verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Gordon Cook

Dear NANOG

The Ecuadoran government has via the FLOK society hired Michel Bauwens of the 
P2p foundation to lead a two year long efforts to revision the ecudoran economy 
along the lines of a commons oriented collaborative society.  I am very 
interested in the program yet i have NEVER been able to connect to their web 
site.   At the end of two hours of trouble shooting with apple i was advised to 
call verizon.  I am a FiOS customer on a two year contact.  The traceroute 
below confirmed that the fault is in verizons network.  The verizon tech agreed 
otherwise i never would have gotten the trouble ticket

my verizon trouble ticket is NJ DQ04PWR9.

Can someone tell me what number to call to pursue resolution of this trouble 
ticket?

as of 12:04 eastern time i still cannot connect

24 hours was the promise
14 of the 24 have elapsed

 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms  17.508 ms  
 7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms !N *  
 8.846 ms !N
 
 
 
 Traceroute has started…
 
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.622 ms  0.305 ms  0.361 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  6.633 ms  4.892 ms  
 4.809 ms
  3  * * *
  4  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  10.441 ms !N * *
  5  * * *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.932 ms !N * *
  7  * * *
  8  * * *
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.765 ms !N * *
 12  * * *
 13  * * *=


Lookup has started…

Trying floksociety.org
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13700
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;floksociety.org.  INANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
floksociety.org.   600  INA 200.10.150.169
floksociety.org.   3600INMX  10 mail.floksociety.org.
floksociety.org.   3600INNS   ns57.domaincontrol.com.
floksociety.org.   3600INNS   ns58.domaincontrol.com.
floksociety.org.   3600INSOAns57.domaincontrol.com. 
dns.jomax.net. 2013092400 28800 7200 604800 600

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RE: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Matthew Huff
My traceroute goes through, but we don't go through Verizon. However, the web 
server is returning an error that it is unavailable. It's possible that the 
destination web server has a geo location plug in that stops access from 
foreign locations, or that their server is down. 



[root@lancaster ~]# traceroute -I 200.10.150.169   
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  129.77.108.252 (129.77.108.252)  0.345 ms  0.384 ms  0.442 ms
 2  switch-user1.ox.com (129.77.154.253)  0.408 ms  0.523 ms  0.585 ms
 3  rtr-inet2.ox.com (129.77.1.252)  3.394 ms  3.437 ms  3.464 ms
 4  129.77.3.254 (129.77.3.254)  0.515 ms  0.517 ms  0.541 ms
 5  189d20f9.cst.lightpath.net (24.157.32.249)  4.909 ms  4.923 ms  4.922 ms
 6  18267502.cst.lightpath.net (24.38.117.2)  7.318 ms  9.900 ms  9.889 ms
 7   (69.74.203.201)  9.877 ms  9.444 ms  9.434 ms
 8  * * *
 9  adsl-065-015-003-181.sip.mia.bellsouth.net (65.15.3.181)  9.455 ms * *
10  * * *
11  xe-9-1-2.edge2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.31.45.173)  8.378 ms  14.395 ms  
14.244 ms
12  ae-32-52.ebr2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.69.156.62)  39.992 ms  42.318 ms  
42.303 ms
13  ae-4-4.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.101)  42.283 ms  42.284 ms  
42.280 ms
14  ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.146)  50.599 ms  50.594 ms  
50.586 ms
15  ae-61-61.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.129)  40.769 ms  43.276 ms *
16  ae-2-2.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.132.85)  43.293 ms  39.230 ms  38.957 
ms
17  ae-73-73.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.254)  38.942 ms  38.942 ms  
38.501 ms
18  ae-2-2.ebr2.miami1.level3.net (4.69.140.141)  39.404 ms  37.772 ms  37.487 
ms
19  ae-2-52.edge1.Miami2.Level3.net (4.69.138.107)  50.685 ms  50.674 ms  
50.568 ms
20  telefonica.edge1.miami2.level3.net (4.71.212.118)  62.446 ms  60.038 ms  
59.416 ms
21  176.52.251.189 (176.52.251.189)  57.850 ms  58.637 ms  58.541 ms
22  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  94.381 ms  97.548 ms  99.258 ms
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  118.811 ms  118.803 ms  
118.808 ms
27  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  98.612 ms  98.589 ms  
98.605 ms
28  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  98.534 ms  98.564 ms  98.505 ms

root@newton dig +short www.floksociety.org.
200.10.150.169

root@newton telnet 200.10.150.169 80
Trying 200.10.150.169...
Connected to 200.10.150.169.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
Server: Varnish
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Retry-After: 5
Content-Length: 418
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:12:33 GMT
Connection: close


?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html
  head
title503 Service Unavailable/title
  /head
  body
h1Error 503 Service Unavailable/h1
pService Unavailable/p
h3Guru Meditation:/h3
pXID: 477990820/p
hr
pVarnish cache server/p
  /body
/html
Connection to 200.10.150.169 closed by foreign host.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gordon Cook [mailto:c...@cookreport.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:10 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org list
 Subject: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking 
 FLOKsociety.org by
 accident or on purpose?
 
 
 Dear NANOG
 
 The Ecuadoran government has via the FLOK society hired Michel Bauwens of the 
 P2p
 foundation to lead a two year long efforts to revision the ecudoran economy 
 along the
 lines of a commons oriented collaborative society.  I am very interested in 
 the program
 yet i have NEVER been able to connect to their web site.   At the end of two 
 hours of
 trouble shooting with apple i was advised to call verizon.  I am a FiOS 
 customer on a two
 year contact.  The traceroute below confirmed that the fault is in verizons 
 network.  The
 verizon tech agreed otherwise i never would have gotten the trouble ticket
 
 my verizon trouble ticket is NJ DQ04PWR9.
 
 Can someone tell me what number to call to pursue resolution of this trouble 
 ticket?
 
 as of 12:04 eastern time i still cannot connect
 
 24 hours was the promise
 14 of the 24 have elapsed
 
  traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms  17.508 
  ms  7.316 ms
   3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms !N *
   4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101 ms !N
   5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms !N *
   6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms !N *  
  8.846 ms !N
 
 
 
  Traceroute has started...
 
  traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.622 ms  0.305 ms  0.361 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  6.633 ms  

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Brandon Galbraith
Site appears up and available, over Comcast Business fiber and Cogent from
Chicago (using Chrome 28).


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com wrote:

 My traceroute goes through, but we don't go through Verizon. However, the
 web server is returning an error that it is unavailable. It's possible that
 the destination web server has a geo location plug in that stops access
 from foreign locations, or that their server is down.



