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Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:01:19 -0500, Sean Hunter may have written: > a) Has anyone here had a similar experience? Was the root cause QUIC > in your case? Yes. No; in our case our firewall (a PA5060 running PANOS6.1.3 at the time) was allowing some QUIC packets through, but

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

Many transit providers support BGP communities to modify how your announced routes are treated within their network. A quick search shows that AT supports BGP community 7018:70 to lower the default local-pref 100 down to 70 (below peer routes). If you tag your AT announced routes with BGP

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

On 23/Sep/15 23:38, Jason Bullen wrote: > I've always worked in enterprise only so I thought you guys might be able > to help me with this one. > We are dual homed to Verizon and AT We prepend all our prefixes out > AT to make them least preferred. During a recent issue we found some > users

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

On 24/Sep/15 15:21, William Herrin wrote: > Hi Jason, > > That's normal. Verizon does it too. Both have "community" tags which > you can attach to your route advertisement. Each will have one that > indicates they should give external routes the same "local pref" as > the route you announce to

Re: SPAM: AW: important

Strange as it has been listed in SURBL for ever since the site was cracked. scm-70.com.wild.surbl.org has address 127.0.0.68 > On Sep 24, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: > > This is unbelievable: > We have seen these kinds of spam-messages over the last weeks on

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Jason Bullen wrote: > So if my research is correct, the internet prefers Verizon UNLESS they are > a direct AT customer then they would use the AT circuit. > Is this a standard practice that I should assume to encounter? Hi Jason, That's

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

On 09/23/2015 02:38 PM, Jason Bullen wrote: I've always worked in enterprise only so I thought you guys might be able to help me with this one. We are dual homed to Verizon and AT We prepend all our prefixes out AT to make them least preferred. During a recent issue we found some users were

SPAM: AW: important

This is unbelievable: We have seen these kinds of spam-messages over the last weeks on different mail accounts and still Spamassassin & others don't recognize them. Isn't a topic of "Fw: important" compared with the greeting "Hey friend" something that must be spam? Now Nanog was hit which is

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

Stephen Satchell wrote on 9/24/2015 8:39 AM: On 09/23/2015 02:38 PM, Jason Bullen wrote: I've always worked in enterprise only so I thought you guys might be able to help me with this one. We are dual homed to Verizon and AT We prepend all our prefixes out AT to make them least preferred.

Re: Ear protection

I normally have a set of Sennheiser HD-380's or HD-280's with my laptop. They have pretty good isolation and seem to make a pretty good difference, also I can either hear my phone or play music with them. When I mow the yard I use a pair of Koss headphones that isolate almost as good as a set of

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

What Blake just said below works best - I do this MED together with small-ers all the way to india for video conferencing customers sitting in silicon valley. Thank You Bob Evans CTO > > > Stephen Satchell wrote on 9/24/2015 8:39 AM: >> On 09/23/2015 02:38 PM, Jason Bullen wrote: >>> I've

Re: Ear protection

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > be more expensive. $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher performance and much quieter. —Chris

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

Thank you all for answering. I was disregarding Local Pref because the route server I was on was showing 100. That was an error on my part though as it clearly states in the login banner that it is eBGP peering with the AT routers hence the local Pref would go back to 100 from its perspective.

Re: Ear protection

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:51:07AM -0500, Chris Boyd wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher

RE: Ear protection

For years we have used the Peltor/3M Bluetooth headsets in the datacenter. Proper hearing protection and noise cancelling mic, with the added bonus of protecting my head a bit when I am up on the ladder in the DC and can easily bang into potentially sharp things. http://goo.gl/ShTCEF They

Re: Ear protection

> > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >=20 > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it=E2=80=99s higher = > performance and much quieter. That's not typical

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

On 09/24/2015 07:05 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: However, the ultimate way to control routing would be to advertise more specific prefixes via the path that you want traffic to flow. Tried that, no joy.

Re: SPAM: AW: important

On 9/24/2015 9:20 AM, TR Shaw wrote: Strange as it has been listed in SURBL for ever since the site was cracked. fwiw, likewise, that same spammy domain has been on invaluement's URI blacklist since 9/17/2015 2:27 a.m. (+- a couple of minutes) -- Rob McEwen

ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

(Apologies for redistribution, but need to insure that this is seen by all in the region.) The IPv4 free pool for the ARIN region is now depleted; ISPs are encouraged to utilize IPv6 for additional customer growth and the IPv4 transfer market for their IPv4 interim needs. Thanks! /John John

Re: Service Providers behaviour for dual homed enterprises

Stephen Satchell wrote on 9/24/2015 11:00 AM: On 09/24/2015 07:05 AM, Blake Hudson wrote: However, the ultimate way to control routing would be to advertise more specific prefixes via the path that you want traffic to flow. Tried that, no joy. I could only assume then that your peers were

