RE: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Phil Bedard
Yes when I took "networks" as part of my CS degree 12 years ago most of it was socket programming and had very little to do with infrastructure management. I don't think that has changed much talking to recent graduates. Phil -Original Message- From: "Kinkaid, Kyle" Sent: ‎12/‎23/‎201

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Scott Voll
I will agree with most of the others that took the Cisco academy courses at the local community college. it all depends on the instructor. My 1st year was taught in the evenings by a full time Network Engineer. Best 3 terms I had. The problem was that year two was taught be a bunch of old guys

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Edward Lewis
Last time I taught, I lectured (senior-level 3-credit elective) on calculating the efficiency of Ethernet and why it was no good above 10Mbps. On Dec 23, 2014, at 15:29, Mike Hammett wrote: > At the time, though, Ethernet belonged within a building. If you were wanting > to connect multiple bu

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/23/14 12:40 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. > why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? Because poorly targeted prefix filtering works so well for spam and ddos... except that it doesn't. > randy >

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Randy Bush
> I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? randy

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Mike Hammett
When I took my CCNA a bit over ten years ago, it was terribly out of date. That said, I beleive I was the last class to go through on that version. The next one added OSPF and some other things. At the time, though, Ethernet belonged within a building. If you were wanting to connect multiple b

RE: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Matt Karney
I've gone through the CNA (Cisco Networking Academy) program at a US college and got a 4 year Bachelors of Science from there. The program took me through CCNP level courses and prepared me well for taking the CCNP level certs. They also touched on a broad swath of technology from monitoring sys

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Landon Stewart
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Javier J wrote: > > What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity > in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that > wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was > really them behind

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Javier J
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. http://www.standupameric

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Dennis Bohn
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > Learning how to do CIDR math is a major core component of the coursework? > Im > thinking that this is about a 30 minute module in the material, once you > know > binary, powers of 2 and some addition and subtraction (all of which is > taught >

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Pavel Odintsov
Why you suggest it? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks > wrote: > >> Any of you guys want to fess up? :) >> >> >> http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 >> >> (Yes, I know, they're

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks wrote: > Any of you guys want to fess up? :) > > > http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 > > (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) I was hoping that everyone just put 175.

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Marshall Eubanks < marshall.euba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J > wrote: > >> But I can ping them. >> >> https://nknetobserver.github.io/ >> >> And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their >> population.

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-23 Thread Kinkaid, Kyle
In addition to my "9 to 5" job of network engineer, I teach evening courses at a US community college (for you non-USers, it's a place for the first 2-years of post-secondary education, typically before proceeding to a full 4-year university). The community college I work at participates in the Ci