Re: 44/8

> On Jul 18, 2019, at 21:31 , Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:28 AM Bryan Fields wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> >> On 7/18/19 11:56 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >>> Sure,but... that space has been an internet telescope sup

Re: Multi-day GNSS Galileo outage -- Civilization survives

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Sean Donelan wrote: So much for the disaster scenarioes about a global clamity, planes falling out the sky, the end of civil society because a global navigation satellite system fails. The European Galileo GNSS was down for days, and life went on. It wasn't even in full

Multi-day GNSS Galileo outage -- Civilization survives

So much for the disaster scenarioes about a global clamity, planes falling out the sky, the end of civil society because a global navigation satellite system fails. The European Galileo GNSS was down for days, and life went on. I guess disasters exercise planners now need a new technical fail

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:48 PM Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > In order to sell something, you must own it...if you pop up, > claim responsibility for it, sit on it a while, and then sell it.. > did you truly own it? > Yes, actually. The legal term is "adverse possession" or more colloquially "

Re: 44/8

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:28 AM Bryan Fields wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > > On 7/18/19 11:56 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Sure,but... that space has been an internet telescope supporting > > numerous research folk for a decade + (probably closer to 2 decad

Re: 44/8

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 7/18/19 11:56 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Sure,but... that space has been an internet telescope supporting > numerous research folk for a decade + (probably closer to 2 decades). > the amazon prefix is longer by a bit so won't really use the

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:50 PM Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:47:21PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Also, who's this 'we'.. I don't live in california... I presume UC is > > getting funding from california, not virginia. (mostly) > > It seems though that 44/8 was bei

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:47:21PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Also, who's this 'we'.. I don't live in california... I presume UC is > getting funding from california, not virginia. (mostly) > It seems though that 44/8 was being used in some research project at > UC so... maybe this is just

Re: 44/8

I presume they'd be more than happy to if some HAM's were to file a lawsuit against ARIN (not entirely an un-serious suggestion), but, short that, what do they care if they cooperated in stealing some otherwise-unused IPs and giving them to Amazon? Matt > On Jul 18, 2019, at 23:44, William Wai

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:40 PM Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:21:58PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > who knows? probably? not really my personal concern I guess. > > If they're using taxpayer supported networks to provide transit > to a private, for profit ent

Re: 44/8

On 07/18, Christopher Morrow wrote: > My guess is that arin needed more than just: "can control routing for > a few bits of time". > I don't really know, but I hope they had more requirements than that :) It certainly doesn't look like it... My understanding is that 44/8 was, very much like diff

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:21:58PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > who knows? probably? not really my personal concern I guess. If they're using taxpayer supported networks to provide transit to a private, for profit entity, we should all care. > I'm not sure how you're quite going in

Re: 44/8

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 3:16 AM Adam Korab wrote: > > On 07/18/2019 at 23:08, Job Snijders wrote: > > A potential upside is that hamnet operators maybe have access to some RPKI > > services now! > > OK, I'll bitehow do you mean? Ah, let me clarify, I didn't mean this as a tongue-in-cheek rema

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:13 PM Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:02:40PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > So.. this is/was a legacy allocation, right? with some 'not great' > > contact/etc info... > > It's been announced by UCSD as a /8, consistently available, >

Re: 44/8

On 7/18/19 10:57 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > > What's interesting about this is it was not an ARIN allocation, > and the ARDC folks are not the original registrant. This IANA /8 was > initially delegated to a community, not an organization. > > So, to the individuals listed in the bl

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:02:40PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > So.. this is/was a legacy allocation, right? with some 'not great' > contact/etc info... It's been announced by UCSD as a /8, consistently available, with tunnel services and rDNS available on a consistent basis, for a

Re: 44/8

finally they start selling it. Get Outlook for iOS From: NANOG on behalf of Siyuan Miao Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 11:07:38 AM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: 44/8 Did a fast lookup via ARIN WHOIS: 44/8 is now 44/9

Re: 44/8

A potential upside is that hamnet operators maybe have access to some RPKI services now!

