Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Christopher Morrow]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Joe Hamelin  wrote:

>
> the fiber meet-me-room and five floors above the NRO tap room.  They use to
>

'nro tap room' ... what's the expansion of NRO here?

need to talk with a comcast noc engineer rather urgently

[mark seiden]

at the internet archive we have a strange problem at the moment. 

a slightly upstream device looks like it's returning icmp
administratively unreachable for our main load balancer's ip address
(which serves archive.org). 

comcast has interpreted this to remove or (maybe blackhole) connections
to archive.org somewhere pretty close to the edge.  

but it is routing and completing connections perfectly to other ip
addresses on the same /24. 

no other providers than comcast are behaving similarly.

can someone supply me with a contact phone number of someone at the real
comcast NOC who can help talk us out of this?

(obviously we want to fix the device and have opened a ticket with the
upstream provider but in the meantime we're hoping to talk with a
comcast noc engineer about other options for getting back on the air for
comcast customers).

thanks a lot.

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Sean Donelan]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Scott Christopher wrote:

But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are
not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the
country.


It's just "for show."

If they really wanted to be invisible, they could do so without using
diplomats - a group that is always assumed to be under location
surveillance.


Yep, which is why its odd.  It would be much easier to hire one of the 
construction companies which lay fiber routes to prepare a nation-wide 
survey for them.  Or hack their computer servers containing GIS maps.


Maybe diplomats get bored, and like yanking the FBI's chain for sport. 
They have diplomatic immunity, so the risk is very low.


I'll admit, I did visit the Geographic Center of the U.S. (lower 
48-states) in Lebanon, Kansas.  It was very nerdy, but something to check 
off the list.  I only have 6 U.S. states left to visit for another item

to check off the list.  Maybe Russian diplomats have a bucket list too?

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Ben McGinnes]

On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 07:15:12PM -0700, Joe Hamelin wrote:
>
> The Seattle Russian Embassy is in the Westin Building just 4 floors
> above the fiber meet-me-room and five floors above the NRO tap room.
> They use to come ask us (an ISP) for IT help back in '96 when they
> would drag an icon too far off the screen in Windows 3.11. We were
> on the same floor.

So when Flynn & Friends in the Trump Transition Team were trying to
establish that back channel link to Vladimir Putin they should've just
wandered into the nearest colo facility ... okay, then.  I guess they
did it the other way because they wanted the trench coats.


Regards,
Ben


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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Joe Hamelin]

Sean said: "Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations,
which are documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of
longitude & latitude; and and included in navigation maps"

Or you just follow the manhole covers that say Global Crossings.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
>
>> And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas
>> pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.
>>
>
> Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations, which are
> documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of longitude
> & latitude; and and included in navigation maps
>
> Finding the exact cable routes in the middle of the country requires on
> the ground surveying and locating cable markers. Piecemeal maps exist at
> the local level, and high-level maps are available from various providers.
> But as anyone familar with cable accidents or network planning knows, those
> marketing maps are aspirational.  I had real estate people try to convince
> me that "fiber was available" at specific sites because there was a
> railroad across the road, and everyone "knew" that fiber was always next to
> railroads.
>
> Yes, its fairly simple to find a cable marker, if you put people (i.e.
> diplomats) on the ground in remote areas across the country.
>
> But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are
> not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the country.
>

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Joe Hamelin]

The Seattle Russian Embassy is in the Westin Building just 4 floors above
the fiber meet-me-room and five floors above the NRO tap room.  They use to
come ask us (an ISP) for IT help back in '96 when they would drag an icon
too far off the screen in Windows 3.11. We were on the same floor.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Brandon Vincent 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Matt Palmer  wrote:
> > I think regardless of what you appear to be interested in, hanging
> around a
> > beach with a big DSLR is likely to get you on one list or another.
>
> "Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's
> where they keep the nuclear wessels."
>

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Scott Christopher]

Sean Donelan wrote: 

> But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are 
> not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the 
> country.

It's just "for show."

If they really wanted to be invisible, they could do so without using
diplomats - a group that is always assumed to be under location
surveillance. 

-- 
Regards,
  S.C.

Survey on Internet agreement ecosystem

[Pedro de Botelho Marcos]

Dear NANOG community,

We are conducting a survey about Internet agreements, with a focus on
dynamism, economics, and service level agreements aspects. Can you please
help us by answering a set of objective questions reflecting your views
(<10min)?

 Feel free to drop any comment on how to improve the survey in the future.

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PhD Student
Computer Networks Research Group
Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul - UFRGS

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Brandon Vincent]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Matt Palmer  wrote:
> I think regardless of what you appear to be interested in, hanging around a
> beach with a big DSLR is likely to get you on one list or another.

"Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's
where they keep the nuclear wessels."

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Matt Palmer]

On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 02:02:46PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the
> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't always
> the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up there.

Maybe they're not *actually* Russian diplomats, but instead undercover
backhoes using Russian diplomatic credentials.

- Matt

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Matt Palmer]

On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 12:20:54PM -0700, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> That said, a pretty quick way to get on some homeland security watch lists
> would be to hang around a cable landing station beach location with a big
> DSLR camera, and appear uninterested in the beach...

