2 because the N+1'th device failed too stories to drain
 *several* pitchers of beer at a good pub... I've even had one case where my
 butt got *saved* from a ohnosecond-class whoops because the N+1'th device
 *was*
 crashed (stomped a config file, it replicated, was able to salvage a copy
 from
 a device that didn't replicate because it was down at the time).





Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Campbell
I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption 
or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an 
second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could 
of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not then any business 
that relies on them needs to be shouting from the rooftops to get RIM to fix it.

Chris.


On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:49, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
 What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core 
 switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but 
 I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know 
 how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup 
 solution failed? I'm not buying it either.
 
 Yeah, and that extra comma in the one config file that didn't make a 
 difference
 when you tested the failover in the lab *never* makes a difference when it 
 hits
 in the production network, right?  Or they changed the config of the primary 
 and
 it didn't get propogated just right to the backup, or they had mismatched 
 firmware
 levels on blades in the blades on the primary and backup switches, so traffic 
 that
 didn't tickle a bug on the primary blades caused the blade to crash on the 
 backup,
 or...
 
 Anybody on this list who's been around long enough probably has enough We
 should have had N+2 because the N+1'th device failed too stories to drain
 *several* pitchers of beer at a good pub... I've even had one case where my
 butt got *saved* from a ohnosecond-class whoops because the N+1'th device 
 *was*
 crashed (stomped a config file, it replicated, was able to salvage a copy from
 a device that didn't replicate because it was down at the time).
 




Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware 
failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need for 
N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a 
bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the 
hardware is perfect. It's just that I haven't personally seen a full 
blown failure like that without human help.


Closest example would be an update that wasn't properly vetted in 
dev/test before migrating to prod. I've seen a few of those that I guess 
you could blame on the system. Even though the humans could have tested 
better


-Hammer-

I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer



On 10/12/2011 10:58 AM, Chris Campbell wrote:

I think it raises serious questions about RIM's DR strategy if a DB corruption 
or switch failure or whatever can cause this much outage. 'Surely' RIM have an 
second site that is independent of the primary (within reason) that they could 
of flipped to when they realised the DB was borked. If not then any business 
that relies on them needs to be shouting from the rooftops to get RIM to fix it.

Chris.


On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:49, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

   

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
 

What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core
switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know
how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup
solution failed? I'm not buying it either.
   

Yeah, and that extra comma in the one config file that didn't make a difference
when you tested the failover in the lab *never* makes a difference when it hits
in the production network, right?  Or they changed the config of the primary and
it didn't get propogated just right to the backup, or they had mismatched 
firmware
levels on blades in the blades on the primary and backup switches, so traffic 
that
didn't tickle a bug on the primary blades caused the blade to crash on the 
backup,
or...

Anybody on this list who's been around long enough probably has enough We
should have had N+2 because the N+1'th device failed too stories to drain
*several* pitchers of beer at a good pub... I've even had one case where my
butt got *saved* from a ohnosecond-class whoops because the N+1'th device *was*
crashed (stomped a config file, it replicated, was able to salvage a copy from
a device that didn't replicate because it was down at the time).

 


   


RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter


 -Original Message-
 From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
 Egypt affected (not N.A.)
 
 I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware
 failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need
 for
 N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a
 bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the
 hardware is perfect. It's just that I haven't personally seen a full
 blown failure like that without human help.

You have not seen VIP2-40s and CEF in action ;-)

--
Leigh Porter


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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Gatti
I have and totally get the point ...

--
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On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
 Egypt affected (not N.A.)
 
 I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware
 failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need
 for
 N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a
 bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the
 hardware is perfect. It's just that I haven't personally seen a full
 blown failure like that without human help.
 
 You have not seen VIP2-40s and CEF in action ;-)
 
 --
 Leigh Porter
 
 
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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr.
Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located
in Atlanta.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ben Albee bal...@orscheln.com wrote:
 Our blackberry service with Us Cellular in Missouri started having
 issues about 8am this morning.





RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Brandt, Ralph
They are out there scrambling, trying to figure out where the truck that hit 
them came from.  The PIO has been told to make up a story.

Ralph Brandt
Communications Engineer
HP Enterprise Services
Telephone +1 717.506.0802
FAX +1 717.506.4358
Email ralph.bra...@pateam.com
5095 Ritter Rd
Mechanicsburg PA 17055


-Original Message-
From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:52 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
affected (not N.A.)

What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a core 
switch. I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but 
I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know 
how to factor N+1 just for these types of days. And then the backup 
solution failed? I'm not buying it either.