 [root@lancaster ~]# traceroute -I 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  129.77.108.252 (129.77.108.252)  0.345 ms  0.384 ms  0.442 ms
  2  switch-user1.ox.com (129.77.154.253)  0.408 ms  0.523 ms  0.585 ms
  3  rtr-inet2.ox.com (129.77.1.252)  3.394 ms  3.437 ms  3.464 ms
  4  129.77.3.254 (129.77.3.254)  0.515 ms  0.517 ms  0.541 ms
  5  189d20f9.cst.lightpath.net (24.157.32.249)  4.909 ms  4.923 ms  4.922
 ms
  6  18267502.cst.lightpath.net (24.38.117.2)  7.318 ms  9.900 ms  9.889 ms
  7   (69.74.203.201)  9.877 ms  9.444 ms  9.434 ms
  8  * * *
  9  adsl-065-015-003-181.sip.mia.bellsouth.net (65.15.3.181)  9.455 ms * *
 10  * * *
 11  xe-9-1-2.edge2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.31.45.173)  8.378 ms  14.395 ms
  14.244 ms
 12  ae-32-52.ebr2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.69.156.62)  39.992 ms  42.318 ms
  42.303 ms
 13  ae-4-4.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.101)  42.283 ms  42.284
 ms  42.280 ms
 14  ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.146)  50.599 ms
  50.594 ms  50.586 ms
 15  ae-61-61.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.129)  40.769 ms
  43.276 ms *
 16  ae-2-2.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.132.85)  43.293 ms  39.230 ms
  38.957 ms
 17  ae-73-73.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.254)  38.942 ms  38.942
 ms  38.501 ms
 18  ae-2-2.ebr2.miami1.level3.net (4.69.140.141)  39.404 ms  37.772 ms
  37.487 ms
 19  ae-2-52.edge1.Miami2.Level3.net (4.69.138.107)  50.685 ms  50.674 ms
  50.568 ms
 20  telefonica.edge1.miami2.level3.net (4.71.212.118)  62.446 ms  60.038
 ms  59.416 ms
 21  176.52.251.189 (176.52.251.189)  57.850 ms  58.637 ms  58.541 ms
 22  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  94.381 ms  97.548 ms  99.258 ms
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  118.811 ms  118.803
 ms  118.808 ms
 27  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  98.612 ms  98.589 ms
  98.605 ms
 28  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  98.534 ms  98.564 ms  98.505 ms

 root@newton dig +short www.floksociety.org.
 200.10.150.169

 root@newton telnet 200.10.150.169 80
 Trying 200.10.150.169...
 Connected to 200.10.150.169.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 GET / HTTP/1.0

 HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
 Server: Varnish
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
 Retry-After: 5
 Content-Length: 418
 Accept-Ranges: bytes
 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:12:33 GMT
 Connection: close


 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
 html
   head
 title503 Service Unavailable/title
   /head
   body
 h1Error 503 Service Unavailable/h1
 pService Unavailable/p
 h3Guru Meditation:/h3
 pXID: 477990820/p
 hr
 pVarnish cache server/p
   /body
 /html
 Connection to 200.10.150.169 closed by foreign host.

  -Original Message-
  From: Gordon Cook [mailto:c...@cookreport.com]
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:10 PM
  To: nanog@nanog.org list
  Subject: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking
 FLOKsociety.org by
  accident or on purpose?
 
 
  Dear NANOG
 
  The Ecuadoran government has via the FLOK society hired Michel Bauwens
 of the P2p
  foundation to lead a two year long efforts to revision the ecudoran
 economy along the
  lines of a commons oriented collaborative society.  I am very interested
 in the program
  yet i have NEVER been able to connect to their web site.   At the end of
 two hours of
  trouble shooting with apple i was advised to call verizon.  I am a FiOS
 customer on a two
  year contact.  The traceroute below confirmed that the fault is in
 verizons network.  The
  verizon tech agreed otherwise i never would have gotten the trouble
 ticket
 
  my verizon trouble ticket is NJ DQ04PWR9.
 
  Can someone tell me what number to call to pursue resolution of this
 trouble ticket?
 
  as of 12:04 eastern time i still cannot connect
 
  24 hours was the promise
  14 of the 24 have elapsed
 
   traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
  17.508 ms  7.316 ms
3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482
 ms !N *
4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)
  7.101 ms !N
5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239
 ms !N *
6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms  17.508 ms 
  7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms !N *  
 8.846 ms !N

Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
1.595 ms  1.562 ms
 2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N * *

Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
network path is really slow and really long.

The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
 2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
 3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424 ms
 4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms  9.140 ms
 5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
ms  8.929 ms
 6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
 7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
 8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
52.415 ms  52.421 ms
 9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
60.397 ms  60.378 ms
10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
ms  58.392 ms
11  * * *
12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms  47.435 ms
13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
125.888 ms
14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
 67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
141.873 ms
15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
(176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
120.967 ms  115.040 ms
21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
125.164 ms  119.520 ms
22  * * *
23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms





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Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Chris Marget
200.10.150.169 is reachable from AS2828 and from AS20115, but not from
AS22394 (Verizon Wireless)


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Brandon Galbraith 
brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Site appears up and available, over Comcast Business fiber and Cogent from
 Chicago (using Chrome 28).


 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com wrote:

  My traceroute goes through, but we don't go through Verizon. However, the
  web server is returning an error that it is unavailable. It's possible
 that
  the destination web server has a geo location plug in that stops access
  from foreign locations, or that their server is down.
 
 
 
  [root@lancaster ~]# traceroute -I 200.10.150.169
  traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
   1  129.77.108.252 (129.77.108.252)  0.345 ms  0.384 ms  0.442 ms
   2  switch-user1.ox.com (129.77.154.253)  0.408 ms  0.523 ms  0.585 ms
   3  rtr-inet2.ox.com (129.77.1.252)  3.394 ms  3.437 ms  3.464 ms
   4  129.77.3.254 (129.77.3.254)  0.515 ms  0.517 ms  0.541 ms
   5  189d20f9.cst.lightpath.net (24.157.32.249)  4.909 ms  4.923 ms
  4.922
  ms
   6  18267502.cst.lightpath.net (24.38.117.2)  7.318 ms  9.900 ms  9.889
 ms
   7   (69.74.203.201)  9.877 ms  9.444 ms  9.434 ms
   8  * * *
   9  adsl-065-015-003-181.sip.mia.bellsouth.net (65.15.3.181)  9.455 ms
 * *
  10  * * *
  11  xe-9-1-2.edge2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.31.45.173)  8.378 ms  14.395 ms
   14.244 ms
  12  ae-32-52.ebr2.Newark1.Level3.net (4.69.156.62)  39.992 ms  42.318 ms
   42.303 ms
  13  ae-4-4.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.132.101)  42.283 ms  42.284
  ms  42.280 ms
  14  ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.146)  50.599 ms
   50.594 ms  50.586 ms
  15  ae-61-61.ebr1.washington1.level3.net (4.69.134.129)  40.769 ms
   43.276 ms *
  16  ae-2-2.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.132.85)  43.293 ms  39.230 ms
   38.957 ms
  17  ae-73-73.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.254)  38.942 ms  38.942
  ms  38.501 ms
  18  ae-2-2.ebr2.miami1.level3.net (4.69.140.141)  39.404 ms  37.772 ms
   37.487 ms
  19  ae-2-52.edge1.Miami2.Level3.net (4.69.138.107)  50.685 ms  50.674 ms
   50.568 ms
  20  telefonica.edge1.miami2.level3.net (4.71.212.118)  62.446 ms  60.038
  ms  59.416 ms
  21  176.52.251.189 (176.52.251.189)  57.850 ms  58.637 ms  58.541 ms
  22  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  94.381 ms  97.548 ms  99.258 ms
  23  * * *
  24  * * *
  25  * * *
  26  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  118.811 ms  118.803
  ms  118.808 ms
  27  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  98.612 ms  98.589
 ms
   98.605 ms
  28  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  98.534 ms  98.564 ms  98.505 ms
 
