TWC / XO Chicago?

Anyone know what is going on?

Re: IPv6 Irony.

Mark Andrews wrote: >>> Customer support, especially network troubleshootings and so on... >> >> Customer support for IPv6 costs a lot, at least because of: >> >> 1) Unnecessarily lengthy IP addresses, not recognized by most, if not >>all, customers >> >> 2) Lack of so promised

RE: IGP choice

Just use rip for *everything* Problem solved! -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:41 AM To: marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IGP choice On 22/Oct/15 18:57,

RE: IGP choice

And Windows Server for your routing platform of choice! -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Damien Burke Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:12 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: IGP choice Just use rip for *everything* Problem solved!

Re: IGP choice

On 22/Oct/15 21:35, Dave Bell wrote: > I'm unsure if this is a serious argument, but its such a poor point > today. Everything has to be connected to a level 2 in IS-IS. If you > want a flat area 0 network in OSPF, go nuts. As long as you are > sensible about what you put in your IGP, both

Re: IGP choice

On 22/Oct/15 18:57, marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Anybody from Yahoo to share experience on IGP choice ? > IS-IS vs OSPF, why did you switch from one to the other, for what > reason ? > Same question could apply to other ISP, I'd like to heard some > international

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Re: IGP choice

* marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr (marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr) [Thu 22 Oct 2015, 18:57 CEST]: Anybody from Yahoo to share experience on IGP choice ? What a weird way to limit your audience. This is NANOG, not Yahoo. Otherwise, http://userpages.umbc.edu/~vijay/work/ppt/oi.pdf -- Niels.

Re: IGP choice

Hi, > The differences between the two protocols are so small, that people > really grasp at straws when 'proving' that one is better over the > other. 'IS-IS doesn't work over IP, so its more secure'. 'IS-IS uses > TLVs so new features are quicker to implement'. While these may be > vaguely valid

Re: IGP choice

On 22 October 2015 at 19:41, Mark Tinka wrote: > The "everything must connect to Area 0" requirement of OSPF was limiting > for me back in 2008. I'm unsure if this is a serious argument, but its such a poor point today. Everything has to be connected to a level 2 in IS-IS.

Re: Current IPv4 Options

Chris Knipe writes: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Clay Curtis wrote: > >> I work for a VAR and we are starting to have customers come to us to help >> with internet redundancy projects and they are unable to get address space >> from ARIN. What are

Re: IGP choice

On 22 October 2015 at 22:57, wrote: > - Needing OSPFv3 for IPv6 when you're alredy running OSPFv2 for IPv4 > is less than optimal. I believe nowadays several vendors support > OSPFv3 for both IPv4 and IPv6 - but this is not universal. > Our configuration is MPLS VPNv6 for

Re: IGP choice

I don't have all the details because I don't fully understand it, but I've heard that if you're running an MPLS/RSVP core, you can only use a single OSPF area. This introduces a scalability ceiling. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dave Bell wrote: > On 22 October 2015 at

RE: TWC / XO Chicago?

With TWC /XO, or just in general? -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mikeal Clark Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:44 PM To: NANOG ‎[nanog@nanog.org]‎ Subject: TWC / XO Chicago? Anyone know what is going on? This electronic mail

Re: TWC / XO Chicago?

Looks like XO is having an issue. Anything I have that routes through them in Chicago is dropping but I don't see anyone talking about it. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Gareth Tupper > wrote: > > With TWC /XO, or just in general? > >

Re: IGP choice

It comes down to personal preference now days in my opinion. Both ISIS and OSPFv3 allow you to run multi-af using the same protocol. Both of them dont run full SPF when a stub network is added/removed (unlike OSPFv2). How about vendor support? Perhaps ISIS has the upper hand here since its been

Re: IGP choice

You still have separate tables for IPv4 and IPv6 with isis and multi-topology still runs 2 spf calculations. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:05 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > > The differences between the two protocols are so small, that people > > really grasp at straws when