Re: 44/8

Did a fast lookup via ARIN WHOIS: 44/8 is now 44/9 + 44.128/10 NetRange: 44.0.0.0 - 44.191.255.255 CIDR: 44.0.0.0/9, 44.128.0.0/10 NetName:AMPRNET NetHandle: NET-44-0-0-0-1 Parent: NET44 (NET-44-0-0-0-0) NetType:Direct Assignment OriginAS: Organization

Re: 44/8

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:59 PM Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > > > What's interesting about this is it was not an ARIN allocation, So.. this is/was a legacy allocation, right? with some 'not great' contact/etc info... the ARIN folk could have said: "Well sure! if the current folk who contr

44/8

Apparently isn't 44/8 anymore: NetRange: 44.192.0.0 - 44.255.255.255 CIDR: 44.192.0.0/10 NetName:AT-88-Z NetHandle: NET-44-192-0-0-1 Parent: NET44 (NET-44-0-0-0-0) NetType:Direct Allocation OriginAS: Organization: Amazon Technologies Inc. (AT-

Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC

On 7/18/19 3:15 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Michael Thomas" On 7/15/19 12:07 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Yes, of course we sent out calls with "spoofed" CNID. But, even though only 2 or 3 or our 5 carriers* held *our* feet to the fire, we held the clients'

Re: netstat -s

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 05:54:49PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? Sometimes - it depends on the problems and visibility/lack thereof provided by other methods. In the netstat family of flags, what I *really* miss is DEC's 'netstat -z'

Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC

- Original Message - > From: "Michael Thomas" > On 7/15/19 12:07 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: >> Yes, of course we sent out calls with "spoofed" CNID. >> >> But, even though only 2 or 3 or our 5 carriers* held *our* feet to the fire, >> we held the clients' feet to the fire, requiring them

Re: netstat -s, but off topic a bit

> Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > legacy system). > I have never thought of myself as subshell, even on a low carbohydrate system > netstat is now mostly obsolete. > Replacement for netstat is ss. > Replacement for netstat -r is ip route. > R

Re: Spam

- Original Message - > From: "jra" > Someone tell Trevor Walford at ECG in Valdosta that scraping the list for > addresses to spam is a suboptimal approach? I have to apologize to Mr Walford. A search through my old mail archive shows mail from his organization from a year and two yea

Re: netstat -s

> On Jul 17, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > indeed.

Re: netstat -s

> but could you answer my question? Just seemed like there was some urgency so I was curious. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > Why do you want to know? > > why do you want to know why i want to know? :) > >

Re: Twitter security team?

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:45:25PM -0600, Ken Gilmour wrote: > I have evidence and can't contact anyone due to > the lack of an appropriate form and the fact that the security@ email > address doesn't work. Of course I'm not surprised that the ignorant newbies running Twitter can't manage this: wh

Re: netstat -s

> Why do you want to know? why do you want to know why i want to know? :)

Re: netstat -s

Why do you want to know? On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 5:55 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > > legacy system). > > > > netstat is now mostly obsolete. > > Replacement for netstat is ss. > > Replacement for netstat -r is ip route. > > Rep

Re: netstat -s

> Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or > legacy system). > > netstat is now mostly obsolete.  > Replacement for netstat is ss.   > Replacement for  netstat -r is ip route. > Replacement for netstat -i is ip -s link. > Replacement for netstat -g is ip maddr. on s

Re: netstat -s

Ideally folks should be subshells (unless you're on a strange system or legacy system). netstat is now mostly obsolete.  Replacement for netstat is ss.   Replacement for  netstat -r is ip route. Replacement for netstat -i is ip -s link. Replacement for netstat -g is ip maddr. https://www.linux.co

Re: netstat -s

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chris Cariffe wrote: > [netstat] -rn and -an fan here! > Rarely use them. "ip route show" and "lsof +c 15 -nP | grep TCP" are normally more useful. -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/

Re: Twitter security team?

https://hackerone.com/twitter is the correct means to report -G On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 2:04 PM J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Or maybe a tweet to @twittersecurity > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:59, J. Hellenthal wrote: > > > > > > Yes/No ? > > > > > https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-poli

Re: Cisco wifi signal fluctuations

hi, do you have any of the WLC settings on such as dynamic power assignment (which allows the controller to work out neighbour cell coverage and reduce the signal to stop much overlap). which 5GHz channels are being used - if you're using those in DFS space then RADAR detection means that DAC wil

Re: Twitter security team?