-Hammer-

I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer



On 10/12/2011 09:47 AM, andrew.wallace wrote:
 Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this 
 perhaps being sabotage.

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20119163-266/blackberry-service-issues-spread-to-u.s-and-canada/


 Andrew



 
 From: Frank Bulkfrnk...@iname.com
 To: outa...@outages.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
 affected (not N.A.)


 And continues:
 “RIM'S SERVICE OUTAGE CONTINUES INTO DAY 2”
 http://www.channelstv.com/global/news_details.php?nid=29652cat=Politics
   
 Frank
   
 From:andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:52 PM
 To: frnk...@iname.com
 Cc: outa...@outages.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
 affected (not N.A.)
   
 RIM shares down as BlackBerry outage continues
   
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rim-shares-down-as-blackberry-outage-continues-2011-10-10
   
 Andrew
   

 

 From:Frank Bulkfrnk...@iname.com
 To: outa...@outages.org
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:47 PM
 Subject: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt 
 affected (not N.A.)

 http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/3/12/23792/Business/Economy/Blackber
 ry-services-down-worldwide,-Egypt-affected.aspx

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Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Maybe we should just allow this to go on until all IPv4 space is so
polluted that no-one wants to use it anymore :-)

Bad Reputation as an IPv6 Transition Driver

Nice title for a PPT deck...

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Tore Anderson
tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote:
 * Martin Millnert

 RIPE's LIR IPv4 listing service has 1x /20 listed, *right now*.

 I wonder if that one was listed by mistake. The prefix in question,
 128.0.16.0/20, was assigned to NetWave Ltd. by the NCC last Tuesday. If
 it isn't a mistake, I wonder how they justified obtaining the prefix in
 the first place.

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RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter


 -Original Message-
 From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com]
 Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
 
 Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located
 in Atlanta.
 

Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)

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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread steve pirk [egrep]
Found this posting:

 Blackberry down. Research in Motion (RIM) sent the following e-mail to all
 clients:
 To: All Blackberry Clients

 Please be advised that Research in Motion (RIM) is experiencing world-wide
 connectivity issues affecting email flow to and from all Blackberries.
 RIM has not provided an expected time to resolution as of yet.
 Once we receive notice that the issue is resolved, we will forward that
 information to you.

 Thank you,
 Corporate Information Systems/Mobile Services



On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:05, Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.comwrote:



  -Original Message-
  From: D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. [mailto:fo...@lemcoe.com]
  Sent: 12 October 2011 18:01
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
 
  Haven't received an e-mail on my Blackberry since around 4AM, located
  in Atlanta.
 

 Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)

 --
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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu

 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, andrew.wallace said:
  Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look
  at this perhaps being sabotage.
 
 It ain't sabotage till you rule out misconfigured router.
 
 Andrew, you *really* need to learn what the actual failure modes and
 root causes in real-life production networks are, and draw conclusions
 from reality, not whatever MI-7 inspired dream world the claim of
 sabotage came from.

In fairness, Valdis, Andrew did not say this was obviously sabotage.

He suggested that that possibility be added to the list of things which
the RIM employees tasked with finding a root cause consider.

I think the old filtering rule applies here:

Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.

Three times is enemy action.

If this turns out to look like it came from 3 or more non-cascading failures, 
then
sabotage will look a little more likely.

Cheers,
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Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
And I suppose the bad guys who are out there gaming RIPE etc policies are
not touching v6 with a bargepole?

Or are they stockpiling massive amounts of v6 space?

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo 
carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe we should just allow this to go on until all IPv4 space is so
 polluted that no-one wants to use it anymore :-)

 Bad Reputation as an IPv6 Transition Driver




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Re: DPI deployment use case

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Apparently Telcos are faced with implementing the following algorithm
to create value-added services:

- Take service S with provides value Y
- Artificially remove value, creating new service V
- Price V at the same level as S
- Offer old S at a higher price point and market it as a value added
service, compared to V

One would have thought that value added referred to well, *adding*
value to what already exists, not rehashing current offers and
artificially limiting them.

But then again, I don't think like a marketing person.

If you want a funny look at a not-so-funny and grim possible future
scenario, you might want to read this:
http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/~olaf/LACNIC_XVI_Meat_and_Greed.pdf

regards

Carlos

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote:

        I imagine that those proposals are not from users …

        I would add tyrannical telcos cracking down on their own customers.

