Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016, Jeremy Austin wrote: Let me be a consumer advocate for a moment. One of the reasons consumers are averse to usage-based billing is that the tech industry has not put good tools into their hands. While it is possible to disable automatic updates, set Windows 10's network set

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 08:01 , Jeremy Austin wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> >> The best solution for everybody is the solution most consumers are adverse >> to, which is usage based billing. Granted, many times the providers have >> shot themselves in the fo

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Andrew Kirch
I have an idea. Indianapolis Cybercrime should stop playing politics and treat people like me who are willing to help, and were hugely successful with respect, and not like a mob informant. That said, post Snowden, I doubt I would go back... even with Brian Kils bullshit. Andrew D Kirch. On Sund

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:45:25 -0500, "Eric Rogers" said: > Thank you for all that have responded, and this response has been the > majority, to leave well enough alone. I guess I was hoping that maybe I could > offer a new way to help narrow this search down. The only thing that's more likely to g

RE: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Eric Rogers
Thank you for all that have responded, and this response has been the majority, to leave well enough alone. I guess I was hoping that maybe I could offer a new way to help narrow this search down. It has been extremely frustrating to see someone so blatantly cocky in how he is taunting the aut

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Scott Fisher
Report it to the authorities and trust that they can handle it,..no matter how difficult that is. Remember your place that you are just the admin/operator and not the hero. If they need your help, law enforcement will ask for it. Sucks but what would you do if you found his IP address? Go to his h

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread John R. Levine
Given that a lot of these updates are happening in the background without any interaction with the users maybe for your customers, but not so true for our user base or others with which i have experience. wise folk want control of patching. and it's not only IT departments, but end users. Th

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
John Doe end user doesn't even know what updating is, much less wants to control it or even do it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Randy Bush" To: "John Levine" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Gr

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Notmatt Pleaseignore
I think if the FBI wants your help, they'll let you know. In the meantime, I would probably avoid anything that looked like you are spying on your customers, especially if you are explicitly targeting customers who are attempting to anonymize their traffic (for whatever reason). No matter how well

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Todd Crane via NANOG
I’m pretty sure that is what TOR was designed to prevent. While your intent may be altruistic, technologically speaking, there is no difference between that and say Iran or China sniffing out traffic. > On Jan 10, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: > > Is there any way to sniff for that ty

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Ishmael Rufus
I'll keep a look out On Sun, Jan 10, 2016, 5:02 PM Eric Rogers wrote: > Our local community has recently had threats where the user has a > FaceBook profile and is threatening the schools, and several surrounding > schools, saying he is going to shoot everyone and blow them up... This > is an in

Re: Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Even if you find somebody running TOR, you can't see inside it. They also could simply be running an exit node, or $reason. On Jan 10, 2016 5:02 PM, "Eric Rogers" wrote: > Our local community has recently had threats where the user has a > FaceBook profile and is threatening the schools, and seve

Anonymous Threats

2016-01-10 Thread Eric Rogers
Our local community has recently had threats where the user has a FaceBook profile and is threatening the schools, and several surrounding schools, saying he is going to shoot everyone and blow them up... This is an investigation, but it is getting out of hand. Several police/FBI raids, but yielde

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Randy Bush
>>> as for carriers pipes...will, if multicast was seriously taken up >>> then eg OS updates could be streamed out on regular updates > > Given that a lot of these updates are happening in the background > without any interaction with the users maybe for your customers, but not so true for our us

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread John Levine
>> as for carriers pipes...will, if multicast was seriously taken up then eg OS >> updates could be streamed out on regular updates Given that a lot of these updates are happening in the background without any interaction with the users, I'd think they'd be ideal for network-un-neutral traffic sha

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Max Tulyev
(chewing my pop-corn) Eh... I would like to have that kind of problems! Here we sell a residental 1Gbps for $5/mo with really unlimited traffic, and have a lot of complaint calls if there is slightly less than 1Gbps for that particular users. THAT is how the high competitive market works! ;) On

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:04:13 +, Alan Buxey said: > as for carriers pipes...will, if multicast was seriously taken up then eg OS > updates could be streamed out on regular updates You can multicast the Super Bowl, because to a rather high rate of accuracy you can assume that everybody who want

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Alan Buxey wrote: > For the sake of security of all internet connected hosts - especially in this > new era of even more IOT junk , security updates, firmware and new OS > updates should be granted libre data rates so that users who keep their > devices updated

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Alan Buxey
For the sake of security of all internet connected hosts - especially in this new era of even more IOT junk , security updates, firmware and new OS updates should be granted libre data rates so that users who keep their devices updated are not penalised. as for carriers pipes...will, if multi

Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

2016-01-10 Thread Alex Buie
Ugh, I had to deal with this almost daily at $large_metered_us_carrier. We have WiFi hotspots and USB modems and inevitably the customers who usually use <2GB and have plans based on that usage got slapped with huge Windows 10 overages. Explaining that no, your "geebee" meter isn't broken, Microsof