I think regardless of what you appear to be interested in, hanging around a
beach with a big DSLR is likely to get you on one list or another.

- Matt

Re: Leasing /22 blocks

[Justin Wilson]

We have done several transactions with ipv4auctions.  You do ARIN pre-approval 
first and then you are golden.

Did a purchase just yesterday for $3900 for a /24.

Justin

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net 
skype:j2swmtin 

---
http://www.mtin.net 
xISP Solutions • Consulting • Data Centers • Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com 
Internet Exchange • Peering • Distributed Fabric



> On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Aaron Gould  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing 
> $10/per ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest
> 
> 
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> 
> 

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Sean Donelan]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:

And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas
pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.


Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations, which are 
documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of 
longitude & latitude; and and included in navigation maps


Finding the exact cable routes in the middle of the country requires 
on the ground surveying and locating cable markers. Piecemeal maps exist at 
the local level, and high-level maps are available from various providers. 
But as anyone familar with cable accidents or network planning knows, 
those marketing maps are aspirational.  I had real estate people try to 
convince me that "fiber was available" at specific sites because there was 
a railroad across the road, and everyone "knew" that fiber was always 
next to railroads.


Yes, its fairly simple to find a cable marker, if you put people (i.e. 
diplomats) on the ground in remote areas across the country.


But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are 
not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the 
country.

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Bruce H McIntosh]

On 2017-06-01 16:04, Rod Beck wrote:

And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas 
pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.


Yep, with those orange-and-white plastic pipe markers sticking up that say "CAUTION! 
Buried Fiber Optic Cable!" on 'em.

--
--
Bruce H. McIntosh
Senior Network Engineer
University of Florida IT ICT Networking and Telecommunication Services
b...@ufl.edu
352-273-1066

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Rod Beck]

And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas 
pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.


From: Sean Donelan 
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:54:32 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Eric Kuhnke; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
> As someone who has sold a lot of capacity on Hibernia Atlantic, I must
> concur. There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic
> cables land on the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales.
> Hiding is not an option.

As far as I know, there are no cable landing stations in Kansas.

Has US geography changed recently?

Solarwinds Orion/NPM business hours 95th percentile query

[Jesse McGraw]

( I'm not sure if this will be generally useful, but I needed it so I 
thought I'd share in case others may too )


I have a system that uses Solarwinds NPM/Orion to collect interface 
utilization data from devices scattered around the globe and I found 
myself needing to calculate 95th percentile values from it that only 
takes into account local business hours (i.e. no weekends or nights).


After much googling and banging around on the keyboard this is the query 
that I came up with.  As it stands you have to manually adjust the query 
for the timezones of the SQL database itself and the various devices 
you're querying, it would be smarter to add a custom field for each 
device representing its UTC offset and use that value in the query but I 
haven't made that happen yet


I am certainly no SQL maestro so I've also put it into a github 
repository in case anyone has ideas on how to improve it or fix any 
silly mistakes I've made


https://github.com/jlmcgraw/sql_queries_for_solarwinds_orion/blob/master/solarwinds_orion_95th_percentile_business_hours_sql_query.sql

--Jesse


-- This is a query to calculate 95th percentile statistics for bits in, 
bits out,

-- and a new column that is the max of bits in vs. bits out for each sample
-- only for business hours (i.e. excluding weekends and hours before / 
after work

-- hours)
--
-- Edit the "WHERE" statement in the 
"InterfaceTraffic_Detail_BusinessHours" CTE

--  to choose which devices you're querying
--
-- Developed/tested with
--  Microsoft SQL server 2014
--  Orion Platform 2017.1, NPM 12.1
--  Uses the detailed last 30 days view of interface statistics
--  [swnpm].[dbo].[InterfaceTraffic_Detail]
--  you may wish to use different input data
--
-- Issues
--  You currently must adjust the timezone setting manually and be sure 
to query

--  only devices that are all in the same timezone
--  Surely performance can be improved


-- To Do
--  Document adding a custom column with a UTC offset for each device 
and modify

--  this query to use that value instead
--  Account for standard vs. daylight savings time

DECLARE @SampleOffset Float
DECLARE @TargetDeviceOffset Float
DECLARE @TargetPercentile Float
DECLARE @StartBusinessHours Float
DECLARE @EndBusinessHours Float

-- The UTC offset of the timezone the samples are stored in
-- (i.e. where the database is)
SET @SampleOffset = -4.0

-- The UTC offset of the timezone where the target devices are
SET @TargetDeviceOffset = -4.0

-- Target percentile as a decimal
SET @TargetPercentile = 0.95

-- When do business hours start ( 0700 = 7am )
SET @StartBusinessHours = 7

-- When do business hours end ( 1800 = 6pm )
SET @EndBusinessHours = 18
;


