Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Thought occurs to me--anybody have a traffic analysis that shows how much of the "iOS 7 bump" is due to email on NANOG about it? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur acti

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/2013 5:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > So you understand things aren't always metro e.. That's what I was trying to > say. I still have a coupler.. ;) > > Original message > From: Fred Reimer > > Actually, I started out with a 300 baud acoustic modem. You know, the kind

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/2013 7:54 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: Why do you sell services to customers using ... if you are incapable of supporting them? Are you serious? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex tur

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/13 5:54 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are > incapable of supporting them? Are you sure that it is not you > yourself who have used to much "bait and switch" selling a service > you are unable to provide? What actions do you take t

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

TR Shaw wrote: > Major update & provides many of 5S functionality to the 5, 4S, & 4 Different versions could have been updated on different days, at least. Masataka Ohta

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are incapable of supporting them? Are you sure that it is not you yourself who have used to much "bait and switch" selling a service you are unable to provide? What actions do you take to discourage iThings on your network? > -Or

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:29:28 -, Warren Bailey said: > Who else has had traffic surges like this? Most are reporting a doubling or so of bandwidth, for an event that you had a week's advance notice. April 16 a few years ago, we had a much higher bandwidth impact on much shorter notice. Oh, an

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

In my experience just having a Akamai cache wasn't enough to handle this. Our local cache was doing 15 out of 20gbps usage and seemed pegged at that. One of our customers had a local Akamai cache on there end crash and we were mostly filling a 10gbps pipe to a datacenter with limelight cdn's at it.

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

In message <64245ac1-bc00-4928-b2f7-f259e8632...@puck.nether.net>, Jared Mauch writes: > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "John Souvestre" wrote: > > > Hi Jared. > > > >> The attitude in this email I have encountered elsewhere. Apple pays > >> for bandwidth, customers pay for access. Not sure why

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/13 3:57 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote: > 1) Rate limit the software update download ("Us") > > 2) Have device OS download the update in the background, and be > resilient to failures with retries ("Manufacturer") > > 3) Don't present the update notification to the user until the update > bl

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 2013-09-19, at 18:08, Jared Mauch wrote: > I think there's a lot that could be done when looking at how to shift this. But likely not before the first iOS 7 patch release. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/19/apples-control-center-used-to-bypass-ios-7-passcode-lock Joe

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

1) Rate limit the software update download ("Us") 2) Have device OS download the update in the background, and be resilient to failures with retries ("Manufacturer") 3) Don't present the update notification to the user until the update blob is already cached on the device ("Manufacturer") Only i

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Again, as others have said: complain to the ISP that most probably oversubscribed their links. On 19/09/13 15:29, Warren Bailey wrote: Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and never look back.

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/13 3:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not affect > my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and never look > back. I'm asking.. > > Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote: I'm trying to highlight a point that not all of us have studly 1gbps connections to Akamai. Some of us have to move data into orbit and back.. Some of us are not like the rest of you. These types of situations should not happen in general.. We live in

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 19, 2013, at 14:11, Warren Bailey wrote: > I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which leads me to this question : Over-subscription is a business decision that every network has to m

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote: >> As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened >> with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in 2007. > > The difference is there are now a "couple

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "John Souvestre" wrote: > Hi Jared. > >> The attitude in this email I have encountered elsewhere. Apple pays >> for bandwidth, customers pay for access. Not sure why their release >> strategy is so highly critiqued. > > Because it impacts other, non-Apple custom

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

So you understand things aren't always metro e.. That's what I was trying to say. I still have a coupler.. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Fred Reimer Date: 09/19/2013 2:14 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey ,valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Cc: Mikael Abrahamsso

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and never look back. I'm asking.. Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their software without destroying most last mile connec

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Actually, I started out with a 300 baud acoustic modem. You know, the kind where you take the handset and jam it into two cups? But I digress… From: Warren Bailey mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> Reply-To: Warren Bailey mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> Date: Thu