Re: IGP choice

"marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr" writes: > Hi everyone, > > Anybody from Yahoo to share experience on IGP choice ? > IS-IS vs OSPF, why did you switch from one to the other, for what reason ? > Same question could apply to other ISP, I'd like to heard some > international

Re: Current IPv4 Options

Sitting in exactly the same position. IPv6 is great and all, but running my business natively on IPv6 means nothing to me if my customers can't reach me. Dang! It is a bloody shame that the PTB (or was it the Cabal?) did not see fit to tell us this might happen some day so we could have

Re: IGP choice

> > The differences between the two protocols are so small, that people > > really grasp at straws when 'proving' that one is better over the > > other. 'IS-IS doesn't work over IP, so its more secure'. 'IS-IS uses > > TLVs so new features are quicker to implement'. While these may be > > vaguely

Re: Current IPv4 Options

In message <56295a09.5050...@cox.net>, Larry Sheldon writes: > > > Sitting in exactly the same position. IPv6 is great and all, but running > > my business natively on IPv6 means nothing to me if my customers can't > > reach me. > > Dang! It is a bloody shame that the PTB (or was it the

Re: IGP choice

OK I will bite - Yes, RIP everything and let'em all Rest-In-Peace. My 0.02cents about OP's question- "Scale" and Admin-headaches: IS-IS scales far better than OSPF. Admin-headaches - as your OSPF domain grows, do you want to continually re-design; create more areas? You definitely don't want

Re: Current IPv4 Options

If you need it long term and can afford the upfront cost, there is still plenty of space you can find for sale. If you are not quite sure how long you will require it or are on a lower budget, leasing it probably a better option. -Alex On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Clay Curtis

Current IPv4 Options

I work for a VAR and we are starting to have customers come to us to help with internet redundancy projects and they are unable to get address space from ARIN. What are the viable options here? I have read about secondary markets, transfers, auction sites, leasing, etc. Can NANOG point me in

Re: Current IPv4 Options

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Clay Curtis wrote: > I work for a VAR and we are starting to have customers come to us to help > with internet redundancy projects and they are unable to get address space > from ARIN. What are the viable options here? I have read about

RE: IPv6 Irony.

Can anyone tell me if the document he linked is work reading? I am currently connected to an IPv6 only network and can't get to it. Thank you, - Nich Warren > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Masataka Ohta > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015

RE: IPv6 Irony.

Worth* Thank you, - Nich Warren > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Warren > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:26 AM > To: Masataka Ohta > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: IPv6 Irony. > > Can anyone tell me if the document he

Re: IGP choice

On 22/Oct/15 23:22, Bill Blackford wrote: > I don't have all the details because I don't fully understand it, but > I've heard that if you're running an MPLS/RSVP core, you can only use > a single OSPF area. This introduces a scalability ceiling. Not true. The rate of development of advanced

Re: IPv6 Irony.

Couldn't tell you: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #50.b301e78e.1445526611.3125864 Masataka: Is there an alt link? It sounds like it could be an interesting read. -- Hugo h...@slabnet.com: email, xmpp/jabber PGP fingerprint (B178313E): CF18 15FA 9FE4 0CD1 2319

Re: Current IPv4 Options

We recently went through this. After looking around for a bit I found good prices with both IPTrading.com and IPv4Auctions.com. I ended up going with IPv4 auctions.com. The purchasing process was pretty painless, however before I did that I went through the ARIN pre-approval process which was

Re: Current IPv4 Options

On 10/22/2015 07:24 AM, Clay Curtis wrote: I work for a VAR and we are starting to have customers come to us to help with internet redundancy projects and they are unable to get address space from ARIN. What are the viable options here? I have read about secondary markets, transfers, auction

IGP choice

Hi everyone, Anybody from Yahoo to share experience on IGP choice ? IS-IS vs OSPF, why did you switch from one to the other, for what reason ? Same question could apply to other ISP, I'd like to heard some international ISP/carriers design choice, please. Thank in advance, Best regards,