Re: Threads that never end (was: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

[Andrew Kirch]

Lets say the worst case scenario is that we exhaust IPv6 at a rate
MASSIVELY higher than planned.  Can't we all just do this again in like 80
years?  I don't get why anyone cares so much that this thread won't die.

Speaking of dying, I'll be dead by then anyway.

Andrew

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Randy Bush  wrote:

> > If anyone wants to TL;DR
>
> moe: 2^128 is effectively infinita
> larry: we thought 2^32 was effectively infinite
> curly: we'll never need more than 640k
> thomas watson: i think there is a world market for maybe five computers
>

Re: Threads that never end (was: Waste will kill ipv6 too)

[valdis . kletnieks]

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 13:36:32 +0900, Randy Bush said:

> thomas watson: i think there is a world market for maybe five computers

"The Yale Book of Quotations quotes an I.B.M. source that this '... is a
misunderstanding of remarks made at I.B.M.'s annual stockholders meeting on
April 28, 1953. In referring specifically and only to the I.B.M. 701 Electronic
Data Processing Machine ... Thomas Watson, Jr., told stockholders that
'I.B.M. had developed a paper plan for such a machine and took this paper
plan across the country to some 20 concerns that we thought could use such a
machine. As a result of our trip, on which we expected to get orders for
five machines, we came home with orders for 18.'"

http://freakonomics.com/2008/04/17/our-daily-bleg-did-ibm-really-see-a-world-market-for-about-five-computers/

XO Ping Pong

[Mike Hammett]

6 216.55.14.14 0% 1 23.4ms 23.4 23.4 23.4 0 
7 216.55.14.13 0% 1 23.5ms 23.5 23.5 23.5 0 
8 216.55.14.14 0% 1 23.8ms 23.8 23.8 23.8 0 
9 216.55.14.13 0% 1 23.9ms 23.9 23.9 23.9 0 



Can someone at XO contact me offlist for more specific path information? 

I'm not an XO customer, else I would use their looking glass (which is locked 
to customers only) or support to look into this further. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

Re: Carrier IRR Update Frequency

[Kurt Kraut]

Hello,

Seabone/LANautilus/TI Sparkle (AS6762), an italian Tier-1 with strong
footprint in Latin America updates it once a day at 06:00 AM at Milan time.
If I recall correctly, only during business days. Works like a charm.


Best regards,


Kurt Kraut

2018-01-01 14:17 GMT-02:00 Mike Hammett :

> Any idea how often Cogent, XO, and Level 3 update their prefix filters
> from the IRRDBs?
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>

Re: Carrier IRR Update Frequency

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦  1 janvier 2018 10:17 -0600, Mike Hammett  :

> Any idea how often Cogent, XO, and Level 3 update their prefix filters
> from the IRRDBs? 

I got a recent answer from Cogent support stating they don't use IRR (at
least for their customers).
-- 
Consider well the proportions of things.  It is better to be a young June-bug
than an old bird of paradise.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

Re: Carrier IRR Update Frequency

[Mike Hammett]

Maybe not. My client's upstream just said they released the prefix to their 
upstreams. They had previously referenced IRRs. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Jason Lixfeld"  
To: "Mike Hammett"  
Cc: "NANOG list"  
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 10:58:00 AM 
Subject: Re: Carrier IRR Update Frequency 

Cogent does IRR filtering? 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jan 1, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote: 
> 
> Any idea how often Cogent, XO, and Level 3 update their prefix filters from 
> the IRRDBs? 
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> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 

Carrier IRR Update Frequency

[Mike Hammett]

Any idea how often Cogent, XO, and Level 3 update their prefix filters from the 
IRRDBs? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com