 -as

 On 7 Oct 2011, at 14:20, Claudio Lapidus wrote:

 Hello,

 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert milln...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their
 own population(*).
 Was this the sort of use-case you were looking for? :)

 Ummm, not really... :)

 Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on traffic
 classification, like e.g. access our own webmail and all social networking
 sites, but not skype and video or the capability to do exact metering based
 on net traffic time or volume, as well as being able to redirect the
 customer to various captive portals using HTTP redirect directly from the
 DPI box, and such.





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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, Egypt affected (not N.A.)

2011-10-12 Thread -Hammer-
Again. I know those stories are out there. I'm blessed with a lower 
profile or higher karma. One of the two.


digging thru cube to fine wood to knock on

-Hammer-

I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer



On 10/12/2011 11:53 AM, Mike Gatti wrote:

I have and totally get the point ...

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On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:

   


 

-Original Message-
From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmc...@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 October 2011 17:10
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide,
Egypt affected (not N.A.)

I have been witness to N+1 HUMAN failures but never a N+1 hardware
failure or system/design failure that warranted questioning the need
for
N+2. Usually your N+1 failure is (as already referenced) pasting in a
bad config that gets replicated or something like that. Not saying the
hardware is perfect. It's just that I haven't personally seen a full
blown failure like that without human help.
   

You have not seen VIP2-40s and CEF in action ;-)

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Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I don't buy the bad-guys-rig-policies thing... but well, I could be wrong.

But regarding your second comment, yes, I do believe that bad guys
take the path of least resistance whenever possible. At some point
IPv6 will look attractive to them and they will start using it.

My logs show that I get spam over IPv6, so some bad guys might be
already doing it.

cheers!

Carlos

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 And I suppose the bad guys who are out there gaming RIPE etc policies are
 not touching v6 with a bargepole?

 Or are they stockpiling massive amounts of v6 space?

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo 
 carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe we should just allow this to go on until all IPv4 space is so
 polluted that no-one wants to use it anymore :-)

 Bad Reputation as an IPv6 Transition Driver




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Re: Botnets buying up IPv4 address space

2011-10-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-10-12 19:34 , Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
 I don't buy the bad-guys-rig-policies thing... but well, I could be wrong.

Rigging is not the right name for it, which is why the original message
stated 'gaming', which is quite accurate. You just set up an official
(shell) company and thus get official papers for it and with that you go
to RIPE NCC (or any other RIR or LIR) and request a new chunk of address
space just like every other organization is able to do. Nothing much
that RIPE NCC can do about, as all the paperwork will check out just
fine and they will generally even pay the fees as well, they are making
money off it.

[..]
 My logs show that I get spam over IPv6, so some bad guys might be
 already doing it.

Spam will come over every path possible. If a compromised machine has
IPv6, it will thus also come over IPv6 if your MXs are reachable over
it. Just repeat: Long live SpamAssassin ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen



Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Abley

On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:

 Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)

The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing 
intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple 
transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge have different, 
less-dramatic failure modes.

No news, here. http://isen.com/stupid.html


Joe


Re: 2011.10.12 NANOG53 weds morning session notes

2011-10-12 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
And as always, thank you Matt for taking the time and effort to do all of this 
work to provide a great service to the community.

Thanks again,

Mike

On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:

 Wow.  As always, Geoff Huston really knows
 how to deliver a message in a way that just
 reaches right out and grabs you; awesome, awesome
 keynote talk, that's going to be another one for
 the archives.  ^_^
 
 Notes from this morning's session have been
 posted to
 http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2011.10.12-nanog53-morning-session.txt
 
 Thanks again to all the speakers for a great
 conference--see you all in San Diego!!
 
 Matt
 

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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I've always believed that RIM's decision to implement email and other
services in this way was a very poor choice that at some point would
blow up in their faces. My evil half would say that is was a
marketer's rather than an engineer's decision.

It's one thing when you are basically the only game in town (as RIM
was a few years ago), now it's a completely different scenario.

RIM already faces a complicated playground. More high-profile
incidents like this one and suddenly people start losing confidence in
the service... one thing leads to another... then suddenly you're
target for acquisition by a huge corporation. Then things look up
again but exactly one year later that huge corporation buries
everything you did and you're a page in a history book :-)

Good luck to them,

Carlos

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:

 On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:

 Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)

 The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing 
 intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple 
 transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge have different, 
 less-dramatic failure modes.

 No news, here. http://isen.com/stupid.html


 Joe




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Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
target subnets that were being hit?

Ray



Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that has
gotten this.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
www.race.com 





On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
target subnets that were being hit?

