Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion)

2015-07-10 Thread Nicholas Suan
You should elaborate on some of these 'holes' then. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:48:06 -0400, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: Both techniques indicate more than 20% of the US Internet users are connecting via IPv6.

Fwd: Test-drive the OS X El Capitan public beta

2015-07-10 Thread Colin Johnston
lots of 6GB downloads this morning :) Colin Begin forwarded message: From: Apple Beta Software Program betaprog...@insideapple.apple.com Subject: Test-drive the OS X El Capitan public beta Date: 10 July 2015 05:08:06 BST To: col...@mx5.org.uk The El Capitan public beta is now

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 7/9/2015 6:31 PM, John Curran wrote: On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at mailto:matt...@matthew.at wrote: On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com mailto:o...@delong.com wrote: ... You are correct… In order for 20% of Google’s traffic to come from

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:33:25 -0700, Matthew Kaufman said: One of the hopeful outcomes of IPv6 adoption was that an ISP could get enough to last forever in a single transaction. But forever isn't very long at one /48 (or more) per customer. How long does it take to blow through a /20 at /48 a

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Ricky Beam
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:15:57 -0400, Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au wrote: Actually I was mentioning thousands. Dozens, millions, whatever. Pick something and get on with it already. What you personally don't foresee is pretty much irrelevant to what will actually happen... And planning for

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 7/9/2015 3:07 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Can you offer one valid reason not to give residential users /48s? Any benefit whatsoever? Sure. To avoid having to go back and deal with ARIN yet again for more IPv6 space. One of the hopeful outcomes of IPv6 adoption was that an ISP could get

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Tim Franklin
And I’m saying you’re ignoring an important part of reality. Whatever ISPs default to deploying now will become the standard to which application developers develop. Changing the ISP later is easy. I'm not even convinced of that. Once /56 (or *any* value) is baked into the processes,

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jul/15 21:55, Jared Mauch wrote: I run my home as a big broadcast domain, but there's no reason I wouldn't perhaps segment things differently. There are a lot of people who just extend their wifi by plugging in a 2nd router with a long cable and don't realize they now have a new

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jul/15 21:45, Matthew Huff wrote: I've seen VLAN/subnet security used frequently in the financial world, even to the point of having full firewalls between vlans/subnets. Mostly for regulator purposes (Chinese firewall and all that). It's also common to allow outbound requests or

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:42:57 -0700, Matthew Kaufman said: infrastructure. Anecdotally: I have yet to work regularly at a facility that has IPv6 connectivity to the outside world from the WiFi networks that serve employee laptops. Anecdotally, it's been about a decade since I worked someplace

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Joe Maimon
There has been tomes on this topic. There will continue to be many more. That is because many of you continue in trying to defend the following concept. customer subnet bits == isp customers bits So now, the ISP is supposed to put some effort and gain more bits. Why not the customer?

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jul/15 18:53, Matthew Huff wrote: If an ISP wants to give out a /48, great for them. If they want to give out only a /56, I say that's fine. What's more important to me is that they implement IPv6. Arguing about prefix size and SLAAC vs DHCP rather than just go ahead and implement

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Jul/15 21:38, Tyler Applebaum wrote: Do people actually use VLANs for security? It's nice to implement them for organizational purposes and to prevent broadcast propagation. Limitation of broadcast propagation could be viewed as a security feature. Mark.

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Buxey
2 mbit is still more than 32 bit ;) alan

ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hello, Let me introduce another first world problem. We use DHCPv4 to assign each user a IPv4 /32 and DHCPv6-PD to assign a IPv6 /128 WAN plus a /48 prefix. All good. However we are an ISP where the customer chooses his own CPE. We just ship a modem/mediaconverter/ONU with one ethernet port. The

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message capkb-7c5lx0qwypfq5qyyvfahsbqfvw7tkhsuezvqdtmvyc...@mail.gmail.com , Baldur Norddahl writes: Hello, Let me introduce another first world problem. We use DHCPv4 to assign each user a IPv4 /32 and DHCPv6-PD to assign a IPv6 /128 WAN plus a /48 prefix. All good. However we are an