Because I didn't find the vulnerability, I'm not looking for a bug bounty and I don't know what the vulnerability is, just seeing the effects of it. On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 13:06, Ross Tajvar wrote: > Why is Hacker one wrong? Seems like this would be exactly what it's for. > > On Thu, Jul 18, 201

Re: Twitter security team?

no On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 12:59, J. Hellenthal wrote: > > Yes/No ? > > > https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/reporting-security-vulnerabilities > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:45, Ken Gilmour wrote: > > > > Anyone on the list know how to contact the Twitter Security team? > > > > Seems

RE: Twitter security team?

They also have a bug bounty program on HackerOne: https://hackerone.com/twitter > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of J. Hellenthal > via NANOG > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 3:01 PM > To: Ken Gilmour > Cc: North Group > Subject: Re: Twitter secu

Re: Twitter security team?

Why is Hacker one wrong? Seems like this would be exactly what it's for. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 3:04 PM J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Or maybe a tweet to @twittersecurity > > > On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:59, J. Hellenthal wrote: > > > > > > Yes/No ? > > > > > https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and

Re: Twitter security team?

Or maybe a tweet to @twittersecurity > On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:59, J. Hellenthal wrote: > > > Yes/No ? > > https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/reporting-security-vulnerabilities > >> On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:45, Ken Gilmour wrote: >> >> Anyone on the list know how to contact the Twi

Re: Twitter security team?

Yes/No ? https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/reporting-security-vulnerabilities > On Jul 18, 2019, at 13:45, Ken Gilmour wrote: > > Anyone on the list know how to contact the Twitter Security team? > > Seems the new update allows an attacker to modify other people's tweets. The >

Twitter security team?

Anyone on the list know how to contact the Twitter Security team? Seems the new update allows an attacker to modify other people's tweets. The "Hackerone" form for reporting a vulnerability is the wrong form and the "My account has been hacked" form is also the wrong form. The whole site has been

Cisco wifi signal fluctuations

On Cisco wifi, we started seeing signal fluctuations since 1-2 months. The only change that was done to change windows user preference from 2.4 GHz Radio to 5 GHz radio through a windows group policy change. But this was done in response to the problem reported by certain users.We have lately di

Re: netstat -s

-rn and -an fan here! On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:56 PM Randy Bush wrote: > do folk use `netstat -s` to help diagnose on routers/switches? > > randy >

Re: Bgpmon alternatives?

We moved to Thousandeyes for this function D'Wayne Saunders From: NANOG on behalf of TJ Trout Date: Thursday, 18 July 2019 at 10:15 am To: Matt Corallo Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Bgpmon alternatives? [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be cautious, particularly

Re: Bgpmon alternatives?

I also cannot find a way to subscribe to your hijack notifications? On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 10:45 PM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:16 AM TJ Trout wrote: > > Anyone know of a hosted alternative to bgpmon? I'm testing > > Qrator but I can't determine if it will notify in real

Re: Colo in Africa

You might want to consider attending AfPIF in Mauritius 20-22 Aug https://www.afpif.org/ -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -- -

Re: Fiber providers - Englewood / Centennial Colorado

Thanks Mike I hit up crown and they have some segments, just not quite enough. I’ll try Windstream and see what I can find. Thanks J~ > On Jul 18, 2019, at 08:57, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Depending on what you're trying to do, you might find some bits and pieces > from Windstream, Crown Cas

Re: Colo in Africa

On 18/Jul/19 11:04, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote: > Africa, Russia... > > You can take as example Lebanon. > Capital and major city in tiny country, ~40km away from each other, > and only way you can get 2 points connected over microwaves(due > mountains - several hops), over "licensed" providers

Re: Antennas in the data center

Being told "industry standard" seems like a cop out for "we don't want to do it". Which is a completely legitimate response, but ideally they'd just come out and say that. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM Robert Webb wrote: > The is booster to only get an LTE signal from Verizon into the data >

