And just imagine what email threading might be like today ...
... if early email clients had defaulted to displaying the *bottom* of the
thread (as if you'd scrolled there).
Thoughtful UX design matters.
--
Royce Williams
Tech Solvency
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:39 PM wrote:
> A: Because it
On 1/14/19 11:40 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> And if people trimmed the
> quoted material so only the parts being replied to are left, there's not much
> digging involved.
That would really be nice, but people are inherintly lazy and will
not invest the few seconds to make reading
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
And now you're sitting here wondering what possible relevance that might have
to some line or other - the only
I'd like to go on record as saying that I PREFER top-posting.
Why dig through what you've already read to see the new comments?
Actually in an ideal world previous included bits would be links which
could optionally be expanded via one shared remote copy but lo I
wander.
You should try some
Sizable towers need to be registered with the FAA. You can go to:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrAdvancedSearch.jsp
Type in Half Moon Bay and CA for the state for a listing. Or better yet
the lat lon and radius.
Tim
On 1/13/19 3:29 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> Does
On 1/14/19 7:14 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> Please experience the wonders of the top-quote. See your local psychedelic
> distributor if you are somehow not "experiencing" anything ...
I experience a savings in time with non-edited top quoting. If I don't
see meaningful new content within the
Whenever someone has a "experience" while reading an e-mail message or viewing
a web page, one has to wonder what sort of drugs they are on ... It is the LSD
that provides the "experience", not whether you are viewing an e-mail message
or a web-page-over-SMTP ...
Please experience the
https://www.cellmapper.net/map has crowd-sourced tower maps.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Yosem Companys"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:29:27 PM
Subject:
> On Jan 13, 2019, at 12:11 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:55:54 +0100, Christoffer Hansen said:
>
>> (*it is frustrating when content parity between HTML and PLAINTEXT
>> sections is e-mails is inconsistent. :/ )
>
> Back when we were designing MIME, somebody
On 1/14/19 1:49 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
And you won't really have a choice because unless you're willing to go
full Ted Kaczynski one in a hundred of those emails will be very, very
important to you ...
Yeah. E-mail remains the only scheme where the two parties don't have
to be
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:52 PM John Levine wrote:
> In article fa0eo8znihuta1m9ac...@mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >
> >Isn't the underlying assumption with non-plaintext that: "I know what will
> >work better for you than you do" ...
>
> No, it's that every MUA in the world has handled html
In article
you write:
>
>Isn't the underlying assumption with non-plaintext that: "I know what will
>work better for you than you do" ...
No, it's that every MUA in the world has handled html mail for a decade
and it's a waste of time to piss into the wind.
I send most of my mail as
And you won't really have a choice because unless you're willing to go
full Ted Kaczynski one in a hundred of those emails will be very, very
important to you ...
Yeah. E-mail remains the only scheme where the two parties
don't have to be introduced first, don't have to be online at the same
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:14 PM Richard wrote:
>
> If anyone can confirm my suspicion of what CAT-TP is I would be
grateful. It is the first time I have seen it on a customer's network. I
think it is for manipulating SIM cards, but I have been mistaken before.
Off list replies are fine.
>
>
If anyone can confirm my suspicion of what CAT-TP is I would be
grateful. It is the first time I have seen it on a customer's network. I
think it is for manipulating SIM cards, but I have been mistaken before.
Off list replies are fine.
Thanks, Richard Golodner
/me gestures at this thread
If you needed more reason that NANOG might not be the place to discuss email
issues at any higher level than port numbers, this is it.
(I especially liked the "I use plain text everywhere!" message sent as HTML).
mailop lives at the perpetually-TLS-challenged
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:12:34PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> Isn't the underlying assumption with non-plaintext that: "I know what will
> work better for you than you do"
I suspect that the increasing use of very long lines in the expectation
that the recipient's mail client will wrap
> Isn't the underlying assumption with non-plaintext that: "I know what
> will work better for you than you do"
as i said in the '90s, mime, a syntax for encoding incompatibility.
> (comic-sans, colors, contrasting...)
hey! if it will do magenta comic sans, i may have to recant! :)
randy
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:58 AM Randy Bush wrote:
> >> People use plain-text e-mail on purpose?
> > Yes.
>
> only if you want other people to be able to read it
>
Isn't the underlying assumption with non-plaintext that: "I know what will
work better for you than you do"
(comic-sans, colors,
Your sarcasm detector might need a bit of a tweak. :)
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 9:18 PM Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
wrote:
> While we're at it, let's deprecate IPv4 now that IPv6 is fully deployed
>
>
> Come on Mr. Herrin.
>
> Blocking a port is much easier than deprecating a heavily used
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan wrote:
Because I saw support from people like Alessandro Vesely for my proposal.
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/pSb216OGLuTe31yUzAXtqD2haAo
Then it hit me. Maybe more people like him interested in SMTPS too. So I have
done
For the record, I dropped both proposals. I'm working on my personal
projects now. Let's not annoy others by discussing about this anymore.
I wanted to bring Implicit TLS to SMTP. So I had a good intention when I
opened this thread. But things went little crazy due to my another thread.
Many of
Because I saw support from people like Alessandro Vesely for my proposal.
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/pSb216OGLuTe31yUzAXtqD2haAo
Then it hit me. Maybe more people like him interested in SMTPS too. So I
have done some research and posted this comment.
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 21:19, Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
wrote:
> Let me copy paste some part I posted in ietf-smtp forum.
>
Please, stop.
-n
Hey All,
Does anyone know whether there's a map that shows the cable/wireless-tower
map for the San Francisco Bay Coastside (i.e., from Montara to Half Moon
Bay)?
A few days ago, a truck hit a PG post on Highway 92, which traverses from
San Mateo to Half Moon Bay. The accident caused the post to
On Jan 13, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Christoffer Hansen
wrote:
> Could you please fix the below type notification e-mails to ALSO be
> available if one ONLY USES PLAIN-TEXT email clients?
Thanks for the feedback. I will make sure this gets forwarded to the correct
group within Netflix.
--Stacy
(aka
Hey folks,
Just wondered what others are using for traffic analysis, particularly for
identifying the amount of streaming (audio/video) traffic on your
networks. I prefer open source, whether free or commercial, but am open to
any good suggestions.
Looked at ntopng and like it ok, but think it
Matt,
Visit https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/, probably clicking the “new
sender application” option would trigger a ticket to yahoo. Someone there
should be able to help.
U
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 4:19 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> Our customers who use
On 1/11/19 10:38 AM, Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan wrote:
Hello NANOG, Belated new year wishes.
I would like to gather some feedback from you all.
I'm trying to propose two things to the Internet Standard and it's
related to SMTP.
Your post to this list was (according to the headers):
11
What's the IP of your sending mail server?
I can poke some people for you.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> On Jan 12, 2019, at 19:31, Udeme Ukutt wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> Visit https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/, probably
On 1/13/19 8:01 PM, Brian Kantor wrote:
> Clearly, editing inclusions is a lost art.
No, it isn't a lost art. As you can see, there are some of us who know
perfectly well how to edit, and have e-mail tools that make this easy.
(Using Thunderbird here.) Smartphone mail programs make excerpting a
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 08:59:10PM +,
John Curran wrote
a message of 125 lines which said:
> Our monitoring systems reported being green until the signatures
> expired as they presently check that the SOA's match on the internal
> and external nameservers.
For checking of DNSSEC
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