Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 10/26/2015 05:40 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > The Pony Express has been dead for years, what DO you use if email > doesn't work? Usenet & email via UUCP. -- Grant. . . . unix || die P.S. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

thank you Re: spam smackdown?

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:03:26PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > 3) Anyone who feels this is so frickin??? bad it is unbearable, and knows > they could do SO MUCH BETTER themselves, should volunteer for the > Communications Committee. Otherwise, everyone should thank the unpaid > volunteers

Re: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/26/2015 22:26, Andrew Kirch wrote: not even close to more discussing than from the original spam. Not even close. Not even in the same order of magnitude, I don't think. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/26/2015 22:16, Randy Bush wrote: now that the number of messages discussing the spam has exceed the number of spam messages, perhaps we can get back to work and hope that the list admins have learned something. A couple of factoids that might be useful in realizing the hope. The mail han

Re: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Kirch
not even close to more discussing than from the original spam. Not even close. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Steve Mikulasik wrote: > I think there might be more emails discussing the spam, than the actual > spam itself. > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@na

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Randy Bush
now that the number of messages discussing the spam has exceed the number of spam messages, perhaps we can get back to work and hope that the list admins have learned something. randy

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Avi Freedman
> All, > > I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall > network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity > back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is > like from CableVision in central NJ to your netwo

Re: improved NANOG filtering

2015-10-26 Thread Barry Shein
What's needed is 20 (pick a number) trusted volunteer admins with the mailman password whose only capacity is to (make a list: put the list into moderation mode, disable an acct). Obviously it would be nice if the software could help with this (limited privileges, logging) but it could be done ju

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Dovid Bender
All, Sorry for not clarifying. Of course we have probes and looking glasses from the edge of each others networks. The point was to have devices where we could see how our content loaded and behaved. For instance if a Verizon user tries to place a VoIP call to my network what would the quality

Re: Android lack of DHCPv6 purchasing decisions?

2015-10-26 Thread Owen DeLong
If your enterprise depends on DHCPv6 for a variety of NAC or other related things, then it’s not so absurd to prohibit a platform that fails to support it. OTOH, Apple refuses to implement 464Xlat, which (at least so far) means no IPv6 on T-Mo due to opposing brain damage on the T-Mo side. So far

Re: AW: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 26/10/15 11:38, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: > Hi, > > I added this two lines to our postfix header checks: > > /mike@sentex\.net/ DISCARD > /jdenoy@jdlabs\.fr/ DISCARD > > Worked very well: > > # grep -i discard /var/log/mail.log | grep -iE "@jdlabs|@sentex" | wc -l > 408 But it is originating a

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 10/26/2015 04:40 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: Whats a Twitter? Is it IRC on a web-page for the addle, sort of like a "web-forum" is Usenet for the addle? Never used a "Twitter". Web Forums rately. The 1 D 10 T quotient is too high .. The Pony Express has been dead for years, what DO you use

Satellites and submarine cables

2015-10-26 Thread Sean Donelan
Since the weekend's list problems seem to have died down. How about some infrastructure news. http://spacenews.com/from-russia-some-unofficial-assurance-about-lurking-luch-satellites-intent/ From Russia, Unofficial Assurance about Intent of Lurking Luch Satellite http://www.nytimes.com/20

[reminder] JANOG37 Meeting Call for Presentations

2015-10-26 Thread MAWATARI Masataka
Hello, JANOG37 Meeting will take place on 20-22 January 2016 in Nagoya, Japan. http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG37_Meeting JANOG is making a call for presentations. We are still looking for presentation proposals! CFP deadline is 14:59 Fri 30 October [UTC]. Let us know if you have an

RE: NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Brian R
Thank you Larry and Job for the responses, mitigation steps taken, and work to further resolve these kind of events. Food for thought for the rest of us out there. Had there been a network attack on Sunday (for example) and several of these lists (multiple received this spam "attack") were sw

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Jared Mauch
Gopher or Archie anyone? These newfangled things confuse me. http://youtu.be/V8YBuwmtzYE Jared Mauch > On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Alan Buxey wrote: > > I was looking out for the sub-Reddit thread ;) > > alan

Re: NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Thank you team On Monday, October 26, 2015, Job Snijders wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:17:37PM -0400, Larry Blunk wrote: > >Just wanted to apologize for the attack over the weekend. The > > posts came from a email address that was subscribed to the list, so > > it was not subjected to

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/26/2015 18:31, Keith Medcalf wrote: Myth: blah blah blah social media is a bad way to get ahold of netops/abuse. Fact: Social media is an acceptable way to report abuse. My marketing department certainly knows how to get ahold of me when such an issue occurs. It's 2015, and if you and ev

