Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix
As DE-CIX learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to build an exchange in. As such their operating costs are a lot higher than in other markets circuits in the states are more painful than northern europe, japan, etc. a bunch of smaller isps in the states were annoyed at equinix's domination of the east coast markets so encouraged some european community exchanges to colonize. what they did not do was offer to subsidize any surprizes in expense, gaining a market foothold, etc. this is sometimes known as let's you and him fight. randy
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DE-CIX vs Equinix
What are the main difference between these two peering companies, exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that that would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better question is why would people switch? For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be true in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/ Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by the infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees. Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? What is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers the cost of operating the exchange?
Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix
On 22/Jul/15 15:48, Colton Conor wrote: Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? What is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers the cost of operating the exchange? My knee-jerk response would be that the big EU exchange points are trading on their name - as being well-known, well-run exchange points - to get traction in markets outside of EU, that may or may not have established exchange points. Whether operators see value in that is an exercise left up to the reader. Mark.
Re: 20-30Gbps UDP 1720 traffic appearing to originate from CN in last 24 hours
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Colin Johnston wrote: blocking to mitigate risk is a better trade off gaining better percentage legit traffic against a indventant minor valid good network range. There are bound to be an awful lot of babies in that bathwater you're planning to throw out. You're certainly free to block whatever traffic you wish, but your customers might not appreciate a heavy-handed approach to stopping bad traffic at the gates. jms
Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: What are the main difference between these two peering companies, exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that that would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better question is why would people switch? In short, Equinix is by far and large a data center operator and the Internet exchange is an add-on service only available within their data center locations. DE-CIX is an exchange point operator who operates in multiple dis-parent data center locations. For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be true in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/ I would not use DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark.As DE-CIX learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to build an exchange in.As such their operating costs are a lot higher than in other markets and I don't believe it would be a good assumption to use NYC based pricing in Dallas.But keep in mind, DE-CIX likes to distribute their network access nodes to get a larger audience than within ones own facility. Also, I would suggest looking at the big picture and the cost of colocation services in a facility other than Equinix to level the playing field. Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by the infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees. Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? What is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers the cost of operating the exchange? As stated above, when looking at the big picture, it may or may not be more expensive when all of your other services are considered. It should be said that I don't have any axe to grind and think very highly of Equinix.But with respect to Dallas, I would suggest looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true. charles
