Hi folks,
For quite a few folks here on the list travel is a common thing, going
into foreign wireless networks is too. Likely your laptop/tablet comes
with IPv6 enabled per default, it is 2012 after all almost going 2013.
And then you get to a silly hotspot and it does not work as the
I seriously doubt many TOR exit nodes have the political clout to be
considered a common carrier.
In a related note, I wonder if the six-strike rule would violate the ISP's
safe harbor, as it's clearly content inspection.
Nick
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Jordan Michaels
On 2012-12-04 11:51, Nick B wrote:
In a related note, I wonder if the six-strike rule would violate the ISP's
safe harbor, as it's clearly content inspection.
As performed in France, what happens is that some copyright owner
contacts the ISP that IP address a.b.c.d had accessed/served copyright
We don't do content inspection. We don't really want to know what our
customers are doing, and even if we did, there's not enough time in the day
to spend paying attention. When we get complaints from the various
copyright agencies, we warn the customer to stop. When we hit a certain
number of
Already dealt with that at an airport once. One look at my picture and
his cleared that right up and they put a note in the entry system that
says I am not this guy. High tech huh. Sometimes the system works. By
the way we have different middle initials and different SSNs.
I have an original
On 12-12-03 14:44, Jordan Michaels wrote:
case evolves in and out of court. Are Tor exit-node operators going to
be given the same rights as ISP's who's networks are used for illegal
purposes?
Perhaps if Tor exit node were called Tor exit Router,
politicians/policemen would have a better
I know I'm going to get flamed and excoriated, but here goes
snip
case evolves in and out of court. Are Tor exit-node operators going to
be given the same rights as ISP's who's networks are used for illegal
purposes? I would hope so, but it doesn't seem like that has happened in
this
ISOC-NY ran a half day conflab on 6 strikes (which incidentally - and for
reasons that escape me - is a name the Copyright Alert System perpetrators
wish would not be used) last November 15.
A full archive is available at http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4527
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jason Baugher
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:32:01 +, Brian Johnson said:
This is a misleading statement. ISP's (Common carriers) do not provide a
knowingly
illegal offering, ... TOR exit/entrance nodes provide only the former.
This is also a misleading statement. Explain the difference between
a consumer
This is a misleading statement. ISP's (Common carriers) do not provide a
knowingly
I'm trying to remember when ISP's became common carriers...
illegal offering, ... TOR exit/entrance nodes provide only the former.
This is also a misleading statement. Explain the difference between
a
Marketing... They don't want to risk it getting caught in the current backlash
against 3-strikes laws.
Owen
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:13 , Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:
ISOC-NY ran a half day conflab on 6 strikes (which incidentally - and for
reasons that escape me - is a name the
On Dec 4, 2012, at 09:32 , Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote:
I know I'm going to get flamed and excoriated, but here goes
snip
case evolves in and out of court. Are Tor exit-node operators going to
be given the same rights as ISP's who's networks are used for illegal
purposes? I
In countries where the law does not dictate that all carriers maintain
extensive logs, this is fairly simple. Whether you are a Tor node or a
normal ISP, you do nothig until you get a court ordered warrant, at
which point you collect information passing through your network and
hand it over to
Owen DeLong wrote:
I strongly disagree with you.
TOR exit nodes provide a vital physical infrastructure to free speech advocates who live in jurisdictions where strong
forces are
aligned against free speech. I'm sure most TOR exit node operators would happily provide all the details they have
On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote:
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From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:22 PM
To: Brian Johnson
Cc: Jordan Michaels; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit
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