  root@newton dig +short www.floksociety.org.
  200.10.150.169
 
  root@newton telnet 200.10.150.169 80
  Trying 200.10.150.169...
  Connected to 200.10.150.169.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  GET / HTTP/1.0
 
  HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
  Server: Varnish
  Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
  Retry-After: 5
  Content-Length: 418
  Accept-Ranges: bytes
  Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:12:33 GMT
  Connection: close
 
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
  !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
  html
head
  title503 Service Unavailable/title
/head
body
  h1Error 503 Service Unavailable/h1
  pService Unavailable/p
  h3Guru Meditation:/h3
  pXID: 477990820/p
  hr
  pVarnish cache server/p
/body
  /html
  Connection to 200.10.150.169 closed by foreign host.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Gordon Cook [mailto:c...@cookreport.com]
   Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:10 PM
   To: nanog@nanog.org list
   Subject: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking
  FLOKsociety.org by
   accident or on purpose?
  
  
   Dear NANOG
  
   The Ecuadoran government has via the FLOK society hired Michel Bauwens
  of the P2p
   foundation to lead a two year long efforts to revision the ecudoran
  economy along the
   lines of a commons oriented collaborative society.  I am very
 interested
  in the program
   yet i have NEVER been able to connect to their web site.   At the end
 of
  two hours of
   trouble shooting with apple i was advised to call verizon.  I am a FiOS
  customer on a two
   year contact.  The traceroute below confirmed that the fault is in
  verizons network.  The
   verizon tech agreed otherwise i never would have gotten the trouble
  ticket
  
   my verizon trouble ticket is NJ DQ04PWR9.
  
   Can someone tell me what number to call to pursue resolution of this
  trouble ticket?
  
   as of 12:04 eastern time i still cannot connect
  
   24 hours was the promise
   14 of the 24 have elapsed
  
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
  packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
 2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
   17.508 ms  7.316 ms
   

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Gordon Cook
Thank you Bill

extremely helpful

if via FiOS from DC you cannot get through does his look like an intentional 
move by verizobn to black hole this site

how to determine that?

would like to be sure before i start raising hell elsewhere


I have tried to connect all week long never once succeeded.

advise??

any verizon people here willing to help?
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:30 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
 2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms  17.508 ms 
  7.316 ms
 3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms !N *
 4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101 ms !N
 5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms !N *
 6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms !N *  
 8.846 ms !N
 
 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:
 
 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
 2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N * *
 
 Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
 network path is really slow and really long.
 
 The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
 telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
 including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
 routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.
 
 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
 2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
 3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424 ms
 4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms  9.140 ms
 5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
 ms  8.929 ms
 6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
 7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
 8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
 9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
 ms  58.392 ms
 11  * * *
 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms  47.435 
 ms
 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
 Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
 125.888 ms
 14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
 67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
 Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
 141.873 ms
 15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
 62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
 (176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
 16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
 120.967 ms  115.040 ms
 21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
 125.164 ms  119.520 ms
 22  * * *
 23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/
 Falls Church, VA 22042-3004




Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Miles Fidelman

Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 
ms  7.304 ms

 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C

But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up 
- at least to a text browser (Lynx).


Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).

Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?


William Herrin wrote:

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:

traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms  17.508 ms  
7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms !N *  
8.846 ms !N

Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N * *

Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
network path is really slow and really long.

The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424 ms
  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms  9.140 ms
  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
ms  8.929 ms
  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
52.415 ms  52.421 ms
  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
60.397 ms  60.378 ms
10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
ms  58.392 ms
11  * * *
12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms  47.435 ms
13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
125.888 ms
14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
  67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
141.873 ms
15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
(176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
120.967 ms  115.040 ms
21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
125.164 ms  119.520 ms
22  * * *
23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms








--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra




Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
My mistake - cell network is also blocked.  Stupid autocorrect changed 
floksociety to folksociety. Sigh  Other info is correct.


Miles Fidelman wrote:

Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte 
packets

 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 
ms  7.304 ms

 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C

But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is 
up - at least to a text browser (Lynx).


Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).

Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?


William Herrin wrote:
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com 
wrote:
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 
byte packets

  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1) 36.778 ms  
17.508 ms  7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  
6.482 ms !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  
7.101 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  
9.239 ms !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 
ms !N *  8.846 ms !N

Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
packets

  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250) 5.321 ms 
!N * *


Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
network path is really slow and really long.

The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte 
packets

  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms 0.569 ms
  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  
9.424 ms
  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms 9.226 ms  
9.140 ms

  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms 9.019
ms  8.929 ms
  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66) 58.454 ms
52.415 ms  52.421 ms
  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
60.397 ms  60.378 ms
10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms 58.407
ms  58.392 ms
11  * * *
12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms 49.080 ms  
47.435 ms

13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
125.888 ms
14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
  67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
141.873 ms
15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
(176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms 117.934 ms
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
120.967 ms  115.040 ms
21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
125.164 ms  119.520 ms
22  * * *
23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms 244.845 ms











--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra




Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
 new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
  1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
  2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 ms
 7.304 ms
  3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C

 But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up - at
 least to a text browser (Lynx).

 Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).

 Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?



 William Herrin wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:

 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
   3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
 !N *
   4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
 ms !N
   5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
 !N *
   6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 ms !N

 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
   1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
   2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N
 * *

 Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
 network path is really slow and really long.

 The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
 telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
 including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
 routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.