WITH
InterfaceTraffic_Detail_BusinessHours AS (
-- Create a CTE showing only business hours data
-- Also adding a MaxBps column
SELECT
 i.DateTime
 ,i.interfaceid
 ,i.[In_Maxbps]
 ,i.[out_Maxbps]
,MaxBps =
CASE
--Use whichever is greater of IN vs. OUT
WHEN Out_Maxbps > In_Maxbps THEN Out_Maxbps
ELSE In_Maxbps
END

FROM
[swnpm].[dbo].[InterfaceTraffic_Detail] as I
INNER JOIN [swnpm].[dbo].[Nodes]  as N
ON (n.NodeID = [i].NodeID )

WHERE
(n.SysName LIKE '%pattern1%'
-- or n.SysName LIKE '%pattern1%'
-- or n.SysName LIKE '%pattern2%'
-- or n.SysName LIKE '%pattern3%'
-- or n.SysName LIKE '%pattern4%'
)
AND
(
--This adjusts for both the timezone of the samples and 
the target device

-- Not Saturday or Sunday after adjusting for timezones
 (DATEPART(dw,DATEADD(hh,-@SampleOffset+@TargetDeviceOffset,DateTime)) 
<> 1 AND 
(DATEPART(dw,DATEADD(hh,-@SampleOffset+@TargetDeviceOffset,DateTime)) <> 
7) )

AND
-- Between @StartBusinessHours and @EndBusinessHours after 
adjusting for timezones

 (DATEPART(Hour,DATEADD(hh,-@SampleOffset+@TargetDeviceOffset,DateTime)) >= 
@StartBusinessHours AND 
(DATEPART(Hour,DATEADD(hh,-@SampleOffset+@TargetDeviceOffset,DateTime)) <= 
@EndBusinessHours))
)

)
,
Percentile_IN as (
-- A CTE that builds on InterfaceTraffic_Detail_BusinessHours 
for calculating

-- the chosen percentile value for each interfaceId
SELECT
  t.InterfaceID,
  -- The smallest value in the chosen percentile
  -- 
http://www.dummies.com/education/math/statistics/how-to-calculate-percentiles-in-statistics/

  Min(CASE
WHEN seqnum >= @TargetPercentile * cnt
  THEN
[In_Maxbps]
  END) AS percentile
FROM (
SELECT
  t.*,
  ROW_NUMBER() OVER (PARTITION BY t.InterfaceID ORDER BY 
[In_Maxbps]) AS 

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[clinton mielke]

Sea levels rose pretty quickly

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
>
>> As someone who has sold a lot of capacity on Hibernia Atlantic, I must
>> concur. There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic cables
>> land on the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. Hiding is
>> not an option.
>>
>
> As far as I know, there are no cable landing stations in Kansas.
>
> Has US geography changed recently?
>
>
>

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Rod Beck]

Last time I checked satellite imagery, existing fiber maps, as well as signs 
saying "Fiber Optic Cables" lead to the same outcome: Very little can be 
hidden. Nice try, Sean. You can try out next year.



From: Sean Donelan 
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:54 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Eric Kuhnke; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
> As someone who has sold a lot of capacity on Hibernia Atlantic, I must
> concur. There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic
> cables land on the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales.
> Hiding is not an option.

As far as I know, there are no cable landing stations in Kansas.

Has US geography changed recently?

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Sean Donelan]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
As someone who has sold a lot of capacity on Hibernia Atlantic, I must 
concur. There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic 
cables land on the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. 
Hiding is not an option.


As far as I know, there are no cable landing stations in Kansas.

Has US geography changed recently?

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Rod Beck]

As someone who has sold a lot of capacity on Hibernia Atlantic, I must concur. 
There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic cables land on the 
West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. Hiding is not an option.


http://www.kis-orca.eu/


Regards,


Roderick.




From: NANOG  on behalf of Eric Kuhnke 

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:20 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

It's not like the locations of any of the transatlantic or transpacific
cable landing stations are a big secret. They're published in the FCC's
digest reports for international authorization and whenever ownership of a
cable changes hands or is restructured.

Additionally it is pretty hard to hide from modern imagery intelligence
analysis any sort of building that has 1+1 or N+1 200kW diesel generators
and the cooling required for a medium sized telecom facility.

Locations of cables are published specifically for the purpose of helping
trawlers and ships avoid damaging them, for example:
http://bandoncable.org/cables.asp
[http://bandoncable.org/images/cable01.jpg]

Bandon Submarine Cable Council - Cable 
Locations
bandoncable.org
Be advised of the location if two submarine cables in the North Pacific located 
off the coast of Bandon, Oregon. The TPC-5 cable system consists of ...



That said, a pretty quick way to get on some homeland security watch lists
would be to hang around a cable landing station beach location with a big
DSLR camera, and appear uninterested in the beach...




On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Sean Donelan  wrote:

>
> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the
> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't
> always the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up
> there.
>
> On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many
> critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies
> :-)
>
>
> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espion
> age-trump-239003
>
> In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an
> escalating problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be
> tracked by the State Department, were going missing.
>
> The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would
> eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was
> found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one
> particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another
> turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both
> seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.
>
> According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys
> driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”
>
> It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the
> Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’
> telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to
> disrupt it.
>

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Eric Kuhnke]

It's not like the locations of any of the transatlantic or transpacific
cable landing stations are a big secret. They're published in the FCC's
digest reports for international authorization and whenever ownership of a
cable changes hands or is restructured.