Re: NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Shrdlu
On 10/26/2015 3:00 PM, Job Snijders wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:17:37PM -0400, Larry Blunk wrote: Just wanted to apologize for the attack over the weekend. The posts came from a email address that was subscribed to the list, so it was not subjected to moderation. While a filter was a

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Alan Buxey
Indeed. They just need more places across the world hosting Anchors :) alan

Re: improved NANOG filtering

2015-10-26 Thread Rob McEwen
On 10/26/2015 5:15 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: And the first person who says “who has seen $URL” or similar in a message gets bounced, then bitches about “operational nature” of NANOG. I think it is probably not a great idea to add things like URI checkers to NANOG. We can bitch & moan about

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Alan Buxey
I was looking out for the sub-Reddit thread ;) alan

RE: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Keith Medcalf
> Myth: blah blah blah social media is a bad way to get ahold of > netops/abuse. > Fact: Social media is an acceptable way to report abuse. My marketing > department certainly knows how to get ahold of me when such an issue > occurs. It's 2015, and if you and everyone you know isn't watching twit

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Alan Buxey
There's also probably a large number of people gnashing their teeth that all of these compromised sites have been so readily identified by a very basic spam scam. A massive waste of opportunity for real black hats alan

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote: > > Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 > > spam messages in 3 days? Because NANOG is an opt-in list, and they're not the origin of abuse. Their software might have inadvertently forwarded junk to the memb

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Amen! Comms team let us know if there is anything we can do to support you otherwise thanks in advance for fixing this issue. Mehmet On Monday, October 26, 2015, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Myth: Andrew’s post has utility to the 10K+ people reading it. (Not > watching Twitter makes me braindea

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/26/2015 13:17, Jim Mercer wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: This spam is ridiculous! it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really complained or even commented on it until this morning. so, yeah, maybe the list is on auto-pi

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 10/26/2015 02:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Otherwise, simply thank them for doing what you refuse to do and get on with your life. Thank you, communications committee, for the work you do. Also, if you think what happened was a spam flood, you are very lucky. While a mail admin and ve

Re: NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Mike
Larry, Thank you for the work you and others do behind the scenes to make the nanog list available and functional. Mike- On 10/26/2015 12:17 PM, Larry Blunk wrote: All, Just wanted to apologize for the attack over the weekend. The posts came from a email address that was subscribe

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Rob McEwen
On 10/26/2015 3:25 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote: What's the exploit that corrupted the sites? ... All the sites that I checked (without the added suffix) seem legit. But maybe they are spammer sites? How do we know? Most involve wordpress vulnerabilities that a spammer exploited, where t

Re: NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:17:37PM -0400, Larry Blunk wrote: >Just wanted to apologize for the attack over the weekend. The > posts came from a email address that was subscribed to the list, so > it was not subjected to moderation. While a filter was added > to block further posts (which were

Re: improved NANOG filtering

2015-10-26 Thread Blake Dunlap
Please stop using this as an opportunity to spam your commercial anti-spam list ffs On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Rob McEwen wrote: > On 10/26/2015 12:06 PM, Job Snijders wrote: >> >> I expect some protection mechanisms will be implemented, >> rather sooner then later, to prevent this sty

"no more spam" isn't emough

2015-10-26 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 11:29 -0700, Stephen Satchell wrote: > No coding required, just used Thunderbird's facility. Eight seconds > start to finish. No more spam. Filtering at the endpoint is good for reducing the number of times someone has to click "Delete". For those of us in regions with in

Re: Fw: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Niels Bakker
* jle...@lewis.org (Jon Lewis) [Mon 26 Oct 2015, 22:14 CET]: Who's been "running" this runaway train of a mailing list...and who would someone talk to about volunteering to help manage/moderate it? The moderators actually stepped in quickly, but they did not have filesystem access for the nece

Re: RFP for Internet Transit for ARIN ASN 10745 (at Ashburn, Virginia, USA)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Do you pay in v4 address space? :-) -- TTFN, patrick > On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:35 PM, John Curran wrote: > > NANOGers - > > If you are interested in providing transit for ARIN, please see the > attached RFP announcement. > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > ARIN >

Re: improved NANOG filtering

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
> If you really are a NANOG admin, I suggest adding some kind of URI filtering > for blocking the message based on the the domains/IPs found in the clickable > links in the body of the message. And the first person who says “who has seen $URL” or similar in a message gets bounced, then bitches