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Dorian, It seems warren may work for a satellite internet provider. (Just guessing). The impact might be different with this type of a link. There isn't a good broadcast caching system for this compared with the way other content is. This may have that type of an impact, but there are likely wa

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

Hi Jared. > The attitude in this email I have encountered elsewhere. Apple pays > for bandwidth, customers pay for access. Not sure why their release > strategy is so highly critiqued. Because it impacts other, non-Apple customers. Or, it costs the ISP more (passed through to all customers

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I'm willing and open to hear anyone who has successfully had that conversation with their users. When network congestion occurs, we typically see a mass exodus from whatever website was being used to Speedtest.. You know.. Just to make sure the internets are fast. I'm trying to highlight a poin

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:18:29 -, Warren Bailey said: Reversing a few paragraphs to make a point. > We strive to provide a great customer experience, and when "Hardware Maker > X" decides to roll updates .. It can screw us. In this case, can means > absolutely will happen. > I mean, would it b

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Microsoft Windows 8.1 is due out in October.. don't be so sure :) -- Stephen On 19/09/2013 3:11 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: Patch Tuesday is not 1gb per patch. On 9/19/13 11:51 AM, "valdis.kletni...@vt.edu" wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:11:11 -, Warren Bailey said: Why does apple feel it

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

O.K., I understand. Yes, for the average user I suppose they would blame their ISP. I was making the wrong assumption that people understood how the Internet works. At the same time, people would probably be more upset, at least the Apple fanboys, if they metered the updates and some people had

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote: As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in 2007. The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out there than there were in 2007. And i

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote: I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which leads me to this question : Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I certainly don't want to put words in his mouth, but I thin Warren's problem is that he can't upgrade his pipes. Physics limits the bandwidth available, as I think he is a satellite provider. My argument is that if I'm a satellite user I should be well aware, particularly because this is not a n

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

> Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened > that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this > thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that > caused this... all the borders and highlights from the discarded skeuomorphisms cl

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote: Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on a single day? They don't, these are users who actively goes into the software upgrade menu and pressing "upgrade". I believe the nagging won't start for quite some time. -- Mi

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:52:51PM +, Warren Bailey wrote: > My.. Our.. Users expect one thing.. > > Internet. Isn't the ability to download something that they want part of the Internet thing that users expect from their service providers? -dorian

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

My.. Our.. Users expect one thing.. Internet. It is our job to make that happen. When a electronics manufacturer decides to enable updates for all of their phones world wide.. It breaks things. When the Internet breaks, it is my fault. Your Apple update sucked because of me.. There is no "it

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 02:42:12PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: > Given that the code is signed, I'm surprised that iDevices that have already > upgraded the hard way don't advertise a "update available" service on local > networks. Individual devices don't care where the updates come from, so long >

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I own a galaxy note 2..tmo ran an update that pushed to unique IMEI's sequentially. That way, you do not.. 1. Murder your last mike packet network, which is your bandwidth bottleneck. 2. Murder your ggsn/whateverpacketnodeyouwant closer to the core. 3. Anger your paying customers who would like

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

They implemented fanboy-lust which :-) Paul Ferguson wrote: > >Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened >that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this >thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that >caused this... > >Than

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I might agree if there were no warning, but this has happened a few times a year for many years. It's a predictable pattern and well known. It will last about a week and taper off. Jared Mauch > On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Warren Bailey > wrote: > > It's a dick move to globally enable upd

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

To be honest, I don't see this as a problem at all. Use it as an excuse to upgrade your pipes, talk Akamai or CDN of choice into putting a cache on your network, or implement your own caching solution. As operators of the Internet we should be looking for ways to enable things like this, not be

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:11:11PM +, Warren Bailey wrote: > I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a > single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which > leads me to this question : > > Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mo

