On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
Nick Hilliard wrote:
most of the expense of laying fibre is associated with ducting + wayleave.
Another important expense of FTTH is at the last yards of
dropping cables fro the laed fiber, where SS needs simple
closures and shorter
But they also deserve to have or enjoy the benefits that comes with living in
the big cities
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On 25/03/2012 15:47 Jay Ashworth wrote:
Well, for my part, /most of the poiny/ of muni is The Public Good; if /actual/
bond financed muni fiber is skipping the Hard Parts,
On 23 March 2012 13:31, Aled Morris al...@qix.co.uk wrote:
On 23 March 2012 11:53, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
All three cables are being laid for the same reasons: Redundancy and speed.
As it stands, it takes roughly 230 milliseconds for a packet to go from
London to Tokyo; the new
Jared Mauch wrote:
Another important expense of FTTH is at the last yards of
dropping cables fro the laed fiber, where SS needs simple
closures and shorter dropping cables than PON.
These enclosures (including all electronics but SFP) are around $350.
What?
What do you mean including all
Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote on 03/26/2012 06:16:53 AM:
I imagine a easier solution. Use a random number generator in both
sides, with the same seed. Then use a slower way to send packets
re-sync that will contain the delta from the generated number, to the
real actual number.
I
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:16:53 +0200, Tei said:
I imagine a easier solution. Use a random number generator in both
sides, with the same seed. Then use a slower way to send packets
re-sync that will contain the delta from the generated number, to the
real actual number.
Congrats. You've just
On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
The massive drop in latency is expected to supercharge algorithmic stock
market trading, where a difference of a few milliseconds can gain (or lose)
millions of dollars.
But it should be
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:59:34 -0400, Rodrick Brown said:
HIgh frequency trading does provide a service to the financial markets as a
whole despite what the media and government politicians will have you think.
OK, I'll bite. What benefit does the market *as a whole* get from the ability
to do
Active Ethernet solution outdoor enclosure sfp+2xGE+2xPOTS is about 350 without
optics
Inside device is closer to 150-160.
... Certainly agree on install costs.
Jared
On Mar 26, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp
wrote:
Jared Mauch wrote:
Another important
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From: joshua klubi joshua.kl...@gmail.com
But they also deserve to have or enjoy the benefits that comes with
living in the big cities
Well, deserve is a strong word... but the underlying thought is my
primary reason for believing that municipal fiber is a good
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From: joshua.kl...@gmail.com [mailto:joshua.kl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:10 AM
To: Owen DeLong; Frank Bulk; Jay Ashworth
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Muni Fiber (was: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives,
etc)
But they also deserve to have or enjoy
Here in Maine, after seeing no strong proposals were being put forward by
others, we went after American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds to
address a major lack of middle-mile infrastructure in the state.
Verizon had stopped making new investments in Maine for nearly 10 years
before pulling
Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
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From: joshua.kl...@gmail.com [mailto:joshua.kl...@gmail.com]
But they also deserve to have or enjoy the benefits that comes with
living in the big cities
I grew up in a rural area served by dialup for the first 15 years of my life,
so please
I have discovered that the Federal School Lunch E-Rate program has built
out an entirely parallel fiber optic infrastructure in the USA, bypassing
telco fiber in many urban areas such as Los Angeles/Southern California.
There are now companies that exist solely to construct E-Rate fiber.
Sunesys
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From: david peahi [mailto:davidpe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:54 PM
To: Jared Mauch
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al)
I have discovered that the Federal School Lunch E-Rate program has built
On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:32 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:59:34 -0400, Rodrick Brown said:
HIgh frequency trading does provide a service to the financial markets as a
whole despite what the media and government politicians will have you think.
OK, I'll bite. What
Owen DeLong wrote:
Right, but a better approach would have been for the FCC to say If you don't
build fiber, you won't keep getting USF money.
The FCC failed to look at the public interest and got rolled by the RBOCs again.
Owen
Regulatory capture. Nobody is immune. The only effective
It varies from state to state ...
In Maine, we've run an E-rate filing consortium for several years that uses
E-rate funds and makes up the difference with a
state telecommunications tax so schools and libraries don't need to pay for
service.
Up until a year or two ago, Verizon was always
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From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org
wiring center you enable all technologies. GPON today, direct GigE
or 10GE where necessary, and all future technologies.
yep, agreed - much more sensible, much more resilient to failure and
only marginally more expensive.
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From: JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com
On 25/03/12 8:56 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:47:58AM -0400, Jay
Ashworth wrote:
Well, for my part, /most of the poiny/ of muni is The Public Good;
if /actual/ bond financed muni
True, but it's the one monopoly where you get a vote.
I'm not sure it's fair to call a municipality a monopoly ... but that's
just me.
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
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From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org
wiring center you
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From: Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
It'll never be done though. Too much to lose by creating a
topology which allows you to unbundle the tail.
A municipality hasn't much to lose; they can
Who knows what technology will be like in 5-10 years? That's the whole
point of what he was trying to say. Maybe wireless carriers will use
visible wavelength lasers to recievers on top of customer's houses for all
we know. 10 years is a LONG time for tech, and anything can happen.
On Mar 25,
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Jacob Broussard
shadowedstrangerli...@gmail.com wrote:
Who knows what technology will be like in 5-10 years? That's the whole
point of what he was trying to say. Maybe wireless carriers will use
visible wavelength lasers to recievers on top of customer's
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