Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org [2014-04-26 22:56]: the situation was created by the openbsd team, not the ieee, the ietf or iana. that's nothing short of a lie. The openbsd foundation raised $153,000 this year. Why not invest $2500 of this and fix the problem? good luck finding another

Re: Shared Transition Space VS. BGP Next Hop [was: Re: Best practices IPv4/IPv6 BGP (dual stack)]

2014-05-06 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
inside a VRF, but the MPLS standards wg seems content with status quo. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6 The WG is pretty close to wrap this up (back to the 3rd WGLC very soon). But frankly admitting, dual-stacking facilitated more issues than I expected early on.

Re: Shared Transition Space VS. BGP Next Hop [was: Re: Best practices IPv4/IPv6 BGP (dual stack)]

2014-05-06 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
Mark, about leveraging SR to push native IPv6 support into MPLS, Segment routing (SR) could/would certainly work with single-stack v6 and enable MPLS forwarding. Cheers, Rajiv On May 5, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On Monday, May 05, 2014 09:27:37 AM

Re: Shared Transition Space VS. BGP Next Hop [was: Re: Best practices IPv4/IPv6 BGP (dual stack)]

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, May 06, 2014 11:27:09 AM Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: Segment routing (SR) could/would certainly work with single-stack v6 and enable MPLS forwarding. Certainly, but based on the Paris meeting, it was not high up on the agenda. So we will, likely, have to rely on other solutions

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread ISP Services
Hi Song Li, As far as I know there are 2 mechanisms that should prevent this situation you describe from happening: - Not advertising routes that are not in the RIB Once AS1's peering with AS3 comes back up, the route through AS3 is learned and preferred. Therefore the route via AS2 is

RE: Shared Transition Space VS. BGP Next Hop [was: Re: Best practices IPv4/IPv6 BGP (dual stack)]

2014-05-06 Thread Vitkovský Adam
From: Mark Tinka [mailto:mark.ti...@seacom.mu] On Tuesday, May 06, 2014 11:27:09 AM Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: Segment routing (SR) could/would certainly work with single-stack v6 and enable MPLS forwarding. Certainly, but based on the Paris meeting, it was not high up on the

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Jared Mauch
I was also going to recommend the EdgeRouter Pro as it has dual SFP ports and the Vyatta/Linux stuff works quite well. I suspect you will be very surprised with the quality experience. If you've not used Vyatta, it's very JunOS-like. - Jared On May 5, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Cryptographrix

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Joe Greco
I was also going to recommend the EdgeRouter Pro as it has dual SFP = ports and the Vyatta/Linux stuff works quite well. I suspect you will be very surprised with the quality experience. If = you've not used Vyatta, it's very JunOS-like. Does anyone have any practical experience with the

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Song Li
Hi Dennis, I think there are two possible convergence results: 1/ AS3 accepted route 16.1/16(2 4 5) from AS1, then it will withdraw announce of 16.1/16(5) towards AS1. And AS1 will remain 16.1/16 (2 4 5). 2/ AS1 accepted route 16.1/16(3 5) from AS3, then it withdraw 16.1/16(2 4 5), and AS3

RE: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread bedard.phil
It uses a Cavium Octeon processor which does have dedicated HW packet processing. A moderate number of prefixes won't slow it down doing vanilla forwarding, not sure about 2 million though... I believe they have recently optimized some of the FW stuff to take advantage of the HW as well.

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Cryptographrix
It also has support for some type of ipv4 and ipv6 offload. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: I was also going to recommend the EdgeRouter Pro as it has dual SFP = ports and the Vyatta/Linux stuff works quite well. I suspect you will be very surprised

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread ISP Services
I suggest you work your way down :-) http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/border-gateway-protocol-bgp/13753-25.html Dennis Hagens Song Li schreef op 5/6/14 1:42 PM: Hi Dennis, I think there are two possible convergence results: 1/ AS3 accepted route 16.1/16(2 4 5) from AS1, then it

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:58:58 +0800, Song Li said: I have one bgp convergence problem which confused me. The problem is as follows: You may want to Google for 'BGP Wedgie'. https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog31/presentations/griffin.pdf http://www.rfc-base.org/txt/rfc-4264.txt Once you

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 06 May 2014 09:22:37 +0200, Henning Brauer said: * Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org [2014-04-26 22:56]: the situation was created by the openbsd team, not the ieee, the ietf or iana. that's nothing short of a lie. Umm.. remind me who chose the conflicting value and shipped product

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Tony Li
On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: the situation was created by the openbsd team, not the ieee, the ietf or iana. You squatted on an existing oui assignment used by an equivalent protocol and in doing this, you created a long term problem with no possible

Re: bgp convergence problem

2014-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
I have one bgp convergence problem which confused me. The problem is as follows: ++ | AS5 | +--+16.1/16 | | +-+--+ || +---+--+ | | AS4 | | | |

Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Drew Weaver
Hi all, I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. We are at about 94/95% right now of 512K. For most of us, the 512K route mark is arbitrary but for a lot of folks who may

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 06/05/2014 16:39, Drew Weaver wrote: In case anyone wants to check on a 6500, you can run: show platform hardware capacity pfc and then look under L3 Forwarding Resources. to fix the problem on sup720/rsp720: Router(config)#mls cef maximum-routes ip 768 This requires a reload to take

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 6 May 2014, Drew Weaver wrote: Hi all, I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. We are at about 94/95% right now of 512K. For most of us, the 512K route mark

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Jeff Kell
On 5/6/2014 11:39 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: Hi all, I am wondering if maybe we should make some kind of concerted effort to remind folks about the IPv4 routing table inching closer and closer to the 512K route mark. We are at about 94/95% right now of 512K. For most of us, the 512K route

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Drew Weaver
-Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 12:11 PM To: Drew Weaver; 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers. This problem also affects ASR9000 boxes running typhoon line

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 06/05/2014 18:01, Drew Weaver wrote: I believe you mean This problem also affects ASR9000 boxes running ...trident... line cards. Please confirm? er, yes, trident cards, not typhoon cards. typhoon cards are not affected by this. Nick

Re: linkedin.com abuse admins around?