Additionally it is pretty hard to hide from modern imagery intelligence
analysis any sort of building that has 1+1 or N+1 200kW diesel generators
and the cooling required for a medium sized telecom facility.

Locations of cables are published specifically for the purpose of helping
trawlers and ships avoid damaging them, for example:
http://bandoncable.org/cables.asp

That said, a pretty quick way to get on some homeland security watch lists
would be to hang around a cable landing station beach location with a big
DSLR camera, and appear uninterested in the beach...




On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Sean Donelan  wrote:

>
> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the
> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't
> always the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up
> there.
>
> On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many
> critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies
> :-)
>
>
> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espion
> age-trump-239003
>
> In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an
> escalating problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be
> tracked by the State Department, were going missing.
>
> The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would
> eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was
> found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one
> particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another
> turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both
> seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.
>
> According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys
> driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”
>
> It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the
> Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’
> telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to
> disrupt it.
>

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Mel Beckman]

That's how we found the Russian's fiber cables:

"According to “Blind Man’s Bluff,” Bradley, in his predawn stupor, recalled 
from his youth written signs that had been posted along the Mississippi River 
to mark undersea cables. The signs, posted along the shore, were meant to 
prevent passing from hooking the cables with their anchors. With this in mind, 
Bradley reasoned that there had to be similar signs near the shallower points 
on the Sea of Okhotsk."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/10/26/as-russia-scopes-undersea-cables-a-shadow-of-the-united-states-cold-war-past/?utm_term=.48dbf7c289af

 -mel beckman

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Brandon Vincent  wrote:
> 
> DO NOT ANCHOR OR DREDGE is a pretty good indicator.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jared Mauch  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the 
>>> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't 
>>> always the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up 
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many 
>>> critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003
>>> 
>>> In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an escalating 
>>> problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be tracked by the 
>>> State Department, were going missing.
>>> 
>>> The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would 
>>> eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was 
>>> found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one 
>>> particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another 
>>> turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both 
>>> seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.
>>> 
>>> According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys 
>>> driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”
>>> 
>>> It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the 
>>> Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’ 
>>> telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to 
>>> disrupt it.
>> 
>> Seems it would be easier to just pay for a subscription to a service like 
>> FiberLocator or similar.
>> 
>> They could just dial 811 as well and request the locates happen.
>> 
>> - Jared

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[valdis . kletnieks]

On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 11:32:28 -0700, Brandon Vincent said:
> DO NOT ANCHOR OR DREDGE is a pretty good indicator.

In Kansas? :)


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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Brandon Vincent]

DO NOT ANCHOR OR DREDGE is a pretty good indicator.

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jared Mauch  wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>>
>>
>> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the 
>> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't always 
>> the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up there.
>>
>> On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many 
>> critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies 
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003
>>
>> In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an escalating 
>> problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be tracked by the 
>> State Department, were going missing.
>>
>> The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would 
>> eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was 
>> found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one 
>> particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another 
>> turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both 
>> seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.
>>
>> According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys 
>> driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”
>>
>> It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the 
>> Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’ 
>> telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to 
>> disrupt it.
>
> Seems it would be easier to just pay for a subscription to a service like 
> FiberLocator or similar.
>
> They could just dial 811 as well and request the locates happen.
>
> - Jared

Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Jared Mauch]

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
> 
> 
> There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the 
> industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't always 
> the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up there.
> 
> On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many 
> critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took selfies 
> :-)
> 
> 
> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003
> 
> In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an escalating 
> problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be tracked by the 
> State Department, were going missing.
> 
> The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would eventually 
> turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was found on a 
> beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one particularly bizarre 
> case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, another turned up wandering 
> around in the middle of the desert. Interestingly, both seemed to be 
> lingering where underground fiber-optic cables tend to run.
> 
> According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys 
> driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”
> 
> It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the Kremlin 
> is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’ telecommunications 
> infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to disrupt it.

Seems it would be easier to just pay for a subscription to a service like 
FiberLocator or similar.

They could just dial 811 as well and request the locates happen.

- Jared

Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

[Sean Donelan]

There must be a perfectly logical explanation  Yes, people in the 
industry know where the choke points are. But the choke points aren't 
always the most obvious places. Its kinda a weird for diplomats to show up 
there.


On the other hand, I've been a fiber optic tourist.  I've visited many 
critical choke points in the USA and other countries, and even took 
selfies :-)



http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003

In the throes of the 2016 campaign, the FBI found itself with an 
escalating problem: Russian diplomats, whose travel was supposed to be 
tracked by the State Department, were going missing.


The diplomats, widely assumed to be intelligence operatives, would 
eventually turn up in odd places, often in middle-of-nowhere USA. One was 
found on a beach, nowhere near where he was supposed to be. In one 
particularly bizarre case, relayed by a U.S. intelligence official, 
another turned up wandering around in the middle of the desert. 
Interestingly, both seemed to be lingering where underground fiber-optic 
cables tend to run.


