Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread Sam Moats
I expect this from the doofus in $pain_in_the_butt_county but I am surprised when I see this behavior from large companies and I really don't understand it. Having a working abuse/response system is beneficial to us all including the gorillas. There is a cost to us if we're spending expensive

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread Paul Bennett
I can't speak directly for them, as I'm not an official company spokesperson, but this conversation has got my dander up enough that I can't keep my big mouth shut. I know of at least one 500 pound gorilla (with zillions of retail customers, and their share of 500 pound gorillas as customers (and

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread Sam Moats
There are good guys out there :-), and some are gorilla sized thats why I obfuscated the names in my response. No offense intended to the goood ones. Sam Moats On 2013-11-13 05:48, Paul Bennett wrote: I can't speak directly for them, as I'm not an official company spokesperson, but this

IP transit providers @ 625 RL

2013-11-13 Thread A Mekkaoui
Hi, anyone knows about carrier companies which provides IP transit service and has are located in Cologix data center at 625 Rene Levesque, Montreal, Canada. Thanks in advance for your help. Karim

OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Roy hockett
Has anyone ever used a below grade vault for housing fiber cross connects? We have to move a fiber interconnect facility due to the current building being demolished. If you have I would be interested in talking to you. If there are more appropriate lists, I would appreciate any suggestions.

new collector: route-views.soxrs.routeviews.org

2013-11-13 Thread John Kemp
Not much there yet, but we are operational and would love to get a few more peers. Serbian Open eXchange http://www.routeviews.org/soxrs.html Thanks, -- John Kemp (k...@routeviews.org) RouteViews Engineer NOC: n...@routeviews.org MAIL: h...@routeviews.org WWW: http://www.routeviews.org

Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy hockett wrote: Has anyone ever used a below grade vault for housing fiber cross connects? We have to move a fiber interconnect facility due to the current building being demolished. If you have I would be interested in talking to you. If there are more appropriate

Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Thomas
Usually it would spliced outside at the manhole where the fiber meet to go in the building. Depends on the way you want to connect them etc. Thomas L Graves Sent from my IPhone On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy

Re: Recovery mode on Juniper M7i

2013-11-13 Thread Anurag Bhatia
I was able to access routers by flashing 1st router's image on remaining. Issue with other three as to best extent I can guess was that someone enabled root password in single user mode and so there was no way around to get to recovery console. Thanks everyone for useful replies. On Wed, Nov

Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Jeff Kell
You can stick a splice in a manhole. You don't want a patch panel or cross-connect in that sort of environment, keep that housed inside, somewhere. Jeff On 11/13/2013 7:53 PM, Thomas wrote: Usually it would spliced outside at the manhole where the fiber meet to go in the building. Depends

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Sam Moats s...@circlenet.us wrote: about it's long term benefit to the entire network. I can't think of a way to remove the incentive for this short term thinking. The end users can, by inquiring about the abuse desk, before agreeing to sign up for

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread Sam Moats
Don't have access to a normal PC right now but I agreed with this approach so much that I'm typing a response on a 10 button pad. Sam On 2013-11-13 21:33, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Sam Moats s...@circlenet.us [1] wrote:   about its long term benefit to the entire

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-13 Thread goemon
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Sam Moats wrote: The only thing I can think of is that they are making the decisions about how important their abuse desk is based solely on the cost of running that desk. They are seeing it as a cost center and not thinking about it's long term benefit to the entire

Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Roy Hockett
Thank you for comments. Let me clarify the situation. We have a building that has been fiber cross connect location and is being demolished. This location has about 20 fiber cable entering where we patch between fiber paths. If we relocated these cross connect field to another building and

Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points

2013-11-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Roy Hockett wrote: Thank you for comments. Let me clarify the situation. We have a building that has been fiber cross connect location and is being demolished. This location has about 20 fiber cable entering where we patch between fiber paths. If we relocated these