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Apple actually tries to rate-limit the notifications to prevent this, but you can just manually go check and hit the upgrade button yourself. It's pretty well-known that Apple likes to release ~10am, so tens (hundreds?) of millions of users did just that. Since this update is available for all iThi

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

Apple pushed out a new software upgrade for their user interface...a pretty big upgrade, all the iphone users are downloading it congesting the network. Garrison Carr This email message is intended for the use of the person to whom it has been sent, and may contain information that is confident

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/18/2013 1:38 PM, Zachary McGibbon wrote: > So iOS 7 just came out, here's the spike in our graphs going to our ISP > here at McGill, anyone else noticing a big spike? > > [image: internet-sw1 - Traffic - Te0/7 - To Internet1-srp (IR Canet) - > TenGigabitEthernet0/7] > > Zachary McGibbon Traff

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote: I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which leads me to this question : The vast majority of the traffic I saw was served from the Akamai farm at

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Absolutely correct. Large file updates etc are not an issue for wide band communications networks. If you have 10mbps to your house with a 30ms delay to your first hop.. You're sitting pretty. If you have a 1mbps/512kbps pipe with a built in 750ms latency, things get a little more complicated. Add

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

My iPhone4 was about 600MB IIRC. My iPad mini was about that. I have about 7 iDevices between everyone in my immediate family. FWIW not a single one has actually received the notification yet. I've only manually done my 2 devices. I'm waiting to see how long it takes before I get the 'official

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

+1 If you do not/cannot have an Akamai cache, connect to an IX that does, and make sure you've got the capacity. My own rule of thumb is have 2x the capacity of your average *peak* traffic on an IX. When big events happen, whether it is news, sporting or a major software update, that extra

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

The attitude in this email I have encountered elsewhere. Apple pays for bandwidth, customers pay for access. Not sure why their release strategy is so highly critiqued. Microsoft and others have their own strategies for incremental downloads, caching, etc.. Apple has theirs. Seems like most c

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Fred Reimer wrote: > I was making the wrong assumption that people understood how > the Internet works. Absolutely! Most "people" understand that the internet works by use of a browser and are content with that knowledge. Much like most motor vehicle operators und

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Cutler James R wrote: > --As a side note, IOS 7 fixes/improves iDevices in multiple areas, > making it a compelling upgrade. That's supposed to be the nature of upgrades. If that's where the matter ended then you'd have no argument. The problem is when it comes to the new

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Sounds like a great plan. You could do it for Netflix, Hulu, amazon, Walmart, etc. Get a piece of the action.Am I talking to Verizon? On 9/19/13 1:46 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: A line, is a line, is a line, is a line. There's no difference. Updates are available to all devices on a "downl

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Woah there. I think you are crossing another line, or at least opening another topic of discussion, when you start talking about transit or last mile providers charging companies for bandwidth that their customers are already paying for. I'd suggest a subject change if we want to open a discussio

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 2013-09-19, at 14:11, Warren Bailey wrote: > I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a > single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which > leads me to this question : > > Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Patch Tuesday is not 1gb per patch. On 9/19/13 11:51 AM, "valdis.kletni...@vt.edu" wrote: >On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:11:11 -, Warren Bailey said: > >> Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on >>a single day? > >How is Patch Tuesday any different?

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on a > single day? Apple does not "send" updates. The user device must request an update. --As a side note, IOS 7 fixes/improves iDevices in multiple areas, making it a c

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 13-09-19 02:46 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > A line, is a line, is a line, is a line. > > There's no difference. Updates are available to all devices on a "download > day", and providers networks are drastically reduced in capacity as a > result. Apple does not cut them checks to serve it up, why

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

How about add a cache in your time capsule/thing that everyone connects to? I mean, would it be THAT hard to enable a bonjour update server on an apple router/computer/whatever and serve things up locally from there? I've had many replies to this email already, and people are talking about upgradi

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

(merging 2 replies) On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:11:21 -, Warren Bailey said: > Patch Tuesday is not 1gb per patch. It is those months a service pack comes out. On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:22:50 -, Warren Bailey said: > These people (Apple) represent themselves as smart guys, but their actions > r