According to another U.S. intelligence official, “They find these guys 
driving around in circles in Kansas. It’s a pretty aggressive effort.”


It’s a trend that has led intelligence officials to conclude that the 
Kremlin is waging a quiet effort to map the United States’ 
telecommunications infrastructure, perhaps preparing for an opportunity to 
disrupt it.

RE: Anyone using Arista 7280R as edge router?

[Peter Kranz]

> Arista’s specs say the 7500R / 7280R can handle 1M ipv4+ipv6 routes in 
> hardware (FIB):

I'm using these as edge routers facing multiple peering networks and several 
full table feeds. No problems so far, very cost effective platform in my mind.

Here is what it looks like with about 100 peers and several full table feeds:

Forwarding Resources Usage

TableFeature Chip Used  Used  Free   Committed   Best Case  
 High 
   Entries   (%)   Entries Entries Max  
Watermark 
   Entries  
  
 --- -  - - --- --- 
- 
LEM 559529   71%226903   0  786432  
   560163 
LEM  MAC   2420%226903   0  786432  
  290 
Routing  Resource1 874   42%  1174   02048  
  880 
Routing  Resource2 543   53%   481   01024  
  548 
Routing  Resource3   16038   48% 16730   0   32768  
16060 
Routing  V4Hosts 00% 81920   0   81920  
0 
Routing  V4Routes   541905   70%226903   0  786432  
   542491 
Routing  V6Hosts 00% 81920   0   81920  
0 
Routing  V6Routes173827%226903   0  786432  
17481 

Re: Leasing /22 blocks

[Bob Evans]

You must look deeply into the company you lease IPs too.

Have a contract - there is one on RentIPv4.com you can download, copy and
modify. (I created it, I say you can do that if you need one.)

But the contract is a small partBecause companies come and go. You
must be able to verify many things about the company - how long in
business - explore previous IPs they utilized... what they plan to do with
them, will thier customers spam with them, etc. If not you run a greater
risk of getting back IPs that are on international black lists. Many of
those will require you to pay a ransom fees to be removed blocks.

Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO




> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 04:44:52PM +, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
>> Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.
>> Have never done that before.
>>
>> I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a
>> /22 in the United States might be.
>
> Let me just set up my crystal ball.  Perhaps I can divine the future of
> your address space.  Hmmm.  It's a little cloudy.  A lot of retransmits.
> What if I adjust this here -- nope, that's upping the packet loss.
> Maybe ...?  Ahh, yes.  It's starting to take shape.  I see ...
>
> I see your IP space being used for abuse.  It's appearing on every
> blacklist imaginable.  Whole segments of the Network null route it.
> Hmmm.  It's being returned to you by the spamm--clients.  About a week
> later.  You're sitting there with a couple hundred dollars.  And a
> letter from ARIN.  You look .. sad.  Yes, definitely sad.
>
> I'd recommend not doing that.
>
> --
> . ___ ___  .   .  ___
> .  \/  |\  |\ \
> .  _\_ /__ |-\ |-\ \__
>

Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

[Eric Kuhnke]

All of the licensed mobile phone network operators in Ghana are also ISPs
and can reach enterprise customers. Within Accra or a few other major
coastal cities, either by microwave rooftop/tower based links or their
terrestrial fiber. Should definitely be much faster and more economical
than satellite.

Interestingly if you look at BGP tables and AS-adjacencies for the major
Ghanian ISPs and telecoms, it is logically a suburb of London, which is
where most of the traffic in the recently built West African submarine
cables goes.


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Rishi Singh  wrote:

> Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been
> doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but nothing
> solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a bit
> every quarter on satellite up link fees.
>
> Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana?
>
> Thank you,
>

RE: XO SIP in Chicago

[Kody Vicknair]

Quoted:
>
Having issues starting at 8:31AM CST with call quality on XO SIP.

Inbound calls goes from the number is not available message, to calls 
completing but very choppy voice quality.

Outbound calls seems to work but voice quality is poor.

Opened a ticket with XO no call back or engineer picked up the ticket.

Anyone else having issues with XO SIP?


Judah Sameth | Director of Information Technology
judah.sam...@xsportfitness.com
p:  630.318.3470




Kody Vicknair
Network Engineer

Tel:985.536.1214
Fax:985.536.0300
Email:  kvickn...@reservetele.com

Reserve Telecommunications
100 RTC Dr
Reserve, LA 70084

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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nick Bakker
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:00 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: XO SIP in Chicago

Is anyone else having issues with XO SIP service in the Chicago area?  We’re 
seeing poor audio quality on outbound calls and inbound calls may or may not 
work.


Thanks!

XO SIP in Chicago

[Nick Bakker]

Is anyone else having issues with XO SIP service in the Chicago area?  We’re 
seeing poor audio quality on outbound calls and inbound calls may or may not 
work.
 
 
Thanks!