Ray






Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Paul
There are a fair number of reports of Apple's update servers being 
down/intermittent.  I imagine that's probably fairly inevitable on 
launch day.  If people haven't already updated and are thinking about 
doing it, it's probably worth holding off a day or two just in case.


Paul

On 10/12/2011 10:56 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:

Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that has
gotten this.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
www.race.com





On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolsonrvandol...@esri.com  wrote:


On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:

With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
target subnets that were being hit?

Ray









Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jorge Amodio
I didn't have issues downloading the update, it took less than 10min,
but I've so many apps and stuff on a 32GB iPod that the process of
backing up, upgrade, restore, somewhere in the middle you have to
confirm some settings and backing up the apps for which I still I see
23 pending updates I guess due the new version of iOS is kind of
tedious, iTunes does not provide much information besides a dialog box
saying Restoring iPod apps, but the iPod is not with the classic
syncing message, on the iPod I can see the icons for the apps being
restored showing up one by one.

Besides connectivity problems and latency, the whole process seems to
take a lot of time, so be patient and plan to see your iGadget coming
back to live slowly.

-J

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:
 Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
 mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
 that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
 upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
 server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that has
 gotten this.

 Carlos Alcantar
 Race Communications / Race Team Member
 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
 Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
 www.race.com





 On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
target subnets that were being hit?

Ray








Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Ryan Wilkins
Have you previously run TinyUmbrella?  It has been known to set gs.apple.com to 
a cydia server in the local hosts file which would return an error.

Or it could be gs is overloaded or down.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:

 Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
 mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
 that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
 upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
 server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that has
 gotten this.
 
 Carlos Alcantar
 Race Communications / Race Team Member
 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
 Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
 www.race.com 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?
 
 That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
 target subnets that were being hit?
 
 Ray
 
 
 
 



RE: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Chad Burnham
HI,

Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic
jumped significantly today.  The theory (no data) is the Apple updates
released today.

Chad Burnham
University of Denver


-Original Message-
From: Zachary McGibbon [mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:10 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Apple updates - Affect on network

With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

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Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jared Mauch
The simple updates for a single machine today range in the 700mb-1.5gb or more 
range 10.7.2+iTunes+one iOS image. With a variety of devices it could easily be 
4gb+ per user. Many broadband users are seeing slow akamai speeds because of 
these updates. I've seen 2+ hour download times myself

Jared Mauch

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Chad Burnham cburn...@du.edu wrote:

 HI,
 
 Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic
 jumped significantly today.  The theory (no data) is the Apple updates
 released today.
 
 Chad Burnham
 University of Denver
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Zachary McGibbon [mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:10 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Apple updates - Affect on network
 
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?
 
 [image: image.png]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 .




L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already) what 
its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom 
Ramblings:


http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/level-3-announces-new-policy-for-internet-protocol-interconnection/

Cheers,
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Re: Apple updates - Effect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jorge Amodio
On top of all that add that there are many apps that have also been
updated today to be in sync with new iOS features.

-J

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 The simple updates for a single machine today range in the 700mb-1.5gb or 
 more range 10.7.2+iTunes+one iOS image. With a variety of devices it could 
 easily be 4gb+ per user. Many broadband users are seeing slow akamai speeds 
 because of these updates. I've seen 2+ hour download times myself

 Jared Mauch

 On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Chad Burnham cburn...@du.edu wrote:

 HI,

 Our GigaPOP (Front Range GigaPOP) and our own Akamai cache server's traffic
 jumped significantly today.  The theory (no data) is the Apple updates
 released today.

 Chad Burnham
 University of Denver


 -Original Message-
 From: Zachary McGibbon [mailto:zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:10 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Apple updates - Affect on network

 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?




Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Regnauld
Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
 
 On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
 
  Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
 
 The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing 
 intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple 
 transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge have different, 
 less-dramatic failure modes.

This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated servers,
AFAIU.

P.



Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2011/10/12 Zachary McGibbon zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com

 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

 [image: image.png]


On our side, Akamai is sending us 40% more traffic than yesterday at the
same time.

A traffic increase can be seen on Lonap exchange point (
http://www.lonap.net/bandwidth.shtml)

-- 
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attachment: lonap-total-day.png

Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Joe Abley

On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:

 Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
 
 On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
 
 Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
 
 The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of processing 
 intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the core as a simple 
 transport and shift the processing intelligence to the edge have different, 
 less-dramatic failure modes.
 
   This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated servers,
   AFAIU.

I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic between 
handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through a cellular 
network, still flows through RIM.


Joe


Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Regnauld
Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
 
  This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated servers,
  AFAIU.
 
 I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic between 
 handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through a cellular 
 network, still flows through RIM.

