Re: Building a technical library

2016-05-31 Thread alvin nanog
hi ya chris On 05/31/16 at 08:53pm, Ca By wrote: > On Tuesday, May 31, 2016, Chris Costa wrote: > > > Looking to develop a technical library for about 15 staff members all under > > the same roof. Subject matter would focus around Juniper/Junos, TCP/IP, > > dwdm, python, java, and expand from

Re: Building a technical library

2016-05-31 Thread Ca By
On Tuesday, May 31, 2016, Chris Costa wrote: > Looking to develop a technical library for about 15 staff members all under > the same roof. Subject matter would focus around Juniper/Junos, TCP/IP, > dwdm, python, java, and expand from there. The O'reilly Safari service > looks rather comprehens

Building a technical library

2016-05-31 Thread Chris Costa
Looking to develop a technical library for about 15 staff members all under the same roof. Subject matter would focus around Juniper/Junos, TCP/IP, dwdm, python, java, and expand from there. The O'reilly Safari service looks rather comprehensive, although at $400/user there may be more value buyi

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Owen DeLong
> On May 31, 2016, at 12:05 , Miles Fidelman wrote: > > On 5/31/16 2:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > >> I would suggest getting a new consultant .. :) >> > What Dennis said. > >> Lol got me! There is nothing that I know of that you have to "license" to >> become a ISP in the US of A. . You

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Owen DeLong
Not necessarily… If you aren’t a facilities-based carrier: https://transition.fcc.gov/form477/WhoMustFileForm477.pdf You don’t need to. Owen > On May 31, 2016, at 11:53 , Dennis Burgess wrote: > > I would suggest getting a new consultant .. :) > > Possible Acronyms > > College of Arts an

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Jared Mauch
> On May 31, 2016, at 4:16 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Lorell Hathcock wrote: >> Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an ISP >> license to operate in the United States. (Like they have in other countries >> like Germany and in Afri

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Lorell Hathcock wrote: > Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an ISP > license to operate in the United States. (Like they have in other countries > like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive personal experience.) Howdy, There

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RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Naslund, Steve
What you have been hearing so far is correct. You do not need a license to be an ISP other than normal business licenses in your municipality/state. The only thing I can think of would be if you were a voice carrier or wanted to become a CLEC which would give you better/cheaper access to loca

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
I've got it! Send $25,000 and I will print you a shiny new license to hang on the wall! Curtis Starnes Senior Network Administrator Granbury ISD 600 W. Bridge St. Ste. 40 Granbury, Texas  76048 (817) 408-4104 (817) 408-4126 Fax curtis.star...@granburyisd.org www.granburyisd.org     OPEN RECORD

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Wayne Bouchard
Well, now you're talking tax ID or, rather, a general license to operate a commercial enterprise, not a specific license related to ISPs. On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 07:05:29PM +, Dustin Jurman wrote: > Local Business License. > > Dustin > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
Maybe the consultant is confusing "licensing" with IP address allocations from ARIN. Curtis Starnes Senior Network Administrator Granbury ISD 600 W. Bridge St. Ste. 40 Granbury, Texas  76048 (817) 408-4104 (817) 408-4126 Fax curtis.star...@granburyisd.org www.granburyisd.org     OPEN RECORDS N

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Wayne Bouchard
+1 Do not confuse a desire from some party you wish to do business saying, "Our own consultants have said that we shouldn't do business with anyone not compliant with these standards," as a requirement for licensure. Bureaucrats simply like certificates and that's all this really boils down to, a

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 5/31/16 2:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: I would suggest getting a new consultant .. :) What Dennis said. Lol got me! There is nothing that I know of that you have to "license" to become a ISP in the US of A. . You do have to fill out Form 477 twice a year. :) But only if you provide:

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Dustin Jurman
Local Business License. Dustin -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:53 PM To: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: RE: ISP License in the USA? I would suggest getting a new consultant .. :

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Eric Flanery (eric)
There is no such thing as an 'ISP license' in the US. I have a hard time imagining Texas of all places would have such a requirement. Depending on what exactly you are doing, there are various and highly varied requirements, such as acquiring a SPIN number for E-Rate, filing FCC 477 if you do broa

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Lorell Hathcock wrote: Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an ISP license to operate in the United States. (Like they have in other countries like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive personal experience.) I am asking him to tell me whic

