Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/10/14 7:45 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote: > >> It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want >> you to >> buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks >> through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway! > > A

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-11 03:35, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > Grear – a paralegal – and her daughter claim the Xfinity hotspot is an > unauthorized intrusion into their private home, places a "vast" burden > on electricity bills, opens them up to attacks by hackers, and > "degrades" their bandwidth. LibertyGlobal

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Bush
zfs and ganeti -- Phones are not computers and suck for email On December 11, 2014 2:39:19 PM GMT+09:00, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: >On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> We are now using ZFS RAIDZ and the question I ask myself is, why >>> wasn't I using ZFS years ago? >> >> becau

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> We are now using ZFS RAIDZ and the question I ask myself is, why >> wasn't I using ZFS years ago? > > because it is not production on linux, Well, it depends on what you mean by "production". Certainly the ZFS on Linux group has said in some

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jeroen van Aart" > Comcast-supplied routers broadcast an encrypted, private wireless > network for people at home, plus a non-encrypted network called > XfinityWiFi that can be used by nearby subscribers. So if you're passing > by a fellow user's home, you ca

Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-10 Thread Paul S.
Tons of such companies exist; BlackLotus/Staminus/Prolexic/Voxility to name a few within the US. Service provided is usually based on proprietary algorithms that may or may not do what you want it to do, though. On 12/11/2014 10:39 AM, Javier J wrote: What about DDOS protection as a service?

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Javier J
The answer is, if someone is using your hotspot, it does use the same radio and channel your ssid is on. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Andrew Jones wrote: > It reads to me like it's not a separate Wi-Fi radio on a different > channel, but just an additional SSID being broadcast: > http://wif

Re: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-10 Thread Javier J
What about DDOS protection as a service? is that something that is being offered by more than a few vendors? I know of only one that exists through a friend. They basically start advertising your bgp routes, filter out the junk, and send the good traffic back to you. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:08

RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Andrew Jones
It reads to me like it's not a separate Wi-Fi radio on a different channel, but just an additional SSID being broadcast: http://wifi.comcast.com/faqs.html ctrl+f "Does the new Home Hotspot impact my Internet speeds or data usage?" On 11.12.2014 14:55, Phil Bedard wrote: It won't overlap with

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Javier J
In analyzing my neighbors who use comcast (I live in a townhouse and can see many access points) my biggest complaint is the the wifi pollution these comcast router/access-points cause. For each neighbor who has comcast HSI, expect to see 3 SSID with different mac showing up. There is the xfinity

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Mr Bugs
The technical aside, you could make it opt in and let people who opted in use the public network free, and charge people not signed up or not even Comcast customers for profit. This way it makes it feel more like building a community to the consumer rather than big biz pulling one over on the littl

RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Phil Bedard
It won't overlap with the one you are using for yourself on the same device. DOCSIS has service flows with different priorities. I don't know if they are allocating specific channels for it or if it's just a different service flow, but either way it is a lower priority and should not cause con

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Mr Bugs
Comcast is pushing DOCSIS 3.0 heavily, and the channel allocation and configuration in DOCSIS 3.0 is much more flexible, allowing speed configurations by bonding channels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS But the wifi, this is of course making an already crowded and noisy space much worse. I li

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote: It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want you to buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway! Are they charging per /24 (assuming IPv4 here...), or per prefi

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Harald Koch
On 10 December 2014 at 21:50, Mr Bugs wrote: > however they use a separate DOCSIS and 802.11 channel so if would follow > that it would be a separate IP tied to comcast corporate and not the > subscriber as well as not taking up your bandwidth. IIRC there are only three non-overlapping channel

RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Mr Bugs
Jeroen, Not that I agree with this practice, I specifically got my own modem because of this (and to have it directly attached to a real router) , however they use a separate DOCSIS and 802.11 channel so if would follow that it would be a separate IP tied to comcast corporate and not the subscribe

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Charles Mills
In the US at least you have to authenticate with your Comcast credentials and not like a traditional open wifi where you can just make up an email and accept the terms of service. I also understand that it is a different IP than the subscriber. Based on this the subscriber should be protected fro

RE: Relative cost of ONT and UPS for FTTP

2014-12-10 Thread Brian R
Jean-Francois, We use the Adtran ONT solutions. The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module (1187561F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise. For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units. The clam shell we are using to put the O

Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

2014-12-10 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Why am I not surprised? Whose fault would it be if your comcast installed public wifi would be abused to download illegal material or launch a botnet, to name some random fun one could have on your behalf. :-/ (apologies if this was posted already, couldn't find an email about it on the list