 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
   2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
   3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424
 ms
   4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms
 9.140 ms
   5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
 ms  8.929 ms
   6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
   7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
   8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
   9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
 ms  58.392 ms
 11  * * *
 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms
 47.435 ms
 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
 Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
 125.888 ms
 14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
   67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
 Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
 141.873 ms
 15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
 62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
 (176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
 16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
 120.967 ms  115.040 ms
 21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
 125.164 ms  119.520 ms
 22  * * *
 23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms







 --
 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
 In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra





Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
esceula seems to announce a slew of /24's...

28027   | 200.10.149.0/24 | Escuela Superior Politecnica del Litoral
28027   | 200.10.150.0/24 | Escuela Superior Politecnica del Litoral
28027   | 200.10.151.0/24 | Escuela Superior Politecnica del Litoral

but not the covering /22:
200.10.148/22

looking at routeviews (who has a 701 peer):
route-viewssho ip bgp summ | in 157.130
157.130.10.233  4701 12266262 1198223 96890482000 3w2d
  458803
route-views

route-viewssho ip bgp neighbors 157.130.10.233 paths  | in 28027
0x511FB188   11  0 701 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956
12956 19169 27947 28027 i
0x47A5A4C02  0 701 3257 3257 19169 27947 28027 i


seems that not all of  28027's routes are heard by 701...
route-viewssho ip bgp neighbors 157.130.10.233 routes | in 28027
*  190.15.129.0/24  157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  192.188.59.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 3257
3257 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.9.176.0  157.130.10.233 0 701 3257
3257 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.0.0/20   157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.16.0/22  157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.20.0/23  157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.22.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.23.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.24.0/22  157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.28.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.29.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.30.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
*  200.126.31.0 157.130.10.233 0 701 12956
12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 i
route-views

this doesn't include the 200.10.148.0/22 networks at all though. I'd
look suspiciously at:
  aut-num:as12956
as-name:Telefonica
descr:  Telefonica Backbone Autonomous System
descr:  Telefonica Wholesale Network
remarks:===
remarks:http://www.telefonica-wholesale.com
remarks:=

who seems to be prepending like crazy...

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
 seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
 in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
 mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
 new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
  1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
  2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 ms
 7.304 ms
  3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C

 But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up - at
 least to a text browser (Lynx).

 Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).

 Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?



 William Herrin wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:

 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
   3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
 !N *
   4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
 ms !N
   5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
 !N *
   6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 ms !N

 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
   1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
   2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N
 * *

 Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
 network path is really slow and really long.

 The border is 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Gordon Cook
Hi chris

really appreciate the help from ALL you guys

does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer  may 
mean a config problem for a small bloc and not something intentional??
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
 seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
 in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.
 
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
 mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
 new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 ms
 7.304 ms
 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C
 
 But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up - at
 least to a text browser (Lynx).
 
 Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).
 
 Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?
 
 
 
 William Herrin wrote:
 
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
 !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
 !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 ms !N
 
 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:
 
 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N
 * *
 
 Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
 network path is really slow and really long.
 
 The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
 telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
 including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
 routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.
 
 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424
 ms
  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms
 9.140 ms
  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
 ms  8.929 ms
  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
 ms  58.392 ms
 11  * * *
 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms
 47.435 ms
 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
 Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
 125.888 ms
 14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.119.233)
  67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
 Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
 141.873 ms
 15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
 62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
 (176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
 16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
 120.967 ms  115.040 ms
 21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
 125.164 ms  119.520 ms
 22  * * *
 23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845 ms
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 if via FiOS from DC you cannot get through does his look like an intentional 
 move by verizobn to black hole this site
 how to determine that?
 would like to be sure before i start raising hell elsewhere

I would expect that they're just not receiving the BGP advertisement
for 200.10.150.0/24 from telefonica-wholesale.net. No way to know from
the endpoints whether that's because Telefonica isn't sending or
because Verizon is rejecting.

Either way, it doesn't seem to be black holed. Black holed is when you
advertise a route to a destination and then dump the packets.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 Hi chris

 really appreciate the help from ALL you guys

sure thing.

 does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer  may 
 mean a config problem for a small bloc and not something intentional??

that's probably hard to say... I do know that:

 5  0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30)  6.457 ms  6.821 ms
0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  5.932 ms
 6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  7.182 ms  5.433
ms  5.431 ms
 7  Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145)
47.271 ms  48.381 ms Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
(94.142.126.182)  50.290 ms


telefonica is a 'customer' not a 'peer' of 701, based on their
connectivity. This means that telefonica has to tell 701: Yo, I need
you to accept routes for x, y, z, ktnxbi!'

knowing the normal (well, 5yrs ago) config for customers of 701, I
don't expect there'd be special handling of this prefix either... so I
suspect either no one told 701 to accept this, or telefonica pouched
it at the handoff :(

If they didn't do that, these routes wouldn't be accepted.
If telefonica botched some filter on their side (see the comment about
prepending).

It's fairly sure though that the prefix isn't 'blackholed'... since
it's everything in the /22 not just the local /32 or /24. Bill
Herrin's on target as well, it's really hard to say from here :)

-chris


 On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
 seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
 in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
 mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
 new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855 ms
 7.304 ms
 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C

 But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is up - at
 least to a text browser (Lynx).

 Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).

 Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?



 William Herrin wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:

 traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
 !N *
  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
 ms !N
  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
 !N *
  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 ms !N

 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N
 * *

 Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
 network path is really slow and really long.

 The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
 telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
 including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
 routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.

 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms  9.424
 ms
  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms
 9.140 ms
  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
 ms  8.929 ms
  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms  58.407
 ms  58.392 ms
 11  * * *
 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms
 47.435 ms
 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
 Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Bryan Tong
Working here on Bresnan (charter)

root@hq:~# traceroute floksociety.org
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  cacco002dr9-GE-1-0-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (69.146.239.57)  38.721 ms
 39.799 ms  39.899 m   s
 3  host-72-175-111-198.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net (72.175.111.198)  26.722
ms  27.671 ms  2   7.771 ms
 4  chywyaT1cr5-XE-5-2-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.110.135)  27.791 ms
 27.818 ms  27.820ms
 5  seawafh2cr5-XE-5-1-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.111.166)  67.666 ms
 68.616 ms  68.641ms
 6  seawafh1tr5-XE-2-0-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.110.68)  51.856 ms
 61.108 ms  61.768 m   s
 7  12.90.77.21 (12.90.77.21)  65.384 ms  66.327 ms  66.448 ms
 8  cr2.st6wa.ip.att.net (12.123.46.130)  122.440 ms  112.765 ms  111.808 ms
 9  cr2.dvmco.ip.att.net (12.122.1.77)  111.733 ms  102.272 ms  98.744 ms
10  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.31.89)  105.493 ms  106.421 ms  105.106 ms
11  dlstx02jt.ip.att.net (12.122.214.249)  104.780 ms  101.914 ms  106.405
ms
12  213.140.53.61 (213.140.53.61)  103.208 ms 192.205.35.250
(192.205.35.250)  100.279 ms 2   13.140.53.61 (213.140.53.61)
 121.303 ms
13  Te0-5-0-6-grtmiabr5.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.58)
 144.127 ms Xe8-0-2-0-
grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(94.142.119.38)  159.790 ms
Xe3-1-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.
telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.134)  139.640 ms
14  Te0-2-0-4-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.5)
 138.665 ms Te0-1-0-0-g
rtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(213.140.37.77)  139.681 ms
Xe7-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.t
elefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.154)  145.648 ms
15  176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  163.222 ms 176.52.251.201
(176.52.251.201)  143.164 ms176.52.249.241 (176.52.249.241)
 140.896 ms
16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  184.038 ms  188.723 ms  181.953 ms
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  189.490 ms  188.537 ms
 188.500 ms
21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  190.366 ms  188.294 ms
 192.845 ms
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *