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Jul/15 01:08, Owen DeLong wrote: If we deliver /48s, then they will come up with innovative ways to make use of those deployments. If we deliver /56s, then innovation will be constrained to what can be delivered to /56s, even for sites that have /48s. I'm finding it difficult to wrap

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Hi Joseph, in the meantime I have ~20 verified paths which are affected and Level3 is simply not competent enough to reroute/drop the affected path ... FYI: my private ticket # is 9446435 ### There is also a new global ticket available: Network Event Detail Network Event Summary: Multiple

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
32 bit connection with a 32 bit address will open up an three-dimensional portal under the hotel. They all know this and work around it by selecting a lower connection speed. On July 10, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Alan Buxey a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: 2 mbit is still more than 32 bit ;) alan

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread John Curran
On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:34 AM, Baldur Norddahl baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: RIPE policy requires me to send in justification for review for any allocations larger than a /48. For a $35/month contract? Forget it, not going to happen. Plus it would be rejected …. It is just sad this is not

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Joseph Jenkins
Level3 had an issue with one of their core routers in Los Angeles last night(7pm Pacific) and early this morning(1am Pacific). Last update to my trouble ticket had the issue still being reviewed by engineering, but that a core router was dropping packets. On Jul 10, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Jürgen

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 10 July 2015 at 12:09, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Who is forbidding you? Not the IETF. Not the RIRs. RIPE policy requires me to send in justification for review for any allocations larger than a /48. For a $35/month contract? Forget it, not going to happen. Plus it would be

Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Hi, does anyone else experience issues with the Level3 network at the US west coast? We see lots of broken paths like this: Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst

Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion)

2015-07-10 Thread John Curran
On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Nicholas Suan ns...@nonexiste.netmailto:ns...@nonexiste.net wrote: You should elaborate on some of these 'holes' then. Indeed. If there are “holes” in the methodology, then they are quite consistent holes, since Google, APNIC, and Akamai

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 02:08 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: And planning for a future that doesn't happen because you're too caught up in *planning* that future is irrelevant, too. Advocating for fewer limits is not planning. It's the opposite of it. It's about retaining more flexibility - as a

Re: Test-drive the OS X El Capitan public beta

2015-07-10 Thread John Curran
On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:17 AM, Colin Johnston col...@mx5.org.ukmailto:col...@mx5.org.uk wrote: lots of 6GB downloads this morning :) Colin Begin forwarded message: From: Apple Beta Software Program betaprog...@insideapple.apple.commailto:betaprog...@insideapple.apple.com Subject: Test-drive

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:33:25 -0700, Matthew Kaufman said: One of the hopeful outcomes of IPv6 adoption was that an ISP could get enough to last forever in a single transaction. But forever isn't very long at one /48 (or more)

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:05:50PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 011d01d0bab1$e7890a00$b69b1e00$@gmail.com, Chuck Church writes: -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:08 AM To: Colin

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jürgen Jaritsch j...@anexia.at wrote: Level3 is broken again ... maybe today they decided to only do L2 routing? :)

Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion)

2015-07-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:58:22PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 06:14:16 -0400, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: If there are “holes” in the methodology, then they are quite consistent holes... They are mere statistics. They say only what they say without any measured

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:50 , John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.orgmailto:m...@beckman.org wrote: This is a side issue, but I'm surprised ARIN is still advertising incorrect information in the table. ... Are you saying that there

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Ricky Beam
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:06:03 -0400, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: It's like going to a Starbucks as a homeless person with just pocket change, and ordering the cheapest coffee on the menu, and being told Oh, that's for off-planet visitors only. It says so on our website under Terms

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Level3 is broken again ... Packets Pings HostLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. 178.255.154.17 63.6%120.2 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.0 2.