2014-05-06 Thread Shawn Zandi
Dan, You can contact me offline, I'll connect you with postmasters. -Shawn On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: If there is anyone from linkedin.com abuse around please let me know. I've been trying for 2 months to get an abuse issue resolved. -Dan

RE: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600routers.

2014-05-06 Thread bedard.phil
I would like to see Cisco send something out... -Original Message- From: Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2014 11:42 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' nanog@nanog.org Subject: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600routers. Hi all, I am wondering if maybe

Re: linkedin.com abuse admins around?

2014-05-06 Thread Warren Bailey
Tell them to stop emailing us for their free trial while you're at it! ;) Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Shawn Zandi szme...@gmail.com Date: 05/06/2014 11:33 AM (GMT-07:00) To: goe...@anime.net Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re:

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 6 May 2014 07:56, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Tue, 06 May 2014 09:22:37 +0200, Henning Brauer said: * Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org [2014-04-26 22:56]: the situation was created by the openbsd team, not the ieee, the ietf or iana. that's nothing short of a lie. Umm.. remind me

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Steven Miano
You could also go Supermicro, and build out a 1U with SFP/Copper connections and put VyOS/vyatta as a linux based routing platform going that way you'll be strictly CPU/software bound though (Intel wrote up this interesting report:

RE:Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Darin
And since those puppies are going to need a reload after adjustment make sure your not exposed to the component decay issue for cards manufactured between 2005-2010 or you could have a interesting night. We've hit that issue on three different 7600 chassis. Darin -Original Message-

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Scott Weeks
--- gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gary Buhrmaster gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Deepak Jain dee...@ai.net wrote: Any recommendation for a residential CPE that supports dual SFP uplinks snip Have you looked at the EdgeRouter Pro? 2 SFP links, routing

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread David Conrad
Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: As a final note of course, when we petitioned IANA, the IETF body regulating official internet protocol numbers, to give us numbers for CARP and pfsync our request was denied. Apparently we had failed

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Pete Lumbis
There is currently a doc for the ASR9k. We're working on getting on for 6500 as well. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/routers/asr-9000-series-aggregation-services-routers/116999-problem-line-card-00.html On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:34 PM, bedard.p...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 6 May 2014 12:31, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: As a final note of course, when we petitioned IANA, the IETF body regulating official internet protocol numbers, to give us numbers for

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Rob Seastrom
I just recently got four sets off eBay. Purportedly genuine Cisco. A shade over $100. Raid the departmental beer fund. :) -r Vlade Ristevski vrist...@ramapo.edu writes: It would probably be a good time to upgrade the memory on my 7206 NPE-G1 as well (512MB). I was going to replace the

RE:Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Ca By
On May 6, 2014 12:32 PM, Darin syn...@live.com wrote: And since those puppies are going to need a reload after adjustment make sure your not exposed to the component decay issue for cards manufactured between 2005-2010 or you could have a interesting night. We've hit that issue on three

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread David Conrad
Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: Protocol 112 was assigned by IANA for VRRP in 1998. When did OpenBSD choose to squat on 112? If you don't use it, you lose it. Are you suggesting no one is running VRRP? Surprising given RFC 5798.

Re: Getting pretty close to default IPv4 route maximum for 6500/7600 routers.

2014-05-06 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 5/6/2014 10:39 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: Just something to think about before it becomes a story the community talks about for the next decade. Like we have for the last two? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of

Re: Anternet

2014-05-06 Thread Dave Crocker
On 4/4/2014 11:32 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do? get larger ants. (and the responses have now covered both pro forma responses.) d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 6 May 2014 15:17, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: Protocol 112 was assigned by IANA for VRRP in 1998. When did OpenBSD choose to squat on 112? If you don't use it, you lose it. Are you

Re: Residential CPE suggestions

2014-05-06 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: I wouldn't worry. A fancy GUI without intelligent engineering and design leveraged is just more rope for everyone to hang themselves with, esp. when something in the GUI inevitably doesn't work quite like it's supposed

Re: Anternet

2014-05-06 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Tue, 6 May 2014, Dave Crocker wrote: On 4/4/2014 11:32 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: So, if there's more than 4 billion ants... what are they going to do? get larger ants. No, no. The solution is far simpler than that, and would probably give a good example of real-world population

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 6, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2014 15:17, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: Protocol 112 was assigned by IANA for VRRP in 1998. When

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 6 May 2014 18:51, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On May 6, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2014 15:17, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: Constantine, On May 6, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread sthaug
So, then the only problem, perhaps, is that noone has apparently bothered to explicitly document that both VRRP and CARP use 00:00:5e:00:01:xx MAC addresses, and that the xx part comes from the Virtual Router IDentifier (VRID) in VRRP and virtual host ID (VHID) in CARP, providing a colliding

Re: US patent 5473599

2014-05-06 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: Your point being? That the BSD community sometimes doesn't play well with others, and certainly won't fess up when they make a mistake and cause collateral damage. The BSD community is larger than OpenBSD, and larger than Theo's ego, much to said