Correct - they need to transit at some point through the RIM servers.


http://www.interworks.com/blogs/wlyles/2010/01/14/why-rim-outage-affects-users-corporate-bes

That's just wrong on so many levels.

Cheers,
Phil



Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Ryan,

Looks to have been the gs.apple.com was over loaded after about 30
attempts and 3 hrs it finally went through.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
http://www.race.com



On 10/12/11 2:25 PM, Ryan Wilkins r...@deadfrog.net wrote:

Have you previously run TinyUmbrella?  It has been known to set
gs.apple.com to a cydia server in the local hosts file which would return
an error.

Or it could be gs is overloaded or down.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:

 Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
 mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
 that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
 upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
 server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that
has
 gotten this.
 
 Carlos Alcantar
 Race Communications / Race Team Member
 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
 Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
 www.race.com 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?
 
 That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
 target subnets that were being hit?
 
 Ray
 
 
 
 




Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Scott Weeks
--- j...@baylink.com wrote:
From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com

In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already) what 
its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom 
Ramblings:


http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/level-3-announces-new-policy-for-internet-protocol-interconnection/
-



Isn't it just more of the same, or am I brainnumb today?


...each party bears a reasonably equal share of backbone burdens – taking into 
account the amount of traffic carried by each party and the distance over which 
that traffic is carried.

One fundamental aspect of the new policy is a requirement that carriers adjust 
routing practices and interconnection locations so that the distance and volume 
of traffic carried by each party on their backbone network remains equitable.

If one party to a settlement-free peering relationship is carrying far less 
traffic over far less distances than the other party, the policy would require 
changes to interconnection locations and routing to more equitably distribute 
the burden of carrying traffic and thus preserve a fair settlement-free peering 
relationship


Hopefully, I am not accidentally trolling as has happened in the past...  :-)
scott

TR: Will Sprint sell IP network to get cash to build out LTE?

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
Telecom Ramblings had another good piece this week, on who might buy Sprint's
terrestrial division if they put it up for sale...

http://www.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/where-sprint-is-going-to-get-the-cash

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Google Contact

2011-10-12 Thread James P. Ashton
Hello all,
 Can someone from Google, clue-full about the malware list, please contact me 
offlist.  It appears that several customer servers have had their sites listed 
simply because they originate from our ASN.

If anyone has any experience with this, thoughts and ideas are more than 
welcome.

Thanks
James 



Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Matt Addison
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:10, Zachary McGibbon
zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

Saw a +300mbps (+150%) increase on my Akamai cluster ~1315 EDT. No
appreciable increase on transit or peering.

~Matt



RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
Oh, hell:

http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html

-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274



Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

 http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html

A longer obituary thread for him than for steve jobs I think.  He deserves it.
[and gmail wants me to consider including Mikael Abrahamsson on this
thread, dont know whatever for]

--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)



Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

2011-10-12 Thread Jack Bates

On 10/12/2011 9:40 PM, Matt Addison wrote:

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:10, Zachary McGibbon
zachary.mcgibbon+na...@gmail.com  wrote:

With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.

Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?

Saw a +300mbps (+150%) increase on my Akamai cluster ~1315 EDT. No
appreciable increase on transit or peering.


Same.  165% increase to Akamai. Had a large spike 10/11, though not as 
much as 10/12.


Jack



Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

2011-10-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote:

        Correct - they need to transit at some point through the RIM servers.

        
 http://www.interworks.com/blogs/wlyles/2010/01/14/why-rim-outage-affects-users-corporate-bes

        That's just wrong on so many levels.

yet... people AND CORPORATIONS still use them... Hrm, one wonders how
plain-text-like the traffic is between endpoints? how much data is
there that could be used to identify the endpoints? Look, jabley's
sure sending lots of traffic to capitan knight... maybe there's
something going on in jabley-land?

just sayin'!



Re: L3 announces new peering policy

2011-10-12 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

In the wake of their GBLX acquisition, Level 3 has announced (already)
what 
its new peering policy will be, in this press release posted at Telecom

Ramblings:

http://newswire.telecomramblings.com/2011/10/level-3-announces-new-policy-for-internet-protocol-interconnection/


Says all and nothing. 

-- 
Pierfrancesco Caci




Re: RIP dmr

2011-10-12 Thread Lynda
I started with UNIX back when it arrived at school, on reel to reel 
tapes, and it was loaded on to the PDP 11/45. I learned to write C from 
the original KR (which I still have, of course).


Dennis was one of the good ones. A kind and generous person, who changed 
all our worlds.


Rest In Peace