Gmail slow?

2015-02-12 Thread Mel Beckman
We are getting many complaints demo diverse networks on both coasts that Gmail is very sluggish, sometimes taking a 20 to 30 seconds to refresh the mail items list. Is anyone else seeing this? -mel beckman Becknet.com

Re: mpls over microwave

2015-02-12 Thread Scott Weeks
Just in case anyone looks this thread up in the future... We're likely going with Aviat and their DAC GE card EXD-181-002 cards. From the company: Yes the Ethernet card does support jumbo frame size, IPV6 and MPLS EXP bits, QOS and VLANs with 802.1q tagging. scott

Re: Gmail slow?

2015-02-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm on Google Apps and gmail.com (personal). Web interface, assuming that's what you're talking about. No problems from here. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote:

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Owen DeLong
The extent to which this is technically feasible and how one must go about it actually varies greatly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Something well worth considering given the number of jurisdictions already mentioned in the current discussion. There are a number of possible concerns that

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Randy Bush
creative commons

Vancouver WA Comcast Outage?

2015-02-12 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
We just lost a handful of customers in Vancouver WA on Comcast. Voice and data are out. Initial reports are saying a transformer blew down town. -A

RE: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Frank Bulk
That's my thought, too -- add DKIM and also work through those Google forms. I didn't see any red flags when I checked an IP and your host against some email measurement sites. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ben Whorwood Sent: Thursday,

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Daniel Taylor
Of course not, and I didn't mean to imply that they were. I was surprised to see it still present *anywhere* (this was in a major Linux distribution, and may still be), and that hidden presence may be polluting data streams used by even the most responsible vendors unless they are running

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Which distro is it that has dnsbl filtering on by default, and also defaulting to shady no name blocklists? I have yet to see a case where turning this sort of thing on first and kicking self later wasn't because of a clueless sysadmin. On Feb 13, 2015 7:36 AM, Daniel Taylor

RE: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Ahad Aboss
Hi Skeeve, In a sense, you are an artist as network architecture is an art in itself. It involves interaction with time, processes, people and things or an intersection between all. As an architect, you analyze customer needs and design a solution using your creative ideas to address their

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist block lists. On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, Daniel Taylor dtay...@vocalabs.com wrote: Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local installation, and I am pretty sure

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Richard Porter
On Feb 12, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Ahad Aboss a...@telcoinabox.com wrote: Hi Skeeve, In a sense, you are an artist as network architecture is an art in itself. It involves interaction with time, processes, people and things or an intersection between all. And to that, artwork would fall under

Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Hi all, I have two perspectives I am trying to address with regard to network design and intellectual property. 1) The business who does the design - what are their rights? 2) The customer who asked for the rights from a consultant My personal thoughts are conflicting: - You create networks

Re: FTTx Active-Ethernet Hardware

2015-02-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/15 14:49, Tarko Tikan wrote: It is being replaced by ASR-920-24SZ-M - 24GE Fiber and 4-10GE: Modular PSU. I don't think this ASR920 has been announced yet :) Well, it's on the web site, and our AM team gave us a price a few weeks ago. I'm just surprised why they'd do this,

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Feb/15 14:58, Michael Butler wrote: And to compound the (perceived) problem, any IP embedded in a network design is almost always prior art. It's not a rabbit-hole worth going down - I agree with Randy, Agree. Mark.

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Create a filter. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net wrote: Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world - gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Randy Bush
And to compound the (perceived) problem, any IP embedded in a network design is almost always prior art. It's not a rabbit-hole worth going down - I agree with Randy, i have four lives. iij research, dev, ... our goal is to publish our ideas there are coworkers doing very innovative design

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Don't use GMail for things you care about? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said but to clarify: 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible 2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. My gut

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Brandon Butterworth
Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said but to clarify: 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible I think they mean we don't want you coming back and trying to make

gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world - gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail erroneously? Thanks.

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Randy Bush
I'm keen to see how you might think that fits in to the context? creative commons i prefer to be paid for being able to think, not for what i once thought. creative commons suits my needs for network designs. randy --- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Michael Butler
On 02/12/15 07:42, Randy Bush wrote: I'm keen to see how you might think that fits in to the context? creative commons i prefer to be paid for being able to think, not for what i once thought. creative commons suits my needs for network designs. And to compound the (perceived) problem, any

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Hey Randy, I'm keen to see how you might think that fits in to the context? ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype:

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Feb/15 14:36, Skeeve Stevens wrote: What I am really looking for is some working, experience, precedence that backs up the view that IP on network design is actually not possible... which is my gut feeling. I've designed some pretty unique and profitable features using tech. (not

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
I like this take on it... thanks David. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens skeeve+na...@eintellegonetworks.com wrote: Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said but to clarify: 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network design' which I was wondering if it is even

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Whorwood
It may be worth taking a look at the Bulk Senders Guidelines to make sure any additional steps suggested by Google (DKIM signing, etc) have been taken: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en It may also be that other Gmail users have flagged your emails as spam in the past.

RE: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Rubenstein
I should have been clearer. I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail account or google apps) that they recipient is reporting that the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I tested this myself, sending an email

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Scott Helms
I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the lack of spam from this specific server. A great percentage of the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to have little or no over sight in place. Also, lots of

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Scott Helms
Alex, I won't begin to claim to know the root cause behind this, but I own it isn't a good reason to say that no spam has come from it, indeed it's not even a reason to say that a great amount of spam hasn't come from it. The only way Google allows contact on these issues is via this form:

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Pedro Cavaca
See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126 which may take you to https://support.google.com/mail/troubleshooter/2696779 and eventually to https://support.google.com/mail/contact/bulk_send_new?hl=enrd=1 HTH. On 12 February 2015 at 15:41, Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net wrote: I

RE: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is proper. This is a recent issue. From: Scott Helms [mailto:khe...@zcorum.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM To: Alex Rubenstein Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Whorwood

Re: gmail spam help

2015-02-12 Thread Daniel Taylor
Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still haven't figured it out so there's a lot of false positives being generated all over the place to throw off even

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Exactly my thoughts Mark ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks

Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design

2015-02-12 Thread Bill Woodcock
I include a no intellectual property ownership is transferred between the Parties clause in just about everything we do. Doesn't demand that any of the questions you raise be answered, but shuts the door to problems pretty firmly. -Bill On Feb 12, 2015, at 17:20,