RE: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Can't find any statement whether the nifty proclaimed 400G wavelength is indeed a single 100GHz channel or just a bundled supper channel The only hint is the total capacity of a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44 wavelengths which is roughly the whole 100GHz spaced grid adam -Original Message-

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: The cost difference in a single interface card to carry an OC-3/12 isn't significantly more than a Gig-E card. Now, as I said there is no advantage to doing ATM, but the real cost savings in a single interface are not significant. There has always

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Good times indeed... Regards, Jeff On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:09, Brett Watson br...@the-watsons.org wrote: Hell, we used to not have to bother notifying customers of anything, we just fixed the problem. Reminds me a of a story I've probably shared on the past. 1995, IETF in Dallas. The big

Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?

2013-02-07 Thread Alex Harrowell
On 03/02/13 05:55, Frank Bulk wrote: Yes, but IP TV is not profitable on stand-alone basis -- it's just a necessary part of the triple play. A lot of the discussion has been about Internet and network design, but not much about the other two plays. I've certainly heard FTTH deployers mention

FYI: PBR-LB - Direct Server Return Load Balancing using Policy Based Routing (MEMO)

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Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 29/01/2013 11:58, Nick Hilliard wrote: None of them will do trill. The Extreme X670 and Juniper EX4550 will both do VPLS, though. The X670 won't do BGP. this is incorrect: the ex4550 will do l2vpn/l3vpn but not vpls. The X480 does vpls, but not the X670. Nick

Re: Alcatel-Lucent and France Tel deploy 400G for testing

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.sk Can't find any statement whether the nifty proclaimed 400G wavelength is indeed a single 100GHz channel or just a bundled supper channel The only hint is the total capacity of a fiber of 17.6 Tbps with 44 wavelengths

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Scott Helms
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: The cost difference in a single interface card to carry an OC-3/12 isn't significantly more than a Gig-E card. Now, as I said there is no advantage to doing ATM, but the real

Re: NANOG 57 Notes (on location)

2013-02-07 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: david raistrick dr...@icantclick.org sure would be nice if the nanog meetings were a bit better announcedwhy do I aways find out about the orlando ones during or after? I hadn't realized there was another one

Re: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread excelsio
Well, talking about HP´s A5920/A5900 series. Last time I was looking, their virtual routing instances haven´t supported IPv4 multicast, nor IPv6 multicast/unicast, nor any policy based routing. Michael

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: That has not been demonstrated in the market. There are lots of people who say this, generally they're involved in building fiber plants, but in the US and Canada I've not seen a single report of an actual network where this was true. Do you have any

Google Public DNS having issues.

2013-02-07 Thread Blair Trosper
...seems to be having trouble as reported by Systems Watch: https://twitter.com/systemswatch/status/299572918936039424 Indeed, it's inaccessible to me from Minneapolis, Tampa, SJC, and Seattle...both 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. I know it's anycast, so I'm not sure which DCs are affected... Blair

Re: Google Public DNS having issues.

2013-02-07 Thread jim deleskie
reachable from eastern canada On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: ...seems to be having trouble as reported by Systems Watch: https://twitter.com/systemswatch/status/299572918936039424 Indeed, it's inaccessible to me from Minneapolis, Tampa, SJC, and

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Masataka Ohta
Scott Helms wrote: Now, in general for greenfield builds I'd agree except for PON, which is in many cases cheaper than an Ethernet build. As PON require considerably longer drop cable from a splitters to 4 or 8 subscribers, it can not be cheaper than Ethernet, unless subscriber density is very

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp Scott Helms wrote: Now, in general for greenfield builds I'd agree except for PON, which is in many cases cheaper than an Ethernet build. As PON require considerably longer drop cable from a splitters to 4

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Jason Baugher
In a greenfield build, cost difference for plant between PON and active will be negligible for field-based splitters, non-existent for CO-based splitters. If the company already has some fiber in the ground, then depending on where it is might drastically reduce build costs to use field-based

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Scott Helms
On Feb 7, 2013 12:24 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: That has not been demonstrated in the market. There are lots of people who say this, generally they're involved in building fiber plants, but in the US and Canada I've not seen a single

Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?

2013-02-07 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Jason Baugher wrote: On the CO-side electronics, however... I think it's safe to say that you can do GPON under $100/port. AE is probably going to run close to $300/port. That's a pretty big cost difference, and if it were me I'd be looking pretty hard at a PON deployment

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-07 Thread Brian Landers
The Juniper PR in question is actually 836197. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Jonathan Towne jto...@slic.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:57:06AM -0500, Alex Rubenstein scribbled: # The question should be

Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Joshua Lansford joshua.lansf...@laserlinc.com On 02/07/2013 02:43 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Question: do you guys make a point, at all, of evangelizing to distro maintainers and packagers that they package 4.x, or, more to the point pull 3.x*out* of

Re: Global caches

2013-02-07 Thread fredrik danerklint
-20130207-r1.tar.gz) The file 'TLMC.OVERVIEW' should, hopefully, get you an better idea of how TLMC works. The complete DNS server for both the CSP and the ISP is included as well as the plug-in for the Traffic Server (which is required to let end user/customer to cache the content

Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
[ Oops. Disregard. Damn, but I wish Zimbra understood List-Reply. I only hung the bug ticket 4 years (and two major releases) ago... --j ] - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com To: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:41:05 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [rt-users] RT repo packages

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Darin Perusich da...@darins.net On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: As a field report, BTW: SuSE 12.1 has no packages at all, even in Packman, and CentOS5 has only rt3 (of unknown release), even with epel and remi. I'm

RE: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-07 Thread Siegel, David
I remember being glued to my workstation for 10 straight hours due to an OSPF bug that took down the whole of net99's network. I was pretty proud of our size at the time...about 30Mbps at peak. Times are different and so are expectations. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Brett

RE: switch 10G standalone TOR, core to DC

2013-02-07 Thread Sergey Marunich
Hi Peter, http://www.aristanetworks.com/media/system/pdf/Datasheets/7050S_Datasheet.pdf Arista 7050S-64 48 x 10GE + 4 x 40 GE, price around 25k$ in gpl. Large buffers, supports MLAG, DCB, wire-speed L2/L3 (OSPF,BGP), but doesn't have any kind of TRILL implementation. Have it in production, but

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-07 Thread Dorian Kim
No one had hit the ISIS bug before the IETF enforced maintenance freeze because no one in their right mind would be running three week old code back then. I don't think things have changed that much. ;) -dorian On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Siegel, David wrote: I remember being glued to my

2-Channel CWDM Add/Drop with SC/APC connectors

2013-02-07 Thread Chuck Anderson
Years ago I was able to purchase 2-Channel CWDM Plug-In 1-Wavelength Optical Add/Drop Multiplexors from Finisar with SC/APC connectors on them, even though they normally only make the SC/PC version shown here: FWSF-OADM-1-xx-SC

Re: 2-Channel CWDM Add/Drop with SC/APC connectors

2013-02-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
http://datainterfaces.com/CWDM-DWDM-Solutions.aspx Try these folks. Faisal On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: Years ago I was able to purchase 2-Channel CWDM Plug-In 1-Wavelength Optical Add/Drop Multiplexors from Finisar with SC/APC connectors on them, even

Any experience with Grandstream VoIP equipment ?

2013-02-07 Thread John Levine
I'm in the midst of what would be a comedy of errors if it weren't so annoying. I bought a new Grandstream HT701 VoIP terminal adapter from a guy on eBay who is apparently an official Grandstream reseller. It doesn't work. The guy I bought it from (whose support ends at nobody else has that