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:34 AM, John Curran wrote: > (Apologies for redistribution, but need to insure that this is seen by all > in the region.) > > The IPv4 free pool for the ARIN region is now depleted; ISPs are > encouraged to utilize > IPv6 for additional customer growth

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Let's say it's less than 1Tbit but based on the growth curve in recent weeks I'm not sure it will stay there. Jared Mauch > On Sep 24, 2015, at 11:55 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: > > Hi, > >> IPv6 traffic roughly doubled in my view of the internet in the past ~2 weeks >> as the 9.0 GM

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

= The whole reason for the inertia against going to IPv6 is "it ain't broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it." Now it's broke. = ^^^This ^^^ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Stephen Satchell"

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Remember, the Internet being fully migrated to IPv6 is just 5 yrs away just like fusion power plants is 20 yrs away (although I think now they are saying 50 yrs away which would make IPv6 12.5 yrs away). (=

Re: SPAM: AW: important

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 02:55:51PM +0200, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: > This is unbelievable: Yes, it is. Quoting back a spammer's entire message to the entire list, including the payload, is unbelievably stupid. It would have been better to call this to the attention of those charged with the

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or refurbed equipment find they need to change. The whole reason for

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Hi, > IPv6 traffic roughly doubled in my view of the internet in the past ~2 weeks > as the 9.0 GM image hit and the public release of 9.0 came out. 0.001% of traffic to 0.002% ;-) joking aside as I'm a big IPv6 champion IPv6 is picking up a lot recentlyand whilst the bahviour

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > > The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is > many software vendors still don't support it. > Open a ticket with your NOC or the customer support people if they can’t reach sites like

RE: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Let's just hope carriers don't try to fix IPv4 instead of going to IPv6. I'd like my children to grow up in a worlds without cgnat. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Satchell Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:38 PM To:

Re: [ih] Fiction->History

On 9/24/2015 10:56, Bill Ricker wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: Fiction->History ​There are two sorts of SciFi (aside from the Fantastic) - those that aren't facts yet​ ​but likely will be if we persevere, and ​those that could be facts

Re: LinkedIn contact

Done. On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Irwin, Kevin wrote: > Hello, if there is anyone from LinkedIn on the board, can you please > contact me offline? > > Thanks, > > Kevin Irwin > Network Engineer – Core Network Engineering > Cincinnati Bell Telephone > > "It has been

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their server infrastructure since aws is still v6 useless last i heard. Mike On 09/24/2015 04:33 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote: No doubt as an iOS/Apple developer for a hobby, they have been pretty forth coming on dual stack. It’s not

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

They're already trying - RFC 6598. On the flip side, I'm using subnets from that range for my home network instead of RFC 1918 space right now. --- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com https://itg.nu/ GPG

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

T-Mobile implemented 464XLAT successfully, but I have no idea how long they will still depend on IPv4 because of that setup. On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Steve Mikulasik wrote: > Let's just hope carriers don't try to fix IPv4 instead of going to IPv6. > I'd like

LinkedIn contact

Hello, if there is anyone from LinkedIn on the board, can you please contact me offline? Thanks, Kevin Irwin Network Engineer – Core Network Engineering Cincinnati Bell Telephone "It has been my observation that most people get ahead during the time that others waste.” -Henry Ford The

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC

Hi, I'm an engineer working on QUIC at Google. Sorry for the delayed response. This was an issue with QUIC traffic (from Chrome users) to Google for some users behind NATs. The issue started at small volumes on 2015-09-09 when we started rolling out an optimization to our frontends for QUIC

RE: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-ip Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address. Tony Patti CIO -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bob Evans Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:32 PM To:

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

> According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-= > ip > Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address. High dollar amounts for a single static IPv4 address are nothing new, and are IMHO a side effect of monopoly/duopoly last mile providers being able

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

I think the next requirement for iOS apps: "We ran your app on an IPv6 only network and it did not work. Your submission to the Apple store is therefore denied."

GeoIP information

How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct information for their address ranges? Do they just pay them to update it? At first I thought it had to do with whois data, but my home Verizon IP whois lists Ashburn, VA, yet the GeoIP data shows my local city. We're trying to

Re: GeoIP information

On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: Any advice would be awesome! There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical boundaries. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

IPv4's works better today than ever before. IP space in North America has now officially turned into a revenue source for networks. Most private enterprise customers understand costs and profits. Business does not understand free stuff in a free market. Hence, IPv4 is no longer free in a block

RE: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

I read an article from National Geographic from the early 90s about the conversion for CFCs to HCFC and I think IPv4 will transition similarly. I wish I could find the article on line, but I can't find it at all. It basically credited the speed of the transition (it was faster than most

Re: GeoIP information

Did that Wiki page ever come back up? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 24, 2015 7:01 PM, "Ian Clark" wrote: > How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct > information for

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

This has now been resolved. See recent post by ian swett in a separate thread about quic. T On Sep 24, 2015 1:12 AM, "Mike Meredith" wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:01:19 -0500, Sean Hunter > may have written: > > a) Has anyone here had a similar

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Franck Martin via NANOG wrote: > > I think the next requirement for iOS apps: "We ran your app on an IPv6 only > network and it did not work. Your submission to the Apple store is > therefore denied." That’s forthcoming.