Traceroute black holes but the site works.

Site works on VZW in Colorado.

Cheers


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
  Hi chris
 
  really appreciate the help from ALL you guys

 sure thing.

  does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer
  may mean a config problem for a small bloc and not something intentional??

 that's probably hard to say... I do know that:

  5  0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30)  6.457 ms  6.821 ms
 0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  5.932 ms
  6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  7.182 ms  5.433
 ms  5.431 ms
  7  Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145)
 47.271 ms  48.381 ms Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
 (94.142.126.182)  50.290 ms


 telefonica is a 'customer' not a 'peer' of 701, based on their
 connectivity. This means that telefonica has to tell 701: Yo, I need
 you to accept routes for x, y, z, ktnxbi!'

 knowing the normal (well, 5yrs ago) config for customers of 701, I
 don't expect there'd be special handling of this prefix either... so I
 suspect either no one told 701 to accept this, or telefonica pouched
 it at the handoff :(

 If they didn't do that, these routes wouldn't be accepted.
 If telefonica botched some filter on their side (see the comment about
 prepending).

 It's fairly sure though that the prefix isn't 'blackholed'... since
 it's everything in the /22 not just the local /32 or /24. Bill
 Herrin's on target as well, it's really hard to say from here :)

 -chris

 
  On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
  seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
  in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.
 
  On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
  mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
  Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
  new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
  traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte
 packets
  1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
  2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855
 ms
  7.304 ms
  3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C
 
  But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is
 up - at
  least to a text browser (Lynx).
 
  Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).
 
  Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?
 
 
 
  William Herrin wrote:
 
  On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com
 wrote:
 
  traceroute to 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Bryan Tong cont...@nullivex.com wrote:

 Site works on VZW in Colorado.

vzw gets transit from places OTHER than 701 in a bunch of places...



Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Joly MacFie
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/floksociety.org says it's up. My VZ
dsl says no.




On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Bryan Tong cont...@nullivex.com wrote:

  Site works on VZW in Colorado.

 vzw gets transit from places OTHER than 701 in a bunch of places...




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Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Fri, 4 Oct 2013, Joly MacFie wrote:


http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/floksociety.org says it's up. My VZ
dsl says no.


I'm guessing either VZ is not carrying a default inside their network, or 
they are propagating whatever blackhole might exist.


From my FIOS connection at home, I never reach anything that looks like a 
router that I would expect to have a complete view of the Internet routing 
table.


streiner@whammy ~ $ traceroute www.floksociety.org
traceroute to www.floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte 
packets

 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.815 ms  0.800 ms  0.789 ms
 2  L300.PITBPA-VFTTP-29.verizon-gni.net (173.75.39.1)  4.095 ms  4.094 ms 
4.720 ms

 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * G0-6-0-6.PITBPA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.168.90)  11.303 ms 
!N





Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-10-04 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG,
TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net.

If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith pfsi...@gmail.com.

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 05 Oct, 2013

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  468683
Prefixes after maximum aggregation:  189054
Deaggregation factor:  2.48
Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 232434
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 45122
Prefixes per ASN: 10.39
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   35242
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   16252
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:5902
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:166
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   4.6
Max AS path length visible:  30
Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 36992)  22
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:   338
Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 189
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:   5144
Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:3978
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:   12238
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:1
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:665
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2647718900
Equivalent to 157 /8s, 208 /16s and 251 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   71.5
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   71.5
Percentage of available address space allocated:  100.0
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   95.0
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  164010

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:   26
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   33829
APNIC Deaggregation factor:3.28
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:  113153
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:46794
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4872
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   23.23
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   1218
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:821
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:4.6
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 21
Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table:692
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  728412160
Equivalent to 43 /8s, 106 /16s and 176 /24s
Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 85.1

APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319,
   58368-59391, 63488-63999, 131072-133631
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  36/8,  39/8,  42/8,  43/8,
49/8,  58/8,  59/8,  60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 103/8,
   106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8,
   116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8,
   123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8,
   163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8,
   203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8,
   222/8, 223/8,

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:162812
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:81536
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.00
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   163305
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 75874
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:15904
ARIN Prefixes per ASN:10.27
ARIN 

Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Mike Jackson
The below information is taken from an internal router directly connected
to 701
==

CORE-R1#show ip bgp 200.10.150.169
BGP routing table entry for 200.10.150.0/24, version 46722748
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
  Not advertised to any peer
  701 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027
x.x.x.x from x.x.x.x (y.y.y.y)
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best


Tracing the route to 200.10.150.169
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 ..
  2 0.ge-11-1-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.4.250) [AS 701] 0 msec 0 msec 0
msec
  3 0.xe-9-1-0.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.14) [AS 701] 20 msec 20 msec
20 msec
  4 0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30) [AS 701] 20 msec
0.xe-9-0-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.18) [AS 701] 20 msec
0.xe-11-0-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.33.165) [AS 701] 20 msec
  5 telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114) [AS 701] 20 msec 20
msec 20 msec
  6 Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.182) [AS
12956] 60 msec
Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145) [AS
12956] 64 msec 60 msec
  7 176.52.249.245 60 msec
176.52.251.193 64 msec
Xe8-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.185) [AS
12956] 60 msec
  8 176.52.252.66 104 msec 104 msec 104 msec
  9  *  *  *
 10  *  *  *
 11  *  *  *
 12 host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193) [AS 27947] [MPLS: Label
5539 Exp 0] 104 msec 104 msec 104 msec
 13 host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42) [AS 27947] 108 msec 104
msec 108 msec
 14  *  *  *
 15  *  *  *
 16  *  *  *
 17  *  *  *
 18  *  *  *
 19  *  *  *
 20  *  *  *
 21  *  *  *
 22  *  *  *
 23  *  *  *
 24  *  *  *
 25  *  *  *
 26  *  *  *
 27  *  *  *
 28  *  *  *
 29  *  *  *
 30  *  *  *



On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:


 Dear NANOG

 The Ecuadoran government has via the FLOK society hired Michel Bauwens of
 the P2p foundation to lead a two year long efforts to revision the ecudoran
 economy along the lines of a commons oriented collaborative society.  I am
 very interested in the program yet i have NEVER been able to connect to
 their web site.   At the end of two hours of trouble shooting with apple i
 was advised to call verizon.  I am a FiOS customer on a two year contact.
  The traceroute below confirmed that the fault is in verizons network.  The
 verizon tech agreed otherwise i never would have gotten the trouble ticket

 my verizon trouble ticket is NJ DQ04PWR9.