Re: Antennas in the data center

The is booster to only get an LTE signal from Verizon into the data center.. For our purpose of needing it, we have a cisco router with LTE for our system as a back management access in case of loss to the system by normal means. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Andrew Latham wrote: > I agree w

Re: Antennas in the data center

    Hi,     Some PCI auditors (loaded words right there) will freak out and you're stuck explaining the concept of life all over again...     Anyway, those works in a DC (25k') built inside a support structure for a train station =D.     https://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/     Wilson Pro 70 P

Re: Antennas in the data center

I agree with Miles that this is more of an infiltration and or ex-filtration of data issue. Can you firewall at the booster? Out of Band management is tricky when LTE bandwidth is so high that one could export large quantities of data. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:28 AM Miles Fidelman wrote: > It's

Re: Antennas in the data center

On 7/18/19 7:54 AM, Robert Webb wrote: Thanks for the info on the standards portion. The booster configuration has been setup in a test scenario where the external antenna has been placed outside with line of site to the tower, less than a tenth of a mile away, with the feed cable run down

Re: Antennas in the data center

It's not quite clear what you mean by "NIST controls" - NIST publishes standards & guidelines, they don't regulate. Now, if you're running a Federal data center, or one for a government contractor - perhaps you're referring to "NIST Compliance" under FISMA (the Federal Information Security Man

Re: Antennas in the data center

On 7/18/19 6:54 AM, Robert Webb wrote: Manager has no issue with equipment purchased and has polled the other tenants in the same data center and they are also OK with it. He has just cited that there is some standard but has not been forthcoming with any documentation. Never heard of su

Re: Fiber providers - Englewood / Centennial Colorado

Depending on what you're trying to do, you might find some bits and pieces from Windstream, Crown Castle, UPN, and XO. They're all in that Englewood - Centennial area in different ways with different capabilities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchan

Re: Antennas in the data center

Thanks for the info on the standards portion. The booster configuration has been setup in a test scenario where the external antenna has been placed outside with line of site to the tower, less than a tenth of a mile away, with the feed cable run down a hallway indoors, the booster connected, and

Re: Antennas in the data center

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:30 AM Robert Webb wrote: > So I have a situation where I am trying to get LTE to an out of band > router and there is no signal available in the data center. There was a > booster setup purchased and I have a manager telling me that standards, > industry and not local, p

Re: Antennas in the data center

So I have a situation where I am trying to get LTE to an out of band router and there is no signal available in the data center. There was a booster setup purchased and I have a manager telling me that standards, industry and not local, prohibit the installation. He has yet to produce any document

Re: Antennas in the data center

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:01 AM Robert Webb wrote: > Anyone out there deal with data center design? > > Looking for any info available which provides guidelines on putting > antennas, like LTE booster, in the data center. > Not quite sure what you're looking for here Robert. As far as placing so

Antennas in the data center

Anyone out there deal with data center design? Looking for any info available which provides guidelines on putting antennas, like LTE booster, in the data center.

Re: netstat -s

I know I have a few times after seeing SNMP bumps of errors but mainly just so I could get up to the moment error rates or stats. Other than that though it’s a very minor usage IMO -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about antici

Re: Bgpmon alternatives?

On 18/07/2019 08:44, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 3:16 AM TJ Trout wrote: Anyone know of a hosted alternative to bgpmon? I'm testing Qrator but I can't determine if it will notify in real-time of a prefix hijack? Qrator guy there. Real-time notifications are there but are o

Re: Colo in Africa

Africa, Russia... You can take as example Lebanon. Capital and major city in tiny country, ~40km away from each other, and only way you can get 2 points connected over microwaves(due mountains - several hops), over "licensed" providers, DSP, who hook this points for $10-$30/mbps/month. And man

Re: Colo in Africa

On 18/Jul/19 00:04, Rod Beck wrote: > Circuits linking Asia & Europe via Siberia have proven highly > unreliable. Repairs are long and difficult. And arguably Russia is a > better case scenario than Africa. More politically stable. Better > finances. Better basic infrastructure.  Wasn't aware R