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 7/10/2015 4:00 PM, Eddie Tardist wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Christoph Blecker cblec...@gmail.com wrote: The bug that this crash impacts is in ASA was introduced in 9.1(4.3) and fixed in 9.1(5.1) and later. Are you inside the

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Ricky, I am always in favor of redundant clarity over technically correct confusion :) -mel beckman On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 16:06:03 -0400, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: It's like going to a Starbucks as a homeless person

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Jared, http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/525db76369bedd1029d61f47-1200/august-2009.jpg Perfect! -mel via cell On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.netmailto:ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:48:46PM +, Mel Beckman wrote: You perhaps

Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion)

2015-07-10 Thread Ricky Beam
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 06:14:16 -0400, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: If there are “holes” in the methodology, then they are quite consistent holes... They are mere statistics. They say only what they say without any measured margin of error. For Google, their numbers are collected via

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
You perhaps haven't worked a large government network deployment before. One doesn't activate features not enumerated in the design. Ever. Because they won't get and can thus introduce security or reliability covered in acceptance testing and could introduce security or reliability problems.

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:48:46PM +, Mel Beckman wrote: You perhaps haven't worked a large government network deployment before. One doesn't activate features not enumerated in the design. Ever. Because they won't get and can thus introduce security or reliability covered in acceptance

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Mark, Few acceptance test regimes cover established feature testing. It's just too expensive. For example, an acceptance test of a firewall installation does not include validating the DPI implementation. Government and enterprise buyers rely on certifications, such as ICSA for firewalls,

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
How can it be a large, complex deployment if it’s greenfield. In that case, you need to acceptance test the IPv4 just as much as IPv6. The difference is that you don’t have to rerun your acceptance tests 6-months later when you have to implement IPv6 in a rush because you suddenly learned that

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 10, 2015, at 22:34 , Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: Owen, I never said it was a greenfield deployment. Someone else tagged it with that term. My understanding of the term greenfield WRT wifi is that there are no interfering signals to contend with. I don't know of any

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 11/07/15 08:25, Shane Ronan wrote: 1.1.1.1 is usually a good bet Sadly yes, even though it's valid public IP space Cisco still have it documented as their suggested captive portal address. Despite it (and 1.2.3.0/24) being advertised by $ORK for years at this point on behalf of APNIC.

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
Yes, but TBH, they are advertised as a darkspace collection project, so Cisco’s use is actually somewhat helpful to that activity. It’s unlikely that 1.1.1.0/24 or 1.2.3.0/24 will ever be allocated by APNIC. Owen On Jul 10, 2015, at 22:47 , Julien Goodwin na...@studio442.com.au wrote: On

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Owen, I never said it was a greenfield deployment. Someone else tagged it with that term. My understanding of the term greenfield WRT wifi is that there are no interfering signals to contend with. I don't know of any U.S. airport that meets that definition. First you have all the wifi of

RE: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Chuck Church
I would say it depends on the complexity and probability of it happening accidentally. An incorrect letter (language change perhaps) in a URL that crashes a web server might not be malicious. A crafted ESP or ISAKMP packet that was created in a Linux packet tool and 'randomly' hits your VPN I'd

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: I working on a large airport WiFi deployment right now. IPv6 is allowed for in the future but not configured in the short term. With less than 10,000 ephemeral users, we don't expect users to demand IPv6 until most mobile

Re: Test-drive the OS X El Capitan public beta

2015-07-10 Thread Colin Johnston
as well hopefully less upgrade traffic once installed as update install images less big as well colin Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jul 2015, at 14:11, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:17 AM, Colin Johnston col...@mx5.org.uk wrote: lots of 6GB downloads this morning

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Seth Mos
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here on a patio at a cafe on Samos, Greece. And the free wifi gives me native v6 to my tablet and phone without any intervention. Test-ipv6.com tells me that the score is 10/10 and all the google bits just work. So, surely it just works. I wish we had it this easy in

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread George, Wes
On 7/10/15, 6:34 AM, NANOG on behalf of Baldur Norddahl nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the problem is that DHCPv6-PD is not intelligent enough. Yes there is a provision such that the user CPE could give a hint of how much space is want, but no, it