Re: Lille, France

[Beatrice Ghorra]

Hi all,

I beg to differ Scott, the SFR Group owned by Altice lays its own Fiber
Optic networks and are present in all major cities in France. Each company
that has been part of the group has a solid knowledge of fiber deployments
for B2C and B2B clients.
The mergers and acquisitions has helped the group consolidate many networks
and add more capillarity nationwide.

Regards,

-- 
Beatrice Ghorra

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Scott Christopher  wrote:

> Rod Beck wrote:
>
> > Altice is in the States and going public soon. They have been producing
> > superior financial results. Appears to know how to run these cable
> > networks better than the standard American management.
>
> They don't actually lay any cable though, nor do they build their own
> network. They have been acquiring other telecoms at a brisk pace for 15
> years as the industry consolidates. (They are debt heavy, especially for
> a European company, and this upcoming IPO is a 20% sale to grab more
> capital, riding the wave of recent market bullishness for U.S.
> telecoms.)
>
> Not sure if any of us network engineers will like them in 2 - 4 years -
> but you're a business consultant seeing this from a different
> perspective. ;)
>
> --
> Regards,
>   S.C.
>

ᐧ

Re: Lille, France

[Alexis Letessier]

Hello Rod,

Altice France can sell you optical links or optical transport or IPv4/v6 
transit from any to any point in France. Lille to Paris should be OK.

For last mile networks we should be able to help you since we have the biggest 
optical network in France (we have approximately 2 million fiber optic 
customers).

If you can provide with the exact GPS points you wish to connect we could try 
to estimate the price with you. Do you want black fiber or MPLS transport ?

Last time i did that for one of our backbones, i ended up using optical 
transmission which is based on 100g links. Quick and easy.

Regards,

Alexis Letessier



> On 24 May 2017, at 21:03, Rod Beck  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am looking for insight into which carriers have metropolitan or last mile 
> networks in this city. Preferably connected to Paris.
> 
> 
> Roderick Beck
> 
> Director of Global Sales
> 
> United Cable Company
> 
> www.unitedcablecompany.com
> 
> 85 Király utca, 1077 Budapest
> 
> rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
> 
> 36-30-859-5144
> 
> 
> [1467221477350_image005.png]

Re: Leasing /22 blocks

[Izaac]

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 04:44:52PM +, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
> Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.
> Have never done that before. 
> 
> I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a
> /22 in the United States might be. 

Let me just set up my crystal ball.  Perhaps I can divine the future of
your address space.  Hmmm.  It's a little cloudy.  A lot of retransmits.
What if I adjust this here -- nope, that's upping the packet loss.
Maybe ...?  Ahh, yes.  It's starting to take shape.  I see ...

I see your IP space being used for abuse.  It's appearing on every
blacklist imaginable.  Whole segments of the Network null route it.
Hmmm.  It's being returned to you by the spamm--clients.  About a week
later.  You're sitting there with a couple hundred dollars.  And a
letter from ARIN.  You look .. sad.  Yes, definitely sad.

I'd recommend not doing that.

-- 
. ___ ___  .   .  ___
.  \/  |\  |\ \
.  _\_ /__ |-\ |-\ \__

RE: Leasing /22 blocks

[Luke Guillory]

While that is true, it does still require ARIN approval in the US and will need 
to be justified.





Luke Guillory
Network Operations Manager

Tel:985.536.1212
Fax:985.536.0300
Email:  lguill...@reservetele.com

Reserve Telecommunications
100 RTC Dr
Reserve, LA 70084

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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: 'Josh Luthman'
Cc: 'NANOG list'
Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks

Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing $10/per 
ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest



-Aaron

RE: Leasing /22 blocks

[Aaron Gould]

Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing $10/per 
ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest

 

-Aaron

 

Re: Leasing /22 blocks

[Ken Chase]

Almost attractive pricing, but then we assume those IPs are trashed for life,
and attract blowback scan/hack traffic?

I would think that permanent sale is the only option, once one has removed all 
traces
of one's name from all records (irr and robtex and mxtoolbox and and and) 
before one does.

/kc


On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 01:57:07PM +, Luke Guillory said:
  >LogicWeb leases IPs, their pricing is below.
  >
  >/21 -1600$
  >/22 - 800$
  >/23 - 400$
  >/24 - 200$
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >Luke Guillory
  >Network Operations Manager
  >
  >Tel:985.536.1212
  >Fax:985.536.0300
  >Email:  lguill...@reservetele.com
  >
  >Reserve Telecommunications
  >100 RTC Dr
  >Reserve, LA 70084
  >
  
>_
  >
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  >The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the 
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could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or 
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errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of 
e-mail transmission. .
  >
  >-Original Message-
  >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould
  >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 8:53 AM
  >To: 'Security Admin (NetSec)'; nanog@nanog.org
  >Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks
  >
  >Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to 
which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address 
space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. 
 I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so.
  >
  >**
  >Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) :
  >
  >/19 - 2000$
  >/20 - 1200$
  >/21 - 600$
  >/22 - 400$
  >/23 - 200$
  >/24 - 100$
  >**
  >
  >- Aaron
  >
  >-Original Message-
  >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin
  >(NetSec)
  >Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM
  >To: 'nanog@nanog.org' 
  >Subject: Leasing /22 blocks
  >
  >Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.  Have 
never done that before.
  >
  >I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in 
the United States might be.
  >
  >Thanks in advance!
  >
  >Ed(ward) Ray
  >