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Randy Bush
> We are now using ZFS RAIDZ and the question I ask myself is, why > wasn't I using ZFS years ago? because it is not production on linux, which i have to use because freebsd does not have kvm/ganeti. want zfs very very badly. snif. randy

Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)

2014-12-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/10/14 4:33 PM, Phil Bedard wrote: > Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get > the job done? > > With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's > available to be xconnected. We've done electromechanical cross connect termination befo

Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)

2014-12-10 Thread Phil Bedard
Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get the job done? With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's available to be xconnected. FiberZone was another vendor who made robotic patch panels, but I'm not sure they are around anymore. Int

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Joe Greco
> I'm just going to chime in here since I recently had to deal with bit-rot > affecting a 6TB linux raid5 setup using mdadm (6x 1TB disks) > > We couldn't rebuild because of 5 URE sectors on one of the other disks in > the array after a power / ups issue rebooted our storage box. > > We are now u

Relative cost of ONT and UPS for FTTP

2014-12-10 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
At recent hearings, I stuck my foot deep into my mouth (as I often do). So I am now tasked to find the relative cost of the ONT/UPS compared to the cost of the FTTP drop to the home (in a Flexnap environment). >From what I had read in the past, the ONT/UPS represent a major portion of the costs t

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Javier J
I'm just going to chime in here since I recently had to deal with bit-rot affecting a 6TB linux raid5 setup using mdadm (6x 1TB disks) We couldn't rebuild because of 5 URE sectors on one of the other disks in the array after a power / ups issue rebooted our storage box. We are now using ZFS RAIDZ

Re: ASN Domain for rDNS

2014-12-10 Thread Joe Abley
On 9 Dec 2014, at 19:30, Keefe John wrote: > I've been seeing more and more carriers(and even small ISPs) using as.net > as their domain for rDNS on IP space. What are the pros and cons for doing > this versus using your primary business domain name? When you are forced to change your na

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread Ammar Zuberi
I was once with a provider that charged something stupid like $500 per BGP session. This really isn't that big of a surprise. On 10 Dec 2014, at 8:33 pm, John Levine wrote: >> Haven't encountered this myself, but putting a price on DFZ routing >> slots seems like a Good Thing to me. > > Paid

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread John Levine
>Haven't encountered this myself, but putting a price on DFZ routing >slots seems like a Good Thing to me. Paid to whom? Yes, it would be nice to put more backpressure on announcements to get the size of the DFZ down. But unless you can figure out how to get the money from the people announcing

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Rob Seastrom
The subject is drifting a bit but I'm going with the flow here: Seth Mos writes: > Raid10 is the only valid raid format these days. With the disks as big > as they get these days it's possible for silent corruption. How do you detect it? A man with two watches is never sure what time it is.

RE: Carrier-grade DDoS Attack mitigation appliance

2014-12-10 Thread James Braunegg
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Re: ASN Domain for rDNS

2014-12-10 Thread Paul S.
Just been using the .net version of our company domain for router/interface IPs. Also own the AS.com/net and .as though, primarily to not get squatted on. On 12/10/2014 午前 09:30, Keefe John wrote: I've been seeing more and more carriers(and even small ISPs) using as.net as their domain f

Re: ASN Domain for rDNS

2014-12-10 Thread Rubens Kuhl
And considering browsers use domains to define whether to send cookies or not along a request, not having access customers on the same domain of your website is a security benefit. Rubens On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Kate Gerry wrote: > Short answer: I just like doing it. > > Long answer:

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-12-09, symack wrote: > Server down. Got to colo at 4:39 and an old IBM X346 node with > Serveraid-7k has failed. Opened it up to find a swollen cache battery that > has bent the card in three different axis. > * Can I change from an active (ie, disks with data) raid 5 to raid 10. Eve

Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read

2014-12-10 Thread Seth Mos
symack schreef op 9-12-2014 22:03: > * Can I change from an active (ie, disks with data) raid 5 to raid 10. > There are 4 drives Dump and restore. I've used Acronis succesfully in the past and today, they have a bootable ISO. Also, if you have the option, they have universal restore so you can res

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread Yucong Sun
if that is the intent, they should charge per prefix. Not per /24 eqiv. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 00:20 Tore Anderson wrote: > * Yucong Sun > > > My recent inquiry to some network provider reveals that they are > > charging fee for per /24 announced. Obvious that would means they get > > to charge a

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread Yucong Sun
It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want you to buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway! Because why couldn't they? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014, 00:21 Maximilian Baehring wrote: > Europe: It costs 50

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread Tore Anderson
* Yucong Sun > My recent inquiry to some network provider reveals that they are > charging fee for per /24 announced. Obvious that would means they get > to charge a lot with little to none efforts on their side. > > In a world we are charging total bytes transferred instead of bps on > uplinks,