Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 23, 2013, at 23:49 , bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote: >> >>> On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen >>> wrote: The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. >>> >>

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread bmanning
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote: > > > On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen > > wrote: > >> The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. > > > > Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution. > > > >> IP dosen't re

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Owen DeLong
On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote: > On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen > wrote: >> The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. > > Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution. > >> IP dosen't reside in countries, > > True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they resid

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Andreas Larsen
If we continue to support and build tools around this geolocation based ip-dravel, we give people a false notion that this is something we should do. Identify users with some other means that Geoip Couple of things comes to mind. * normal postage mail that they have to collect at their home and

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread David Conrad
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen wrote: > The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution. > IP dosen't reside in countries, True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions... Regards, -drc

Re: Widespread Outages

2013-05-23 Thread Jason Hellenthal
That's a no. Not quite sure what you would see in these statistics given the weather conditions around the US. Might be more useful looking at a direct route from a specific point to destination where it might seem like things are awry. Looking glasses would be of more help to determine that.

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Andreas Larsen
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. IP dosen't reside in countries, they are routable adresses that can reside everywhere, I guess soon on mars even. Med vänlig hälsning Andreas Larsen IP-Only Telecommunication AB| Postadress: 753 81 UPPSALA | Besöksadress: S:t Persgatan 6, Uppsala | Telefon: +4

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Seastrom
This may be just a case of getting what you pay for, but Maxmind marks entire netblocks as proxies, puts 'em in the wrong country, and ignores repeated efforts by the registrant of the address space to set the record straight. The problem comes when people actually do stuff with the information,

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread shawn wilson
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson wrote: > >> It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in >> historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what >> is current. So if a block hasn't changed for 10 years, i

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson wrote: > It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in > historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what > is current. So if a block hasn't changed for 10 years, it'll be in the > RIPE dataset vs with the others, I'd have

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread chip
I've used the MaxMind Lite geo-ip database plus some perl modules and a BGP table to get something fairly close. Anything in the BGP table that was larger than a /20 I split into /20's. For my use case, this was close enough. I then grabbed 30 or so IP's within the range and geo-ip mapped them.

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread shawn wilson
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote: >> >> On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote: >> >> >> ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/apnic/stats/apnic/ >> ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/ >> ftp://ftp.lacnic.net/pub/stats/lacnic/ >>

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread shawn wilson
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote: > >> What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of >> writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop >> through the block. But I think I'll have to b

Re: Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote: > What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of > writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop > through the block. But I think I'll have to be smarter than just a simple > loop not to get blocked and

Geoip lookup

2013-05-23 Thread shawn wilson
What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop through the block. But I think I'll have to be smarter than just a simple loop not to get blocked and I figure I'm not the first to want to do this. I've no

Mailman reverting settings

2013-05-23 Thread Grant Ridder
Hi Everyone, Has anyone ever seen Mailman revert to an old user list? This morning we had out lists VM pounded on from India and hung the box. After blocking the ip on our firewall and rebooting the hung vm, everything came back up except 1 list. The list appears to have reverted to old setting

Widespread Outages

2013-05-23 Thread James Smits
Is something major going on? This looks like a X-mas tree http://www.internetpulse.net/ And FedEx rate servers are returning a 503 "for up to an hour" according to their rep.

Re: Reclaiming legacy allocation transferred to APNIC?

2013-05-23 Thread James M Keller
On 5/23/2013 9:25 AM, James M Keller wrote: > All, > > $DAYJOB has a legacy block assignment that was transferred to APNIC from > ARIN under the Early Registration transfer project back in 2003... > > ARIN whois queried directly still shows the /16 block has ARIN contact > information, but walking

Verizon Business Support

2013-05-23 Thread Stephen Amato
Can an Admin from Verizon Business please contact me off-list to resolve a routing/bogon issue? Thank you, Steve

Re: Reclaiming legacy allocation transferred to APNIC?

2013-05-23 Thread John Curran
On May 23, 2013, at 9:25 AM, James M Keller wrote: > All, > > $DAYJOB has a legacy block assignment that was transferred to APNIC from > ARIN under the Early Registration transfer project back in 2003... > > ARIN whois queried directly still shows the /16 block has ARIN contact > information, b

Reclaiming legacy allocation transferred to APNIC?

2013-05-23 Thread James M Keller
All, $DAYJOB has a legacy block assignment that was transferred to APNIC from ARIN under the Early Registration transfer project back in 2003... ARIN whois queried directly still shows the /16 block has ARIN contact information, but walking it down from the /8 APNIC has no data other then the /8

peeringdb accuracy research

2013-05-23 Thread Job Snijders
Dear fellow networkers, I need your help! For the good of PeeringDB I am researching the accuracy of the current PeeringDB data set. We plan to compare three sources of information: peeringdb itself, publicly available listings from IXP operators ... and the ultimate source of truth: user submitt