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Hi, sitting here and watching the packet loss coming and going :(. It changes every 10-25min. Looks like an massive issue in San Jose - routers out there sometimes have an latency from 5-6 SECONDS ... best regards Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Ca By
On Friday, July 10, 2015, Joseph Jenkins j...@breathe-underwater.com wrote: Level3 had an issue with one of their core routers in Los Angeles last night(7pm Pacific) and early this morning(1am Pacific). Last update to my trouble ticket had the issue still being reviewed by engineering, but

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
This is a side issue, but I'm surprised ARIN is still advertising incorrect information in the table. A small ISP client of mine had just received their first /23 earlier this year, and I convinced them they should deploy IPv6 along with IPv4 in their new PoP. It would cost nothing, I argued,

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Paul Hoogsteder
On 09-07-15 23:51, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 09/07/2015 22:35, Ricky Beam wrote: Free if you have a support contract. No, free-as-in-beer. You register a guest CCO account, email t...@cisco.com, provide the device serial number (or output of show hardware) and the bugid + Cisco PSIRT URL

Weekly Routing Table Report

2015-07-10 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 9, 2015, at 23:33 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 7/9/2015 3:07 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Can you offer one valid reason not to give residential users /48s? Any benefit whatsoever? Sure. To avoid having to go back and deal with ARIN yet again for more IPv6

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
My solution would be to tell them if they want more than 1 IPv4 /32, they need a router. Then route a prefix of appropriate size to their router. /48 for IPv6 as you are doing, and /n for IPv4. They want 2 addresses, give them a /30. 3-6, /29; 7-14, /28, etc. Seems pretty straight forward to

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Hi, No SLA broken cause A- and B-End were not directly our circuits ... but it helps a lot to place some new orders ... at other partners :). best regards Jürgen Jaritsch -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] Im Auftrag von Jens Hoffmann Gesendet:

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 10, 2015, at 03:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:33:25 -0700, Matthew Kaufman said: One of the hopeful outcomes of IPv6 adoption was that an ISP could get enough to last forever

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On Jul 10, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jul 10, 2015, at 03:57 , Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 23:33:25 -0700, Matthew Kaufman said: One of the hopeful

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 9, 2015, at 23:08 , Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:15:57 -0400, Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au wrote: Actually I was mentioning thousands. Dozens, millions, whatever. Pick something and get on with it already. I don’t know anyone that’s going to get

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 10, 2015, at 00:59 , Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote: There has been tomes on this topic. There will continue to be many more. That is because many of you continue in trying to defend the following concept. customer subnet bits == isp customers bits So now, the ISP is

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jens Hoffmann
Hi, Wow Level3 responded to me that they had an issue last night but they simply did nothing ... for at least 10 hours they did nothing to fix the issue: Any SLA broken? Probably not, that would be a reason to move. Kind regards, Jens

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
John, Thanks for the clarification. I'm happy to abide by the original community decision, but I think it's important that the table be clarified, especially given that the ARIN specialist I worked with agreed that it needs clarification. It's like going to a Starbucks as a homeless person

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread John Curran
On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.orgmailto:m...@beckman.org wrote: This is a side issue, but I'm surprised ARIN is still advertising incorrect information in the table. ... Are you saying that there is no way to get an IPv6 allocation in the xx-small category? ARIN: Yes.

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Eddie Tardist
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Paul Hoogsteder maili...@meanie.nl wrote: On 09-07-15 23:51, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 09/07/2015 22:35, Ricky Beam wrote: Free if you have a support contract. No, free-as-in-beer. You register a guest CCO account, email t...@cisco.com, provide the device

Joker.com contact / GLUE help

2015-07-10 Thread David Sotnick
Hi NANOG, Does anyone have any technical contacts at Joker.com? I am going in circles with their support folks trying to update the GLUE records for two of my nameservers and keep running into permissions issues despite the glue records clearly being part of my domain. I need to speak to someone

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-10 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Wow Level3 responded to me that they had an issue last night but they simply did nothing ... for at least 10 hours they did nothing to fix the issue: ### Event Case ID: 9446216 Location: Los Angeles, CA Impacted For: 10 hours 52 minutes ETR: Unknown Bridge: N/A 08:52 GMT - Event