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Myth: Andrew’s post has utility to the 10K+ people reading it. (Not watching Twitter makes me braindead? really? Yeah, it’s 2015. Get up-to-date, should have sent a snapchat. Duh.) Fact: Andrew should probably just un-sub since he finds NANOG useless. That would actually provide utility to the

RE: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Steve Mikulasik
I think there might be more emails discussing the spam, than the actual spam itself. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ian Smith Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:34 PM To: Paras Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Uptick in spam Filtering *@jdl

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/26/15 12:30 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 10/25/15 15:22, Randy Bush wrote: you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into its se

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/26/15 11:21 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 10/25/2015 17:56, Brielle Bruns wrote: This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with mod or admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and deal with this? You can find people who have been convinced that NANOG

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Connor Wilkins
On 2015-10-26 18:17, Jim Mercer wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: This spam is ridiculous! it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really complained or even commented on it until this morning. so, yeah, maybe the list is on auto-

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Kirch
The unequal treatment we see here is why, so many years ago, I fought and threatened to rhsbl .mail. We've built the walled garden anyway, and now we're damned for it. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Chris Knipe wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > > you might thin

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Kirch
It's insane to claim this when I sent several e-mails, and tweets to NANOG this weekend, and even requested an offlist contact from NANOG's upstream. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Jim Mercer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: > > This spam is ridiculous! >

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Kirch
I have been getting these all weekend as well, and am well over 200. Pings via Twitter, and attempts to contact NANOG's upstream (SCNET) via NANOG have gone unanswered. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 10/26/15 11:24 AM, Joe Abley wrote: > >> On Oct 26, 2015, at 13:10,

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Jim Mercer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: > > This spam is ridiculous! > > it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really > complained or even commented on it until this morning. > > so, yeah, maybe the list

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/26/15 12:17 PM, Jim Mercer wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: This spam is ridiculous! it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really complained or even commented on it until this morning. so, yeah, maybe the list is on auto-p

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Tom Taylor
On 26/10/2015 3:00 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It isn't a quick flip of a switch would be my guess. It is indeed much simpler and can even be done via a mobile device from anywhere in the world. The magic sauce: Moderate the user account

Re: NX-OS as LSR router

2015-10-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 25/Oct/15 14:50, marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr wrote: > related to the discussion about IGP choice, I had a quick look and > found that NX-OS ISIS for IPv6 support is quiet recent. Was not > supported on 5.x, but it supported on 7.x (2015). > > This might explain why not so many ISP use NX-OS. D

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , James Bensley writes: > These are "open" projects that ISPs can join to monitor performance > between networks, I would recommend joining those instead of > reinventing the wheel. > > I don't how much scope or interest there would be just for a raw speed > test between networks thou

Re: Is anyone tracking the "Fw: New Message" joe-job spammer?

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > I have 521 messages that match: > To: nanog* > Subject:new message > > In the last week. Obviously that includes things like Jay’s message below, > but still a lot more than 100. > > It also hit outag

Re: All in favor or.....

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 10/25/2015 10:35, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> All in favor of 9x5 network operations say aye. > > > "9x5"? Well who really works 8 hours a day? -Jim P.

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Chris Knipe
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > It is indeed much simpler and can even be done via a mobile device > from anywhere in the world. The magic sauce: Moderate the user > account being abused to post to this list. > Yep - saw ONE message on AFNOG, and that was the end of

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 10/26/15 1:10 PM, Pablo Lucena wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Can we please get a filter for messages with the subject "Fw: new message" ??? ​So far I've dealt with it via Gmail's 'mute conversation' setting somewhat effectively.​ Gmail was smart enough to

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Josh Luthman wrote: > > It's mailman - I believe there's a moderation switch to stop all messages > > dead in their tracks for approval. I've used it before, but don't remember > > the exact name of the feature in the mailman admin UI. http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/admin/

NANOG list attack

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Blunk
All, Just wanted to apologize for the attack over the weekend. The posts came from a email address that was subscribed to the list, so it was not subjected to moderation. While a filter was added to block further posts (which were made in a short time window), there were existing message que

Re: Fw: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Several points. 1. It wasn't just NANOG. A number of other mailing lists were targeted. Whether or not all these attacks were launched by the same entity is unknown and probably unknowable. 2. The adm...@nanog.org address appears to be unresponsive. Is there actually anyone reading that? If s

Re: spam smackdown?

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: >> It looks like someone's trying to make a point. > > The takeaway is: > > 1) NANOG doesn't seem to do simple inbound spam filtering :-) In fairness to the Communications Committee (of

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Arturo Servin
There are a plenty of services/research doing that. M-Lab RIPE Atlas Speedtest to name some. .as On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 at 10:35 Dovid Bender wrote: > All, > > I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every > EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and

RE: spam smackdown?