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

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Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Sep 19, 2013, at 14:11, Warren Bailey wrote: > I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a > single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which > leads me to this question : > > W

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Why should Apple care if providers have oversubscribed lines or not? As far as I know, Akamai delivers most of the data anyway, so it is not coming all from Apple. I don't know for sure, but I doubt they have enough bandwidth themselves to saturate so many links concurrently. Apple also does not

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

A line, is a line, is a line, is a line. There's no difference. Updates are available to all devices on a "download day", and providers networks are drastically reduced in capacity as a result. Apple does not cut them checks to serve it up, why should that traffic be more important than anything e

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Sep 19, 2013, at 13:58, Paul Ferguson wrote: > Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened > that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this > thread, but I would be curious to know what iO

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Tens of millions of devices multiplied times a fairly large download = lots of bandwidth. It has an appreciable affect on the worldwide Internet. I would love to see some aggregate statistics. With most phones the carrier takes care of doing phone software updates and rollouts over a period of ti

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 2013-09-19, at 13:58, Paul Ferguson wrote: > Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened > that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this > thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that > caused this... I think the infere

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Okay, that makes sense. Just wanted to ensure it wasn't something more sinister. Thanks, - ferg On 9/19/2013 11:05 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Paul Ferguson wrote: Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so muc

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

We also saw a huge spike in traffic. Still pretty high today as well. We saw a ~60% above average hit yesterday, And we're at ~20-30% above average today as well. Being an android user, It didn't dawn on me until some of the IOS users in the office started jumping up and down about IOS7 Nick Olse

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that caused this... Thanks in adavnce, - ferg On 9/19/2013 10:23 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: We

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Paul Ferguson wrote: Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that caused this... The IOS7 upgrade is ~750 meg

RE: iOS 7 update traffic

It was released Thanks Darren http://www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:58:24 -0700 > From: fergdawgs...@mykolab.com > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic > > > Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened > that started generatin

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Major update & provides many of 5S functionality to the 5, 4S, & 4 On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > > Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened > that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this > thread, but I would be curious

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Paul Ferguson wrote: Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that caused this... I think this was just the tra

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

IOS7 was released (Yesterday?). Due to the large number of IOS devices out in the world. Some network operators experienced large spikes in traffic as each device was updated (Downloading the update). You see the same thing happen when new software is released from people like Microsoft. Or, If

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On 9/19/13 10:58 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this thread, but I would be curious to know what iOS 7 implemented that caused this... iOS 7 itself was implemented

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Haven't updated my iPad yet but the iPhone update size was 1.12GB On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> >> Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened >> that started generating so much traffic? Perhap

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which leads me to this question : Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on a single day? Never mind the fact that we ar

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One other important point to note. Anyone can turn up an exchange in N/A and be supported by the same. So far, only the current cadre of IXP's have stepped up to help. US entities are instead busy acquiring meet- me rooms to further box us all in even more. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/arc

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

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Re: common method to count traffic volume on IX

> But isn't this all just neo-colonialism? Establish a market in the colony, > but ensure through restrictive trade practices that all trade routes lead > back via the mother country. > > Or can I buy myself connectivity to AMS-IX Amsterdam when i'm present at the > LINX Harare exchange? Ther

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On 19 Sep 2013, at 12:32, Niels Bakker wrote: > I know you're a busy man so the tl;dr is that by encouraging local peering > more networks will start to peer, and by partnering with one or more local > carriers those new networks as well as established players in those markets > can connect t

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* n...@foobar.org (Nick Hilliard) [Thu 19 Sep 2013, 01:38 CEST]: On 18/09/2013 23:55, Niels Bakker wrote: Ding ding ding! And that's why honest IXPs graph both, to show that they have no packet loss on their inter-switch links. If in > out, it's not necessarily inter-switch packet loss. The d

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