 Can someone tell me what number to call to pursue resolution of this
 trouble ticket?

 as of 12:04 eastern time i still cannot connect

 24 hours was the promise
 14 of the 24 have elapsed

  traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
  17.508 ms  7.316 ms
   3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.482 ms
 !N *
   4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  7.101
 ms !N
   5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.239 ms
 !N *
   6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823 ms
 !N *  8.846 ms !N
 
 
 
  Traceroute has started…
 
  traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72 byte
 packets
   1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.622 ms  0.305 ms  0.361 ms
   2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  6.633 ms  4.892
 ms  4.809 ms
   3  * * *
   4  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  10.441 ms
 !N * *
   5  * * *
   6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.932 ms
 !N * *
   7  * * *
   8  * * *
   9  * * *
  10  * * *
  11  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  9.765 ms
 !N * *
  12  * * *
  13  * * *=


 Lookup has started…

 Trying floksociety.org
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13700
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;floksociety.org.  INANY

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 floksociety.org.   600  INA 200.10.150.169
 floksociety.org.   3600INMX  10
 mail.floksociety.org.
 floksociety.org.   3600INNS
 ns57.domaincontrol.com.
 floksociety.org.   3600INNS
 ns58.domaincontrol.com.
 floksociety.org.   3600INSOAns57.domaincontrol.com.
 dns.jomax.net. 2013092400 28800 7200 604800 600

 Received 174 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53 in 139 ms
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Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Henry Yen
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 12:30:01PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
 Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:
 
 traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
 traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N * *

A little earlier, both FiOS and a uunet/701 connection yielded '!N', but
as of this writing both paths are reaching that website.

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Level3 - AS3549 US IPv6 Routing

2013-10-04 Thread Adam Furman
I have noticed for the last couple of weeks that Level3 is routing IPV6
traffic to Global Crossing AS via Seattle.  Seeing it from multiple
connection's we have in the US plus Level3 Looking Glass also shows the
routes learned in Seattle from DC. I can't see them only peering in
Seattle from US location's, Europe is different seems to be routing
correctly from what I see on the looking glass.

Route results for 2001:450::/32 from Washington, DC

BGP routing table entry for 2001:450::/32
Paths: (2 available, best #1)
  3549, (aggregated by 3549 err41.sea1.gblx.mgmt)
  AS-path translation: { GBLX }
2001:1900::3:91 (metric 7502)
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate, best
  Community: 3549:5001 3549:30840
  Originator: edge1.Seattle3
  3549, (aggregated by 3549 err41.sea1.gblx.mgmt)
  AS-path translation: { GBLX }
2001:1900::3:91 (metric 7502)
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
  Community: 3549:5001 3549:30840
  Originator: edge1.Seattle3

Route results for 2001:450::/32 from Frankfurt, Germany
BGP routing table entry for 2001:450::/32
Paths: (2 available, best #1)
  3549, (aggregated by 3549 err41.fra4.gblx.mgmt)
  AS-path translation: { GBLX }
2001:1900:2::3:8 (metric 40)
  Origin IGP, metric 10, localpref 86, valid, internal,
atomic-aggregate, best
  Community: Europe  Lclprf_86 Germany IPv6-valid Level3_Peer
Community_ERROR Frankfurt
  Originator: edge4.Frankfurt1
  3549, (aggregated by 3549 err41.fra4.gblx.mgmt)
  AS-path translation: { GBLX }
2001:1900:2::3:8 (metric 40)
  Origin IGP, metric 10, localpref 86, valid, internal,
atomic-aggregate
  Community: Europe  Lclprf_86 Germany IPv6-valid Level3_Peer
Community_ERROR Frankfurt
  Originator: edge4.Frankfurt1



Traceroute from one of my connections in DC.  Doesn't matter what I source
the route from.  I have also seen this to customers behind AS3549 too.

 4. vl-4081.edge2.washington1.level3  0.0% 71.6   1.6   1.6   1.6
 0.0
 5. vl-4061.car1.newyork2.level3.net  0.0% 76.9   7.5   6.9  10.6
 1.4
 6. vl-4081.car2.newyork2.level3.net  0.0% 77.0  41.0   7.0 158.2
61.0
 7. vl-4061.car1.chicago1.level3.net  0.0% 7   27.7  27.5  27.4  27.7
 0.1
 8. vl-4040.edge1.chicago2.level3.ne  0.0% 7   27.7  30.0  27.6  44.3
 6.3
 9. vl-4042.edge6.denver1.level3.net  0.0% 7   51.9  51.9  51.8  52.0
 0.1
10. vl-4060.car2.seattle1.level3.net  0.0% 6  186.2 119.0  78.5 186.2
51.6
11. 2001:1900:1b:1::9 0.0% 6   78.4  78.4  78.3  78.6
 0.1
12. 2001:450:2008:100::1350.0% 6   86.4  87.2  86.4  90.0
 1.4
13. 2001:450:2002:288::2  0.0% 6   85.2  85.3  85.1  85.5
 0.1


If I route this traffic via Telia it goes direct to Global Crossing's with
a much lower latency.  Has anyone else seen this issue with Level3?

Thanks,
Adam




It worked! Huge Thanks Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Gordon Cook
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Moore, Matthew S mscott.mo...@verizon.com wrote:

 Thanks eric...scott
 
 From: Sieg, Eric W
 Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 3:14 PM
 To: Christopher Morrow
 Cc: Moore, Matthew S; Gordon Cook; Young, David E
 Subject: RE: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking 
 FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
 
 Everything is complete, all associated prefix-lists for this customer have 
 been updated. 
  