2015-10-26 Thread Kain, Rebecca (.)
I love all the email about spam -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ishmael Rufus Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM To: sur...@mauigateway.com Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: spam smackdown? "It looks like someone's trying to make a point" Must be a

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Alan Buxey
What, like RIPE NCC ? :) alan

Re: spam smackdown?

2015-10-26 Thread Todd Underwood
luckily, many of us saw almost none of this spam due to effective inbound spam filtering on our accounts. which is awesome. i did, however, manage to see lots of messages from people complaining about the spam that they did receive. :-) t On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:

SPAM solutions (to prevent mass emails from ever happening again)

2015-10-26 Thread David Bass
Considering the latest mass SPAM attack I have determined that action must be taken to prevent this from ever happening again! It is obvious that email servers are to blame, as without them SPAMmers would not be able to carry out their vicious attacks. We therefore must outlaw all email servers,

Re: Fw: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Chris Knipe wrote: Dear NANOG Moderators, Sorry but after two DAYS of this crap... Are you planning to do something about all of this spam? I think they've ordered more alcohol. If they run out, they might have to actually do some work. Can't have that. Who's been "r

Re: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Ishmael Rufus
Hey! Maybe this is relevant: On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Paras wrote: > I see it too, there are some 517 messages in my spam folder "New message" > > Most of them get blocked, but a small fraction are still making it i

improved NANOG filtering

2015-10-26 Thread Rob McEwen
On 10/26/2015 12:06 PM, Job Snijders wrote: I expect some protection mechanisms will be implemented, rather sooner then later, to prevent this style of incident from happening again. Job, I can't tell for sure if you're a NANOG admin? Or if you're making educated guesses about what you think

AW: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Hi, I added this two lines to our postfix header checks: /mike@sentex\.net/ DISCARD /jdenoy@jdlabs\.fr/ DISCARD Worked very well: # grep -i discard /var/log/mail.log | grep -iE "@jdlabs|@sentex" | wc -l 408 Best regards Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network & Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstl

Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Kirch
All, Myth: NANOG supposed to be the gold standard for best practices. Fact: 500 spam messages over the weekend. Myth: there were no complaints and this issue was raised over the weekend Fact: I raised it this weekend via twitter twice @NANOG, and requested contact from SCNET (NANOG's upstream) t

RFP for Internet Transit for ARIN ASN 10745 (at Ashburn, Virginia, USA)

2015-10-26 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - If you are interested in providing transit for ARIN, please see the attached RFP announcement. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN mailto:i...@arin.net>> Date: October 26, 2015 at 2:00:26 PM EDT To: mailto:arin-annou...@arin.

Re: Uptick in spam

2015-10-26 Thread Ian Smith
Filtering *@jdlabs.fr did the trick for me. Of course, now I have to write a much more complex filter to hide all the complaining about NANOG spam :) Ian Smith 161 South St. Hightstown, NJ 201-315-1316 phone ian.w.sm...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/25/15 15:22, Randy Bush wrote: you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into its second day. Maybe a committee with authori

Re: Fw: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 10/25/2015 03:55 PM, Jason Baugher wrote: This is getting really old. Yep, so old I put in a filter to shunt them away to the trash. It's the same subject line, so it's easy to filter out. No coding required, just used Thunderbird's facility. Eight seconds start to finish. No more spa

RE: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Nick Ellermann
Dovid, What features are you thinking that would be useful? Latency, QoS, Tracert, AS Hops, etc? Many networks have the OOkla speedtest server hung off a link from their website or even some flavor of a Looking Glass site. Having yet another platform maybe difficult for the ISP to participate,

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Mercer
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: > This spam is ridiculous! it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really complained or even commented on it until this morning. so, yeah, maybe the list is on auto-pilot, which is totally understandable. ho

Re: All in favor or.....

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > If all the complaining waits until Monday morning, why fix it over the > weekend? If people only looked at received headers.. -Jim P.

Re: new message

2015-10-26 Thread Daniel Corbe
Everyone else is getting them too. You can easily snag them with an appropriate procmail filter though: :0: * ^Subject:.*Fw: new message Maildir/.Junk/ -Daniel Matt Hoppes writes: > Am I the only one getting these messages repeatedly for the last day??? > >> On Oct 24, 2015, at 21:35, Ricky

Re: All in favor or.....

2015-10-26 Thread Matthew Kaufman
If all the complaining waits until Monday morning, why fix it over the weekend? Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > All in favor of 9x5 network operations say aye. > > Geeze. > > -Jim P.

