RE: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread George Bonser
> This is what disaster simulations are for, to suss out these problems > before a disaster and put in systems to avoid the mess. > > In the real world, while a city might keep the digital documents "in > the cloud" they would also (always) have paper copies, because in a big > emergency their com

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Thomas
On 01/21/2012 12:19 PM, George Bonser wrote: Sure, but balance that with podunk.usa's possibly incompetent IT staff? It costs a lot of money to run a state of the art shop, but only incrementally more as you add more and more instances of essentially identical shops. I guess I have more trust tha

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread James Smith
Well I have a question which is off the top of megaupload.com But it's regarding governments around the world using cloud services. Do we have others Canadians on this list who can confirm, what branches of the Canada Government are actively using public cloud services like google cloud services

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 1/21/2012 12:19 PM, George Bonser wrote: I agree, Mike. Problem is that the communications infrastructure that enables these sorts of options is generally so reliable people don't think about what will happen if something happens between them and their data that takes out their access to tho

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Lyle Giese" > >> Not that I would not be a bit miffed if personal files disappeared, but >> that's one of the risks associated with using a cloud service for file >> storage. It could have been a fire, a v

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread JC Dill
On 21/01/12 12:19 PM, George Bonser wrote: Imagine a situation where several municipal governments in, say, Santa Cruz County, California are using such services and there is a repeat of the Loma Prieta quake. Their data survives in Santa Clara county, their city offices survive but there is co

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Joly MacFie" > Technical nuances notwithsatnding, isn't the guts of the case that the > megaupload team wilfully engaged in harbouring infringing files as > evidenced by the email snooping, eg boasting to each other about > having feature movies available pri

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Donald Eastlake" > I have always had a certain fondness for paper. Well, I was wondering where the Whacky Weekend thread was this week. "You can't grep dead trees." Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@bayl

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Lyle Giese" > Not that I would not be a bit miffed if personal files disappeared, but > that's one of the risks associated with using a cloud service for file > storage. It could have been a fire, a virus erasing file, bankruptcy, > malicious insider damage..

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Thomas
On 01/21/2012 03:28 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote: On 1/21/12 11:38 , George Bonser wrote: Entire governments in the US are using "cloud storage" for their documentation these days. It is my understanding (which is hearsay) that Google has an entire service aimed at small governments (county and munic

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/21/12 11:38 , George Bonser wrote: >> Not that I would not be a bit miffed if personal files disappeared, >> but that's one of the risks associated with using a cloud service >> for file storage. It could have been a fire, a virus erasing file, >> bankruptcy, malicious insider damage... Does

Re: How are you doing DHCPv6 ?

2012-01-21 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > Several people have mentioned clustering software. Does any one have any > examples of such a thing that supports v4 and v6? > > Linux-HA, RSF-1, Oracle Solaris Cluster, Veritas cluster, are a few examples of clustering software. ocf_hear

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Donald Eastlake
I have always had a certain fondness for paper. Thanks, Donald =  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA  d3e...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM, George Bonser wrote: >> >> Sure, but balance that with podunk

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Kevin Day
On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 03:06:04PM -0500, Ricky Beam wrote: >> Upon receiving notice a file is infinging, they know that *file* >> is illegal, and must now remove all the links to it, not just the >> one that was reported. > > But what -- *ex

RE: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread George Bonser
> > Sure, but balance that with podunk.usa's possibly incompetent IT staff? > It costs a lot of money to run a state of the art shop, but only > incrementally more as you add more and more instances of essentially > identical shops. I guess I have more trust that Google is going to get > the redun

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Michael Thomas
On 01/21/2012 11:38 AM, George Bonser wrote: Entire governments in the US are using "cloud storage" for their documentation these days. It is my understanding (which is hearsay) that Google has an entire service aimed at small governments (county and municipal mostly) in Google Docs for just t

RE: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread George Bonser
> Not that I would not be a bit miffed if personal files disappeared, but > that's one of the risks associated with using a cloud service for file > storage. It could have been a fire, a virus erasing file, bankruptcy, > malicious insider damage... Doesn't matter, you lost access to legit > conte

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Lyle Giese
On 01/21/12 12:38, George Bonser wrote: that was reported. But what -- *exactly* -- is an "illegal file"? As Leo Bicknell astutely pointed out in this thread: "Also, when using a hashed file store, it's possible that some uses are infringing and some are not." The problem is

Re: How are you doing DHCPv6 ?

2012-01-21 Thread Randy Carpenter
Several people have mentioned clustering software. Does any one have any examples of such a thing that supports v4 and v6? We have always used the built in failover in ISC dhcpd, and it works nicely. I don't understand why they felt it would not be needed in v6. -Randy On Jan 21, 2012, at 12:3

RE: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread George Bonser
> > that was reported. > > But what -- *exactly* -- is an "illegal file"? > > As Leo Bicknell astutely pointed out in this thread: > > "Also, when using a hashed file store, it's possible that > some uses are infringing and some are not." The problem is going to be the thousands of

Re: How are you doing DHCPv6 ?

2012-01-21 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Randy Carpenter writes: > > Duplicate assignments are not a problem as long as you ensure that the > client is the same. > Duplicate assignments to different clients also won't be established if your standby server has access to an identica

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Roland Perry
In article <20120121121149.ga14...@gsp.org>, Rich Kulawiec writes But what -- *exactly* -- is an "illegal file"? Perhaps you mean "infringing"? -- Roland Perry

Fwd: [Argus] 190.144.248.64/27 is 'hijacked' by anomalous origin 'AS27817'

2012-01-21 Thread Yang Xiang
FYI, Argus detected a hijacking just now. It seems, I should send this email to South America NOG. -- Forwarded message -- From: argus-alarm Date: 2012/1/21 Subject: [Argus] 190.144.248.64/27 is 'hijacked' by anomalous origin 'AS27817' To: argus Prefix hijacking alarm: Start

Re: How are you doing DHCPv6 ?

2012-01-21 Thread Bjørn Mork
Randy Carpenter writes: > DHCP is certainly not stateless, which is why there is a concept of > leases, which are stored in a file. You can't have 2 servers answering > for the same subnet without some sort of coordination, or you would > have a potential for duplicate addresses being assigned.

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 03:06:04PM -0500, Ricky Beam wrote: > Upon receiving notice a file is infinging, they know that *file* > is illegal, and must now remove all the links to it, not just the > one that was reported. But what -- *exactly* -- is an "illegal file"? As Leo Bicknell astutely poi

Re: Argus: a hijacking alarm system

2012-01-21 Thread Yang Xiang
2012/1/21 Suresh Ramasubramanian > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:45 PM, RijilV wrote: > >> A suggestion: pick a different name. There's already a network tool > >> named Argus (it's been around for years): http://www.qosient.com/argus/ > >> > >> I suggest using the name of a different Wishbone Ash

Re: Argus: a hijacking alarm system

2012-01-21 Thread Yang Xiang
ah, bad news ~ too many Argus :) 2012/1/21 RijilV > On 20 January 2012 07:53, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 05:47:21PM +0800, Yang Xiang wrote: > >> I build a system ?Argus? to real-timely alert prefix hijackings. > > > > A suggestion: pick a different name. There's already