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Dennis Burgess
I would suggest getting a new consultant .. :) Possible Acronyms College of Arts and Letters (Missouri State University; Springfield, MO) Cartridge Overall Length (shooting) Client Object Access Layer Circle of Acro Lovers Columbus Ohio Area Local Consolidated Operational Activities Lis

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
>>> > He is suggesting COALS . as in lumps of coals, is what you are going to get on christmas from him, if he does not get this gig ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom - Original Message - > From: "Lorell Hathcock" > To: "nanog list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
+1 on the SPIN, when we file our e-Rate form 470 and form 471's each year with USAC, we have to provide our carrier's SPIN on these forms. Curtis Starnes Senior Network Administrator Granbury ISD 600 W. Bridge St. Ste. 40 Granbury, Texas  76048 (817) 408-4104 (817) 408-4126 Fax curtis.star...@gra

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread STARNES, CURTIS
E-Rate is more of a "discounted" rate process than a license. I work for a mid-sized school district and apply for and are granted E-Rate funding every year. So from the end user stand point not as a transit ISP, E-Rate would not apply. Curtis Starnes Senior Network Administrator Granbury ISD 600

RE: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Ray Orsini
Just to clarify. You don't need a SPIN (e-rate Service Provider Identification Number) to provide service to those entities. You only need a SPIN to qualify for USF/USAC funding for those entities. If they want to pay full price (which some do) you don't need the SPIN. Applying for a SPIN is extrem

Re: ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Dan White
Not familiar with the process, but look at E-rate if you want to provide service to schools, libraries and health providers. On 05/31/16 13:14 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote: NANOG: Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an ISP license to operate in the United States. (

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Octavio Alvarez wrote: >>.-. >>| | >>| B |- D >> S -| A R| >>| C |- (toward S) >>|

ISP License in the USA?

2016-05-31 Thread Lorell Hathcock
NANOG: Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an ISP license to operate in the United States. (Like they have in other countries like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive personal experience.) I am asking him to tell me which license we should have because

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2016-May-31 09:08:42 -0700, Octavio Alvarez wrote: On 05/30/2016 10:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote: rfc1812 says 4.3.2.4 ICMP Message Source Address Except where this document specifies otherwise, the IP source address in an ICMP message originated by the router MUST be one of the

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 05/30/2016 10:03 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > rfc1812 says > >4.3.2.4 ICMP Message Source Address > >Except where this document specifies otherwise, the IP source address >in an ICMP message originated by the router MUST be one of the IP >addresses associated with the physical inter

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >.-. >| | >| B |- D > S -| A R| >| C |- (toward S) >|

Akamai Geolocation

2016-05-31 Thread Bryn Sadler
Hi all, anyone on-list from Akamai that could help out with a Geolocation issue our customers are experiencing? We tried the support channels on the website. Many thanks, Bryn Sadler Chief Technical Officer T: +44 (0)20 3102 5254 M: +44 (0)7872 684 671 C: +1 (347) 558 2133 W: essensys.tech

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread Owen DeLong
It seems to me that a plain text reading of RFC-1812 is as Randy describes undesirable. It also seems that the violation of this text is commonplace in actual implementations because of yet another time where operators have made it clear to developers that the IETF is silly. I like the Linux s

Re: CALEA

2016-05-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
"Encryption The number of state wiretaps in which encryption was encountered decreased from 41 in 2013 to 22 in 2014. In two of these wiretaps, officials were unable to decipher the plain text of the messages. Three federal wiretaps were reported as being encrypted in 2014, of which two could not

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

2016-05-31 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 10:03:33PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: >.-. >| | >| B |- D > S -| A R| >| C |- (toward S) >|

Re: CALEA

2016-05-31 Thread Martin Hannigan
Misfire. Sorry, early in the AM. The URL I intended to send is here: http://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/wiretap-report-2014 Best, -M< On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote: > CALEA isn't a type of request, it's a law that enabled par function > access for LEO's e.

Re: CALEA

2016-05-31 Thread Martin Hannigan
CALEA isn't a type of request, it's a law that enabled par function access for LEO's e.g. "the ladder" pin register, trap+trace, DTMF translation, three-way/off hook ops and the call content (not necessarily in that order). You can see the non national security activity here: On Sat, May 28, 201