Re: Shipping bulk hardware via freight

2014-11-06 Thread Carlos Alcantar
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Re: Shipping bulk hardware via freight

2014-11-06 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 11/6/2014 12:07, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:11:23 -0500, William Herrin said: Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate and the whole cabinet dropped about a f

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Blake Hudson wrote: > > Owen, should providers be able to over subscribe their networks? If so, at > what tier level (tier 1, 2, 3, residential ISP)? Is it acceptable for a > provider to permit frequent congestion if they choose to? Or should they be > forced to

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Blake Hudson wrote: Owen, should providers be able to over subscribe their networks? If so, at what tier level (tier 1, 2, 3, residential ISP)? Is it acceptable for a provider to permit frequent congestion if they choose to? Or should they be forced to take action that may

SFPs in Seattle

2014-11-06 Thread Bobby Lacey
Sorry for the bandwidth, but we're kind of in a desperate situation to find two HP single mode SFPs. We ordered some yesterday, but it's looking like they won't be delivered today. Would anyone in the Seattle KeyArena area be able to help? If you think you could help today, could you please call Vi

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Blake Hudson
Owen, should providers be able to over subscribe their networks? If so, at what tier level (tier 1, 2, 3, residential ISP)? Is it acceptable for a provider to permit frequent congestion if they choose to? Or should they be forced to take action that may (potentially) lead to increased customer

Need Contacts at ISPs and ESPs in Ireland

2014-11-06 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
All, I'm currently in Ireland, and would very much like to connect with both ISPs and ESPs while I'm here. Any contacts that you can pass along would be greatly appreciated! Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO/President ISIPP SuretyMail Email Accreditation & Certification Author: Section 6 of th

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
I agree. There's nothing wrong with it at all unless you claim you're not doing that and then do it secretly in order to forward an agenda. On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 12:12:43PM -0600, Blake Hudson wrote: > If I were a Cogent customer I would like to have seen more transparency > (an announcemen

Re: Shipping bulk hardware via freight

2014-11-06 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:11:23 -0500, William Herrin said: > >> Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 >> back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate >> and the whole cabinet dropped about a fo

Re: TE offline tools

2014-11-06 Thread Yan Filyurin
And Open Source tool called TOTEM (Toolbox of Traffic Engineering Methods) exists. It has not been maintained since 2008 and was done as a university research project. You can do some things with it that you can do with the likes of Cariden and WANDL and it takes XML files. It is a bit of a pain

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Dorian Kim
Personally I hope that such an environment never happens. Fast/slow lanes are pretty meaningless. Such service differentiation only has meaning when there’s persistent congestion and I’d rather that networks work out ways to scale past demand rather than throttle them. -dorian > On Nov 6, 201

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Owen DeLong
The way I read it was that Cogent actually made things look artificially better for M-Labs while simultaneously making it much worse for one subset of their users and somewhat better for others. I would suggest that if we get the educational process right, we should be able to explain that the

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Blake Hudson
If I were a Cogent customer I would like to have seen more transparency (an announcement at least). However, I don't see anything wrong with their practice of giving some customers "Silver" service and others "Bronze" service while reserving "Gold" for themselves. Even if applications like VoIP

Re: Shipping bulk hardware via freight

2014-11-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:11:23 -0500, William Herrin said: > Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 > back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate > and the whole cabinet dropped about a foot to the ground with a nice solid > thud. I k

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Mike A
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 12:04:17PM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Livingood, Jason > > wrote: > > > > "Cogent practices net neutrality. We do not prioritize packet transmissions > > on the basis of the content of the packet, the customer or network that is > > th

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > "Cogent practices net neutrality. We do not prioritize packet transmissions > on the basis of the content of the packet, the customer or network that is > the source of the packet, or the customer or network that is the recipient of

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Livingood, Jason
I noticed that Cogent has a Net Neutrality statement. If I understand what they disclosed on the M-Lab list it does not seem to jive with this. The second sentence seems like what they said they are doing, right? http://www.cogentco.com/en/component/content/article/82 "Cogent practices net neut

Mutually Agreed Norms for Routing Security (MANRS)

2014-11-06 Thread Livingood, Jason
Of interest to this list – see http://www.internetsociety.org/news/network-operators-around-world-demonstrate-their-commitment-secure-and-resilient-internet and http://www.routingmanifesto.org/ - Jason

Re: Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > > > This is interesting. And it will be detrimental to network neutrality > supporters. Cogent admits that while the

Cogent admits to QoSing down streaming

2014-11-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
This is interesting. And it will be detrimental to network neutrality supporters. Cogent admits that while they were publicly complaining about other networks congesting links, th