 Thank you for choosing Verizon,
  
 Eric Sieg
 IP Non Managed Operations Support | IP/DNS/DNE Administration
 Tel: 248 728 5294 | Vnet: 443-5294
  
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 From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:01 PM
 To: Sieg, Eric W
 Cc: Moore, Matthew S; Gordon Cook; Young, David E
 Subject: Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking 
 FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
  
  
  
 
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  
  
 
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Sieg, Eric W eric.s...@verizon.com wrote:
 I’ll get it added to their other sites and follow up with them to let them 
 know.  Give me about 20.
  
  
 sweet, thanks!
  
 forgot, from a fios customer perspective:
  2  G0-9-4-6.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.183.118)  10.434 ms  6.308 
 ms  3.699 ms
  3  ae6-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.199.146)  5.45 ms 
 ae5-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.222)  3.375 ms 
 ae2-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.199.138)  4.592 ms
  4  0.ae4.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.8.125)  8.32 ms  3.457 ms  5.700 ms
  5  0.xe-9-3-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.34)  5.820 ms 
 0.xe-9-0-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.18)  7.311 ms 
 0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  6.568 ms
  6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  3.767 ms  4.74 ms  
 5.569 ms
  7  Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.182)  48.345 
 ms  46.997 ms 
 Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(94.142.123.145)  46.154 ms
  8  176.52.251.197 (176.52.251.197)  44.747 ms 176.52.251.189 
 (176.52.251.189)  74.746 ms 176.52.249.241 (176.52.249.241)  49.805 ms
  9  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  99.787 ms  98.471 ms  97.103 ms
 ^C
  
 looks like it works now.
  
  
 Thank you for choosing Verizon,
  
 Eric Sieg
 IP Non Managed Operations Support | IP/DNS/DNE Administration
 Tel: 248 728 5294 | Vnet: 443-5294
  
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 From: Moore, Matthew S 
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:43 PM
 To: Christopher Morrow; Gordon Cook
 Cc: Young, David E; Sieg, Eric W
 Subject: RE: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking 
 FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
  
 Hi Chris,
 
  
 
 Uncloaking. ;-)
 
  
 
 It does look as though it's a matter of an un-updated prefix-filter for 
 telefonica.  The existing filter allows a bunch of /24's
 
 close to the address in question but 200.10.150.0/24 is not among them, 
 whereas telefonica is announcing it to us. (shown, hidden, below)
 
  
 
 scottm@GW9.IAD8 show route receive-protocol bgp 152.179.50.114 hidden | 
 match 200.10.150
 
   200.10.150.0/24 152.179.50.114   0  12956 12956 
 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 I
 
  
 
 I added the filter, and I'm cc'ng Eric in Customer Support to let him know.  
 It will make sense to update it across all 12956 sessions, as I only did this 
 one… no longer hidden… 
  
 
  
 
 scottm@GW9.IAD8 show route receive-protocol bgp 152.179.50.114 | match 
 200.10.150
 
 * 200.10.150.0/24 152.179.50.114   0  12956 12956 
 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 27947 28027 I
 
  
 
  
 
 Regards...Scott
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:39 PM
 To: Gordon Cook
 Cc: Young, David E
 Subject: Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking 
 FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
 
  
 
 I always go with my standby: scott moore ... he can uncloak from bcc land if 
 he's able/willing/etc to help in this case.
 
  
 
 -chris
 
  
 
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gordon Cook c...@cookreport.com wrote:
 
  again thank you very very much.  I have to leave 

web site bug report

2013-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
as i get bounces from act...@nanog.org and all other similar contacts,
here we go

   
https://www.nanog.org/archives/presentations?k=0s=Douglas%20Maughanm=0a=search

gives me clickables to the 56 agenda.  but those clickables lead me to

https://www.nanog.org/meetings/56/agenda

which gives me

Page not found
The requested page /meetings/56/agenda could not be found.

sigh

randhy



Re: web site bug report

2013-10-04 Thread Betty Burke be...@nanog.org
Hi Randy:

We look into the situation now..  Very sorry for the error.

All best.
Betty



On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

 as i get bounces from act...@nanog.org and all other similar contacts,
 here we go


 https://www.nanog.org/archives/presentations?k=0s=Douglas%20Maughanm=0a=search

 gives me clickables to the 56 agenda.  but those clickables lead me to

 https://www.nanog.org/meetings/56/agenda

 which gives me

 Page not found
 The requested page /meetings/56/agenda could not be found.

 sigh

 randhy




-- 
Betty Burke
NANOG Executive Director
48377 Fremont Boulevard, Suite 117
Fremont, CA 94538
Tel: +1 510 492 4030


Re: web site bug report

2013-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
 We look into the situation now..  Very sorry for the error.

i demand a full refund!  :)



The Cidr Report

2013-10-04 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct  4 21:13:31 2013 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.

Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.

Recent Table History
Date  PrefixesCIDR Agg
27-09-13480420  271008
28-09-13480526  271503
29-09-13480781  271509
30-09-13480357  271325
01-10-13479734  271628
02-10-13480438  271524
03-10-13480524  271615
04-10-13479970  272934


AS Summary
 45275  Number of ASes in routing system
 18585  Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
  4174  Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS7029 : WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc
  118190016  Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street


Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as 
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').

 --- 04Oct13 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr  NetGain   % Gain   Description

Table 480818   273005   20781343.2%   All ASes

AS6389  3060   62 299898.0%   BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
   BellSouth.net Inc.
AS17974 2697  120 257795.6%   TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT
   Telekomunikasi Indonesia
AS28573 3361  867 249474.2%   NET Serviços de Comunicação
   S.A.
AS7029  4174 1867 230755.3%   WINDSTREAM - Windstream
   Communications Inc
AS4766  2945  954 199167.6%   KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS10620 2598 1030 156860.4%   Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS18566 2066  572 149472.3%   COVAD - Covad Communications
   Co.
AS36998 1864  375 148979.9%   SDN-MOBITEL
AS4323  2961 1538 142348.1%   TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
   inc.
AS7303  1724  466 125873.0%   Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS1785  2019  810 120959.9%   AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
   Communications, Inc.
AS4755  1769  585 118466.9%   TATACOMM-AS TATA
   Communications formerly VSNL
   is Leading ISP
AS7552  1195  145 105087.9%   VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel
   Corporation
AS18881 1463  438 102570.1%   Global Village Telecom
AS22561 1237  216 102182.5%   DIGITAL-TELEPORT - Digital
   Teleport Inc.
AS7545  2085 1222  86341.4%   TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Telecom
   Limited
AS22773 2058 1241  81739.7%   ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
   Cox Communications Inc.
AS18101  979  178  80181.8%   RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
   Reliance Communications
   Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI
AS4808  1191  403  78866.2%   CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
   network China169 Beijing
   Province Network
AS8402  1816 1040  77642.7%   CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom
AS11830  866  118  74886.4%   Instituto Costarricense de
   Electricidad y Telecom.
AS701   1517  793  72447.7%   UUNET - MCI Communications
   Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon
   Business
AS24560 1091  373  71865.8%   AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
   Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
   Services
AS8151  1345  633  71252.9%   Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS6983  1294  585  70954.8%   ITCDELTA - ITC^Deltacom
AS13977  851  146  70582.8%   CTELCO - FAIRPOINT
   COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
AS6147   799  108  69186.5%   Telefonica del Peru S.A.A.
AS855737   55  68292.5%   CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant
   Regional Communications, Inc.
AS7738   780  138  64282.3%   Telemar Norte Leste S.A.
AS17676  