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

No doubt as an iOS/Apple developer for a hobby, they have been pretty forth coming on dual stack. It’s not totally a requirement yet, but pretty much a BCOP:

Re: GeoIP information

I love OVH where they ask where you want your IP space to be geolocated, but it’s still France/Canada… Why ask, I guess it worked in the past? Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 > On Sep 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: >

Re: GeoIP information

On Sep 24, 2015 5:54 PM, "Ray Van Dolson" wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 08:47:56PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: > > >> Any advice would be

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > On Sep 24, 2015 5:54 PM, "Ray Van Dolson" wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 08:47:56PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: >> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins >> >

JANOG37 Meeting Call for Presentations

Hello, JANOG37 Meeting will take place on 20-22 January 2016 in Nagoya, Japan. http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG37_Meeting JANOG is making a call for presentations until 30 October 2015. Our meetings are in Japanese but we have had several non-Japanese speakers who made presentations

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. Regards, Dovid -Original Message- From: Ca By Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:46:31 To: John

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 2015-09-24 10:49, Dovid Bender wrote: The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. Regards, Dovid Actually, the issue now is convincing certain big providers to actually make IPv6 service available to their

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 24 September 2015 at 18:34, John Curran wrote: > In the future, any IPv4 address space that ARIN receives from IANA, or > recovers from revocations or returns from organizations, will be used to > satisfy approved requests on the Waiting List for Unmet Requests. > > > *If we

Re: GeoIP information

On 25 Sep 2015, at 8:02, Eric Tykwinski wrote: Why ask, I guess it worked in the past? Because folks need to obviate 'GeoIP' filtering so that their services/content can be accessed. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: GeoIP information

> Maxmind would have to violate ARIN's rules to collect your geoip > information through a feed of whois data. Those rules forbid > republication of the data. > > Try contacting them directly. Then download the files they publish and > check for yourself. > >

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:41:42PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > Where do GeoIP companies get their data, if not whois records? > > I would assume that they query whois for one of their sources. They > don't have to

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > I assumed it must be based off of WHOIS. The IP space I'm working with > is in the midwest (US). The address associated with it is from our > primary IP block out here in California, which it would have only been >

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

What people often miss is the front end doesn't need to be the same as the backend. The front should be v6, and using a service to do this for you isn't too hard. This is what many CDNs do. Jared Mauch > On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:57 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2015

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: >> Any advice would be awesome! > There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical > boundaries. Maxmind does not concur. Regards, Bill Herrin --

Re: GeoIP information

On 25 Sep 2015, at 7:47, William Herrin wrote: > Maxmind does not concur. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: [ih] Fiction->History

Larry Sheldon wrote: On 9/24/2015 10:56, Bill Ricker wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: Fiction->History ​There are two sorts of SciFi (aside from the Fantastic) - those that aren't facts yet​ ​but likely will be if we persevere, and

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Shouldn't 23.128.0.0/10 be put back into the pool? Ripe finished their test and this was a loaned block. Also with 16 million addresses in their reserved pool, did they really need to borrow this in the first place??

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Bryan Socha > wrote: Shouldn't 23.128.0.0/10 be put back into the pool? Bryan - 23.128.0.0/10 isn’t on loan to RIPE; it is the permanently reserved block for IPv6 transition (see ARIN

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: >> >> The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other >> issue is many software vendors still don't support it. > > > And this may trigger a refresh on

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 08:47:56PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2015, at 5:58, Ian Clark wrote: > >> Any advice would be awesome! > > There is no inherent correlation between IP addressing and geopolitical

Re: GeoIP information

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Where do GeoIP companies get their data, if not whois records? I would assume that they query whois for one of their sources. They don't have to enter any contract with ARIN to do so but they also can't promptly collect

Re: GeoIP information

Is there anyone here who has successfully changed their GeoIP data for a subset of their ARIN allocation? How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies to have correct information for their address ranges? Do they just pay them to update it? At first I thought it had to do with whois data,

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:39:54 -0700, Michael Thomas said: > That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their > server infrastructure since aws is > still v6 useless last i heard. I wonder if a sudden exodus of customers whose iOS app got axed because it can't contact an