Re: Verizon having a bad routing day today?

2019-02-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:09 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > I wonder if there's a lurking verizon/701 engineer on-list who may have a > few moments to reach me out of band? :) I've got what looks like busted > routing (or > howdy! actually 3 different vz folk found me, explained what I'm seeing

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/19 16:53, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > FYI: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > We continue to accept invalid route announcements from our customers, > at least for now. We are communicating with our

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
Job Snijders writes: > Dear Jay, AT, > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 09:53:45AM -0500, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > Thanks for filtering us! :-) Any time! :-) > If you can share

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:53:45 -0500, Jay Borkenhagen said: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > Congrats! Thanks! > Are you able to comment on what amount of routes are

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
Compton, Rich A writes: > That's great! Do you guys have plans to publish ROAs for your own > netblocks? If so, can you please share info on your process (tools, > pitfalls, etc.)? Thanks! > Hi Rich, We do have ROAs published for a not insignificant fraction of our address space. For

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 09:53:45 -0500, Jay Borkenhagen said: > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. Congrats! Are you able to comment on what amount of routes are getting dropped?

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Melchior Aelmans
This is the best news today! Great job!! Cheers, Melchior On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:56 PM Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > > FYI: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > We continue to accept invalid route announcements from

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Compton, Rich A
That's great! Do you guys have plans to publish ROAs for your own netblocks? If so, can you please share info on your process (tools, pitfalls, etc.)? Thanks! On 2/11/19, 7:55 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Jay Borkenhagen" wrote: FYI: The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Jay & everyone AT: I just want to say thank you. Kudos to your team for implementing and management for having the intestinal fortitude to do so. -- TTFN, patrick > On Feb 11, 2019, at 09:53, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > > > FYI: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Jay, AT, On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 09:53:45AM -0500, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. Thanks for filtering us! :-) AT doing origin validation combined with the peerlock-style AS_PATH filters

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread i3D . net - Martijn Schmidt
A round of applause to AT for leading the way! Best regards, Martijn On 2/11/19 3:53 PM, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > FYI: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > We continue to accept invalid route announcements from our

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Ca By
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 6:55 AM Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > > FYI: > > The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route > announcements that we receive from our peers. > > We continue to accept invalid route announcements from our customers, > at least for now. We are communicating

AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-11 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
FYI: The AT/as7018 network is now dropping all RPKI-invalid route announcements that we receive from our peers. We continue to accept invalid route announcements from our customers, at least for now. We are communicating with our customers whose invalid announcements we are propagating,

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/19 16:21, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:   > > Speaking of an Asia-Pac example, Thailand, the government owned telco. > >

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote: We have the same problem here in Africa too (and I saw it in Asia-Pac while I was there as well)... non-telco-centric companies that deployed Speaking of an Asia-Pac example, Thailand, the government owned telco.

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/19 15:55, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >   > > If they had just stayed at the L1 level and provided dark fiber for > the amount of money mentioned before (for instance 10-15 EUR a month) > then a lot of the problems wouldn't be there. They could have used the > same organisation as

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote: someone else" they will say "huh? what do you mean". There is an unfortunate common conflation between the fiber optic cable and the services offered on it. I get what you're saying, but sadly, someone has to take the risk to build out a network. Unless

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/19 12:49, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:   > > In Sweden it's very common that people who live in detached house > areas have to pay 1500-3000EUR to get attached to the fiber network as > it's being built out. There are even bank loans you can get to pay for > this, and pay it off over

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote: In any case, we are now building out our own fiber to cover the gaps left by TDC. Here the end user has to pay DKK 12,000 (USD 1,824 / EUR 1,608) one time fee and with that he gets everything including 5 years of free internet. This works out at DKK 200 /

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Feb/19 11:31, Thomas Bellman wrote: > I assume this is targeted towards single-family detached houses, where > the family owns the house themselves. Then they likely will view that > as an investment in the house. If you want to sell your house a couple > of years later, and it doesn't

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-11 Thread Thomas Bellman
On 2019-02-11 04:57 CET, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 10/Feb/19 17:46, Baldur Norddahl wrote: [...] >> In any case, we are now building out our own fiber to cover the gaps >> left by TDC. Here the end user has to pay DKK 12,000 (USD 1,824 / EUR >> 1,608) one time fee and with that he gets everything