Re: PSA: change your fedex.com account logins

[Ben Cannon]

You’d be surprised how often nation-states use essentially phishing scams.

-Ben Cannon
CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
b...@6by7.net 




> On May 31, 2019, at 5:04 AM, Jason Kuehl  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible, yes. I've seen it several times now at my place of work. 
> Targeted attacks are a thing.
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 2:53 AM Mike Hale  > wrote:
> Oh for fucks sake.
> 
> Really?
> 
> You two are questioning someone who subscribes to Nanog over Fedex?
> You really think it's more likely that someone is targeting Dan Hollis
> (whoever he is) instead of Fedex leaving something else exposed?
> 
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:39 PM Scott Christopher  > wrote:
> >
> > Dan Hollis wrote:
> >
> > Phishing scheme didn't happen.
> >
> > fedex has had a number of major compromises so it's not a stretch that
> > their user database was stolen and sold to spammers.
> >
> >
> > The other possibility is that your one-off email scheme is predictable, and 
> > someone knows you use FedEx, and that someone is targeting specifically 
> > you, and this obvious phishing email is a red herring for the exploit you 
> > didn't see.
> >
> > Be concerned.
> >
> > -- S.C.
> 
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> Sincerely,
>  
> Jason W Kuehl
> Cell 920-419-8983
> jason.w.ku...@gmail.com 

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

[Mike Hammett]

There's little doubt that this thread has caused an order of magnitude more 
messages in people's inboxes than the SPAM they're talking about. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: b...@theworld.com 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 3:18:42 PM 
Subject: Re: Spamming of NANOG list members 


WARNING: I AM ABOUT TO PONTIFICATE! 

Many of the lists etc I'm on get spamt and that's followed by a stream 
of "we're getting spamt!" (either directly or scraped) agonizing, over 
and over. 

I've been involved in the spam problems since before some of you were 
bornt (ok I'll stop with the stupid past participles), late 90s, and 
the net since the 1970s. 

Instead of this non-stop quarter century of agonizing maybe it's high 
time to admit failure, that we designed a system which is subject to 
spam and that was a mistake, a big mistake. 

I know, where's the FUSSP, the proposal, so you can shoot it down? 

I won't do that, not here. 

But I do think we need, and have needed for a couple of decades, some 
sort of radical rethink. 

Times have changed, ideas which were not practical 20 years ago are 
perhaps possible today due to, if nothing else, cheaper, faster 
hardware and networks etc. 

I guess I'm an idealist but I also get a little sick of the endless 
cycle of complaining, agonizing, and assertions that everything has 
been tried and nothing can help which mostly amount to we like/hate 
email just as it is. 

-- 
-Barry Shein 

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