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message cal9jlaba5no6yq99crhdgrthtsb0vgp3gdneu-vu2-4r_1_...@mail.gmail.com , Christopher Morrow writes: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: I working on a large airport WiFi deployment right now. IPv6 is allowed = for in the future but not configured in the

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Limited municipal budgets is all I can say. IPv6 has a cost, and if they can put it off till later then that's often good politics. -mel via cell On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message cal9jlaba5no6yq99crhdgrthtsb0vgp3gdneu-vu2-4r_1_...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 07:41:53AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: +1 and you will most probably see about 50% of the traffic being IPv6 if you do so. There is lots of IPv6 capable equipment out there just waiting to see a RA. What I noticed when I ran a transparent HTTP proxy at my

The Cidr Report

2015-07-10 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 10 21:14:43 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

BGP Update Report

2015-07-10 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 02-Jul-15 -to- 09-Jul-15 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS9829 220585 5.2% 195.7 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN 2 - AS23752

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread John Curran
On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.orgmailto:m...@beckman.org wrote: John, Thanks for the clarification. I'm happy to abide by the original community decision, but I think it's important that the table be clarified, especially given that the ARIN specialist I worked with

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message a24f7cf2-0cd8-4eba-a211-07bc36988...@beckman.org, Mel Beckman writ es: Limited municipal budgets is all I can say. IPv6 has a cost, and if they can put it off till later then that's often good politics. -mel via cell IPv4 has a cost as well. May as well just go IPv6-only from day

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
There is most certainly a cost to IPv6, especially in a large, complex deployment, where everything requires acceptance testing. And I'm sure you realize that IPv6 only is not an option. I agree that it would have been worth the cost, which would have been just a small fraction of the total.

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Christoph Blecker
The bug that this crash impacts is in ASA was introduced in 9.1(4.3) and fixed in 9.1(5.1) and later. Are you inside the affected version range? If not, it's not the bug being discussed here. If so, you may wish to upgrade. Cheers, Christoph On 10 July 2015 at 12:56, Eddie Tardist

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-10 Thread Mel Beckman
Thank you! -mel via cell On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:19 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.netmailto:jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.orgmailto:m...@beckman.org wrote: John, Thanks for the clarification. I'm happy to abide by the original community

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20150710215658.gc23...@puck.nether.net, Jared Mauch writes: On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 07:41:53AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: +1 and you will most probably see about 50% of the traffic being IPv6 if you do so. There is lots of IPv6 capable equipment out there just waiting to see a

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Scott Weeks
Limited municipal budgets is all I can say. IPv6 has a cost, and if they can put it off till later then that's often good politics. IPv4 has a cost as well. May as well just go IPv6-only from day one and not pay the IPv4 tax at all. The cost difference between providing IPv6 + IPv4 or

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Shane Ronan
1.1.1.1 is usually a good bet On Jul 10, 2015 6:21 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message 20150710215658.gc23...@puck.nether.net, Jared Mauch writes: On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 07:41:53AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: +1 and you will most probably see about 50% of the traffic being

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message da95983c-71f1-4aa6-b431-2f2ffd515...@beckman.org, Mel Beckman writ es: There is most certainly a cost to IPv6, especially in a large, complex deployment, where everything requires acceptance testing. And I'm sure you realize that IPv6 only is not an option. I agree that it would

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-10 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:08:15PM +, Mel Beckman wrote: There is most certainly a cost to IPv6, especially in a large, complex deployment, where everything requires acceptance testing. And I'm sure you realize that IPv6 only is not an option. I agree that it would have been worth the

Re: Possible Sudden Uptick in ASA DOS?

2015-07-10 Thread Eddie Tardist
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Christoph Blecker cblec...@gmail.com wrote: The bug that this crash impacts is in ASA was introduced in 9.1(4.3) and fixed in 9.1(5.1) and later. Are you inside the affected version range? If not, it's not the bug being discussed here. If so, you may wish to