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > > All, > > I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall > network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity > back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Chris Knipe
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that > there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who > would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into > its second day. > > I'd ac

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that > there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who > would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into > its second day. I’ll cert

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/25/2015 17:22, Randy Bush wrote: you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into its second day. I have been discarding it for

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Sun 2015-Oct-25 19:49:50 +, Dovid Bender wrote: All, I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is li

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/26/15 11:24 AM, Joe Abley wrote: On Oct 26, 2015, at 13:10, Brielle Bruns wrote: This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with mod or admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and deal with this? I asked a similar question myself on another lis

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread James Bensley
These are "open" projects that ISPs can join to monitor performance between networks, I would recommend joining those instead of reinventing the wheel. I don't how much scope or interest there would be just for a raw speed test between networks though, however if enough networks really wanted it y

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Royce Williams
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Pablo Lucena wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > > Can we please get a filter for messages with the subject "Fw: new > message" > > ??? > > > ​So far I've dealt with it via Gmail's 'mute conversatio

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
Correction: it's already translated to english: http://www.isptools.com.br/?locale=en_US Regards, -- Eduardo Schoedler 2015-10-26 15:38 GMT-02:00 Eduardo Schoedler : > Hi Dovid, > > We have in Brazil a project like this. > It's called ISPTools: www.isptools.com.br. > > Everyone can host a nod

Re: Can someone do something about this "Fw: New message" spam?

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/25/2015 13:22, Paul S. wrote: Hi, Can someone from the moderator team take a look? This has been going on for a while. For a week or two, I think. Why the sudden interest? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
Hi Dovid, We have in Brazil a project like this. It's called ISPTools: www.isptools.com.br. Everyone can host a node, it's a simple nodejs. The author is very receptive, you can contact him to translate the site. Regards. -- Eduardo Schoedler 2015-10-25 17:49 GMT-02:00 Dovid Bender : > All

Re: EyeBall View

2015-10-26 Thread Brian Rak
So you've invented RIPE ATLAS? On 10/25/2015 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: All, I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what

Re: Can someone do something about this "Fw: New message" spam?

2015-10-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 03:22:19 +0900, "Paul S." said: > Hi, > > Can someone from the moderator team take a look? procmail is your friend. pgp75B3w_nmxX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Is anyone tracking the "Fw: New Message" joe-job spammer?

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
I have 521 messages that match: To: nanog* Subject:new message In the last week. Obviously that includes things like Jay’s message below, but still a lot more than 100. It also hit outages@, and probably other places. Of course, I’m very upset about that. Aft

Re: NX-OS as LSR router

2015-10-26 Thread David Bass
There are ISP using NX-OS...just in the DC where it belongs (since the Nexus platform is designed for the data center). I don't think it has anything to do with IS-IS support though (although it may help sway some people now). > On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:50 AM, "marcel.durega...@yahoo.fr" > wrote

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Joe Abley
On Oct 26, 2015, at 13:10, Brielle Bruns wrote: > This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with mod or > admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and deal with this? I asked a similar question myself on another list. But then after a minute's reflectio

Re: All in favor or.....

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/25/2015 10:35, Jim Popovitch wrote: All in favor of 9x5 network operations say aye. "9x5"? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/25/2015 17:56, Brielle Bruns wrote: This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with mod or admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and deal with this? You can find people who have been convinced that NANOG is fundamentally pro-abuse because to many

Re: All in favor or.....

2015-10-26 Thread John McAlpine
Aye On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > All in favor of 9x5 network operations say aye. > > Geeze. > > -Jim P. >

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
That would be a lot of work to keep up with, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 10/26/15 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> It isn't a quick flip of a switch would b

Re: The spam is real

2015-10-26 Thread Randy Carpenter
I have to hand it to EdgeWave (with whom I have a very tumultuous love/hate relationship) for catching this flood from the very first message. thanks, -Randy - On Oct 25, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: > Can we please get a filter for messages with the

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/26/15 10:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: It isn't a quick flip of a switch would be my guess. It's mailman - I believe there's a moderation switch to stop all messages dead in their tracks for approval. I've used it before, but don't remember the exact name of the feature in the mailman adm

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > It isn't a quick flip of a switch would be my guess. > It is indeed much simpler and can even be done via a mobile device from anywhere in the world. The magic sauce: Moderate the user account being abused to post to this list. -Jim P.

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

2015-10-26 Thread Bob Evans
My spam filtering must be working correctly. Because, I have only seen 1 or 2...this may be the case for those with the privs. Thank You Bob Evans CTO > This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with > mod or admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and

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