BGP Update Report

2013-10-04 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report
Interval: 26-Sep-13 -to- 03-Oct-13 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS18881   69543  2.7%  47.6 -- Global Village Telecom
 2 - AS816368857  2.7% 177.5 -- METROTEL REDES S.A.
 3 - AS36998   47541  1.9%  25.5 -- SDN-MOBITEL
 4 - AS453847379  1.9%  18.9 -- ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education 
and Research Network Center
 5 - AS840245065  1.8%  22.5 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom
 6 - AS982938289  1.5%  36.0 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet 
Backbone
 7 - AS10620   29732  1.2%  14.5 -- Telmex Colombia S.A.
 8 - AS381628564  1.1%  47.4 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
 9 - AS28573   23905  0.9%   8.1 -- NET Serviços de Comunicação S.A.
10 - AS13118   22526  0.9% 479.3 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom
11 - AS31148   22155  0.9%  22.4 -- FREENET-AS Freenet Ltd.
12 - AS27738   18931  0.7%  32.8 -- Ecuadortelecom S.A.
13 - AS19886   17274  0.7%2879.0 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
14 - AS20473   16646  0.7% 110.2 -- AS-CHOOPA - Choopa, LLC
15 - AS815116096  0.6%  14.1 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V.
16 - AS477515943  0.6% 613.2 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms
17 - AS28509   15244  0.6%  73.6 -- Cablemas Telecomunicaciones SA 
de CV
18 - AS31252   13271  0.5%  53.9 -- STARNET-AS StarNet Moldova
19 - AS17974   11386  0.5%   4.9 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT 
Telekomunikasi Indonesia
20 - AS11976   11291  0.4% 171.1 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication 
International Inc.


TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS6629 8937  0.3%8937.0 -- NOAA-AS - NOAA
 2 - AS6174 7057  0.3%3528.5 -- SPRINTLINK8 - Sprint
 3 - AS324453006  0.1%3006.0 -- XHOP - XHOP LLC
 4 - AS373672990  0.1%2990.0 -- CALLKEY
 5 - AS19886   17274  0.7%2879.0 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
 6 - AS166085186  0.2%2593.0 -- KENTEC - Kentec Communications, 
Inc.
 7 - AS7202 8508  0.3%1701.6 -- FAMU - Florida A  M University
 8 - AS197792629  0.1%1314.5 -- 
 9 - AS335401071  0.0%1071.0 -- ALZHEI-ASN - Alzheimers Assoc.
10 - AS458081066  0.0%1066.0 -- UTP-MY Bandar Seri Iskandar
11 - AS22688 989  0.0% 989.0 -- DOLGENCORP - Dollar General 
Corporation
12 - AS23295 735  0.0% 735.0 -- EA-01 - Extend America
13 - AS325285861  0.2% 732.6 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
14 - AS486129554  0.4% 682.4 -- RTC-ORENBURG-AS CJSC 
Comstar-Regions
15 - AS477515943  0.6% 613.2 -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms
16 - AS322447321  0.3% 610.1 -- LIQUID-WEB-INC - Liquid Web, 
Inc.
17 - AS584521194  0.1% 597.0 -- ANTAMEDIAKOM-ID PT. Anta 
Mediakom
18 - AS22124  0.1% 657.0 -- CONTROLVM-MY ControlVM 
Technology
19 - AS558974680  0.2% 520.0 -- NIPPON-RAD Nippon RAD Inc.
20 - AS29052 506  0.0% 506.0 -- LYCOS-AS INFORM P. LYKOS A.E


TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 109.161.64.0/20   21880  0.8%   AS13118 -- ASN-YARTELECOM OJSC Rostelecom
 2 - 108.61.128.0/18   16207  0.6%   AS20473 -- AS-CHOOPA - Choopa, LLC
 3 - 92.246.207.0/249404  0.3%   AS48612 -- RTC-ORENBURG-AS CJSC 
Comstar-Regions
 4 - 192.58.232.0/248937  0.3%   AS6629  -- NOAA-AS - NOAA
 5 - 120.28.62.0/24 7831  0.3%   AS4775  -- GLOBE-TELECOM-AS Globe Telecoms
 7 - 67.210.190.0/235896  0.2%   AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication 
International Inc.
 8 - 115.170.128.0/17   5612  0.2%   AS4847  -- CNIX-AP China Networks 
Inter-Exchange
 9 - 67.210.188.0/234994  0.2%   AS11976 -- FIDN - Fidelity Communication 
International Inc.
10 - 69.38.178.0/24 4342  0.2%   AS19406 -- TWRS-MA - Towerstream I, Inc.
11 - 171.181.112.0/22   4318  0.2%   AS19886 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
12 - 171.181.116.0/23   4318  0.2%   AS19886 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
13 - 171.181.118.0/24   4318  0.2%   AS19886 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
14 - 171.181.120.0/24   4296  0.2%   AS19886 -- BOFABROKERDEALERSVCS - Bank of 
America
15 - 168.223.200.0/22   4251  0.2%   AS7202  -- FAMU - Florida A  M University
16 - 168.223.206.0/23   4245  0.2%   AS7202  -- FAMU - Florida A  M University
17 - 62.84.76.0/24  4215  0.2%   AS42334 -- BBP-AS Broadband Plus s.a.l.
18 - 2.93.235.0/24  3970  0.1%   AS8402  -- CORBINA-AS OJSC Vimpelcom
19 - 201.33.145.0/243561  0.1%   AS11993 -- BANCO DO BRASIL S.A.
20 - 206.105.75.0/243529  0.1%   AS6174  -- 

Re: web site bug report

2013-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
 Thanks very much for alerting us to this issue, and apologies for the 
 inconvenience.
 When search was done by name it was throwing an error on the agenda path 
 omitting 'nanog' from the path, hence the 404 page.
 This is now fixed. Kindly let us know if you run into any more issues 
 with this.

no biggie.  bugs happen.  of course, i never have any :)

randy



Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

2013-10-04 Thread Miles Fidelman

Seems to be working now from Verizon FIOS in Boston area.

Henry Yen wrote:

On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 12:30:01PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:

Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:

traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
1.595 ms  1.562 ms
  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321 ms !N * *

A little earlier, both FiOS and a uunet/701 connection yielded '!N', but
as of this writing both paths are reaching that website.




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