Ken Chase - m...@sizone.org Guelph Canada

RE: Leasing /22 blocks

[Josh Luthman]

For purchase price I've seen a lot of recommendation for

https://www.ipv4auctions.com/

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 1, 2017 9:53 AM, "Aaron Gould"  wrote:

> Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to
> which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my
> address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are
> U.S.-based company.  I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure
> I'm at liberty to do so.
>
> **
> Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) :
>
> /19 - 2000$
> /20 - 1200$
> /21 - 600$
> /22 - 400$
> /23 - 200$
> /24 - 100$
> **
>
> - Aaron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin
> (NetSec)
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: 'nanog@nanog.org' 
> Subject: Leasing /22 blocks
>
> Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.  Have
> never done that before.
>
> I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in
> the United States might be.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Ed(ward) Ray
>
>

RE: Leasing /22 blocks

[Luke Guillory]

LogicWeb leases IPs, their pricing is below.

/21 -1600$
/22 - 800$
/23 - 400$
/24 - 200$




Luke Guillory
Network Operations Manager

Tel:985.536.1212
Fax:985.536.0300
Email:  lguill...@reservetele.com

Reserve Telecommunications
100 RTC Dr
Reserve, LA 70084

_

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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 8:53 AM
To: 'Security Admin (NetSec)'; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks

Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to 
which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address 
space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. 
 I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so.

**
Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) :

/19 - 2000$
/20 - 1200$
/21 - 600$
/22 - 400$
/23 - 200$
/24 - 100$
**

- Aaron

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin
(NetSec)
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM
To: 'nanog@nanog.org' 
Subject: Leasing /22 blocks

Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.  Have 
never done that before.

I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the 
United States might be.

Thanks in advance!

Ed(ward) Ray

RE: RFC2544 Testing Equipment

[Aaron Gould]

We used VeEX for a while and had our CO Techs run around with hand-held VeEx 
testers and run tests from them to a VeEx loopback device I config'd mpls 
pw's between them.  We don't really do this anymore... we now role out Accedian 
MetroNid's and MetroNode's which have a lot of this RFC2544 and Y.1731 
(accedian paa) built-in... 

-Aaron

RE: Leasing /22 blocks

[Aaron Gould]

Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to
which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my
address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are
U.S.-based company.  I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure
I'm at liberty to do so.

**
Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) : 

/19 - 2000$
/20 - 1200$
/21 - 600$
/22 - 400$
/23 - 200$
/24 - 100$
**

- Aaron

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin
(NetSec)
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM
To: 'nanog@nanog.org' 
Subject: Leasing /22 blocks

Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.  Have
never done that before. 

I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in
the United States might be. 

Thanks in advance!

Ed(ward) Ray

Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

[Rod Beck]

I would recommend PCCW because they own capacity on many these systems and have 
experience in delivering service. I have contacts I can recommend.


- R.



From: NANOG  on behalf of Mike Hammett 

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Rishi Singh
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

These cable systems land in Ghana. Look to see who rides those cable systems to 
see who is at least capable of serving your client. Then you have to figure out 
how to get from your client to the coast.

SAT-3
WACS
GLO1
ACE
MainOne




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

- Original Message -

From: "Rishi Singh" 
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:40:29 AM
Subject: Internet connectivity in Ghana

Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been
doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but nothing
solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a bit
every quarter on satellite up link fees.

Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana?

Thank you,

Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

[Mike Hammett]

These cable systems land in Ghana. Look to see who rides those cable systems to 
see who is at least capable of serving your client. Then you have to figure out 
how to get from your client to the coast. 

SAT-3 
WACS 
GLO1 
ACE 
MainOne 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Rishi Singh"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:40:29 AM 
Subject: Internet connectivity in Ghana 

Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been 
doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but nothing 
solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a bit 
every quarter on satellite up link fees. 

Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana? 

Thank you, 

ospf suppress-fa

[Vikash Sorout via NANOG]

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } 
What is the purpose of suppressing FA when Type 7 is translated to Type 5 and 
injected to backbone area by ABR.
I don't see any reason other than hiding the NSSA ASBR details .Guys please 
suggest .
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

Internet connectivity in Ghana

[Rishi Singh]

Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been
doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but nothing
solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a bit
every quarter on satellite up link fees.

Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana?

Thank you,

youtube redirector mapping

[Bajpai, Vaibhav]

Hello,

Does anybody know what is reported in the ‘debug_info’ 
portion of the YT redirector mapping webpage:

http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

Is this documented somewhere? Thanks.

-- Vaibhav

--
Vaibhav Bajpai
www.vaibhavbajpai.com

Postdoctoral Researcher
TU Munich, Germany
--

RE: [SPF] RFC2544 Testing Equipment

[pawel.slesicki]

I could recommend Accedian Metro NID for that purpose. Copper + SFP. L2 and L3 
testing.
Pawel

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-
> bounces+pawel.slesicki=thomsonreuters@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nick
> Olsen
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:23
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: [SPF] RFC2544 Testing Equipment
> 
>  Greetings all,
> 
>  Looking for a good test set. Primary use will be testing L2 circuits
> (It'll technically be VPLS, But the test set will just see L2). Being
> able to test routed L3 would also be useful. Most of the sets I've seen
> are two sided, A "reflector" at the remote side, And the test set in
> hand run by the technician.
> 
>  Looking to test up to 1Gb/s at various packet sizes, Measure Packet
> loss, Jitter..etc. Primarily Copper, But if it had some form of optical
> port, I wouldn't complain. Outputting a report that we can provide to
> the customer would be useful, But isn't mandatory. Doesn't need anything
> fancy, Like MPLS awareness, VLAN ID's..etc.
> 
> 
>Nick Olsen
>  Sr. Network Engineer
>  Florida High Speed Internet
>  (321) 205-1100 x106
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: RFC2544 Testing Equipment

[James Harrison]

On 30/05/17 16:22, Nick Olsen wrote:
>  Looking to test up to 1Gb/s at various packet sizes, Measure Packet loss, 
> Jitter..etc. Primarily Copper, But if it had some form of optical port, I 
> wouldn't complain. Outputting a report that we can provide to the customer 
> would be useful, But isn't mandatory. Doesn't need anything fancy, Like 
> MPLS awareness, VLAN ID's..etc. 
Viavi, VeEX and EXFO all do products in this space; Viavi/JDSU and VeEX
do quite low cost handhelds with a limited feature set (with reporting
to USB sticks et al), EXFO's handheld is a bit chunkier but a bit more
capable.

I quite liked the VeEX MX100e+ and Viavi Smartclass Ethernet units,
they'll both do RFC2544. Having said that, you probably want to be
testing Y.1564 (which those boxes will both do) if you're doing turn-up
testing. Viavi and EXFO all have their own "flavours" which make things
cleverer/easier if you have a basic environment, but I've found myself
using the standards-based versions most of the time really. Lots of
options for reflectors - all the vendors have them in various guises, if
you have a VPLS setup then probably you'd go from a 1U box next to your
VPLS box through the VPLS pipe through to the endpoint.

We ended up buying a pair of EXFO FTB-1s but we're doing RFC2544 etc at
10G, so a slightly different kettle of fish.

James

Re: BCP38/84 and DDoS ACLs

[Matthew Luckie]

> This doesn't seem quite like it is BCP38 and more like this is
> BCP84, but it only talks about use of ACLs in section 2.1 without
> providing any examples. Given that it is also 13 years old I thought
> there might be fresher information out there.

section 2.1 is about permitting packets from specific address ranges.
If you want to assess the dynamism or size of ACL required for a given
AS, place the AS into this URL:

https://spoofer.caida.org/prefixes.php?asn=1909

Matthew

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Leasing /22 blocks

[Security Admin (NetSec)]

Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me.  Have 
never done that before. 

I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the 
United States might be. 

Thanks in advance!

Ed(ward) Ray

Re: Lille, France

[Scott Christopher]

Rod Beck wrote: 

> Altice is in the States and going public soon. They have been producing
> superior financial results. Appears to know how to run these cable
> networks better than the standard American management.

They don't actually lay any cable though, nor do they build their own
network. They have been acquiring other telecoms at a brisk pace for 15
years as the industry consolidates. (They are debt heavy, especially for
a European company, and this upcoming IPO is a 20% sale to grab more
capital, riding the wave of recent market bullishness for U.S.
telecoms.)

Not sure if any of us network engineers will like them in 2 - 4 years -
but you're a business consultant seeing this from a different
perspective. ;)

-- 
Regards,
  S.C.

RR > L3 > RCN

[Seth Bekritsky]

Is there someone at Level 3 that can assist us?

I am not a Level 3 customer, but our ISP (Spectrum/RoadRunner) hands off to 
Level 3.  When traversing from our CA office (RoadRunner) to our NY office 
(RCN), we see packet loss between these two Level 3 Devices.  The packet loss 
is causing issues for us.

Hop 6  4.68.111.101 0 msec 10 msec 10 msec
Hop 7  4.69.138.227 110 msec 70 msec 70 msec

Our ISP wont help.  Level 3 Support wont help.  Anyone at Level 3 on here I can 
speak with about getting this fixed?

Thanks,
Seth




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Re: Lille, France

[Kevin L. Karch]

Rod,

We have carriers in France. Can you provide end point addresses and phone 
numbers along with desired services?

Thank you,

On May 24, 2017 2:03:19 PM CDT, Rod Beck  
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>I am looking for insight into which carriers have metropolitan or last
>mile networks in this city. Preferably connected to Paris.
>
>
>Roderick Beck
>
>Director of Global Sales
>
>United Cable Company
>
>www.unitedcablecompany.com
>
>85 Király utca, 1077 Budapest
>
>rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
>
>36-30-859-5144
>
>
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