Re: Art and Tech is madness

[Chris Boyd]

There’s also this gem from 2005 or 2007 days. I’ve heard Cisco staff was 
involved in its creation.

http://www.mattzrelak.com/mp3/t1down.htm

—Chris

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Ca By  wrote:
> 
> See below for high value of the list, both items are very pleasing
> 
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:10 AM Hank Nussbacher  wrote:
> On 05/09/2019 08:09, Kasper Adel wrote:
> 
> No.  This is art & tech from 12 years ago:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
> 
> -Hank
> 
>> In SPRING a time when segment and routing had no mismatch, a time when isis 
>> and ospf ate a forbidden encap, all they had to do was forward bgp like its 
>> hot, but crazy flapping doesnt leave any real LDP without some real FSM 
>> check, My dynamic unnumbered neighbor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Suddenly, Out of order, an AS is overridden, we see frames dropping, we 
>> sniff a bit and it turns out, sfps are burning, we are in a place right now 
>> where ping and pong are jittery, their latency is tested, they cant 
>> strengthen their icmp bond with a warm bfd message, how can they keep 
>> everyone in ACK, safe from teardown and dampening, with this kind of ixp 
>> relationship??! but oh admin, we know forwarding works in its own mysterious 
>> ways. We are left with two non rfc compliant scavengers, bastard 802.1ah 
>> fools in a leaky yet shaped, buffer display of some runts and nimbles, and a 
>> giant too. 
>> 
>> They start their life of a packet, leaving one interface to a neighbor, from 
>> an adjacency to a peer, an endless loop, its a prefix hijack, but as they 
>> move from one stack to another, finding their way through a tunnel of memory 
>> failures and RMAs, one hell of an LSP ride, through firewall horrors and MTU 
>> mismatches, leaving behind, a sea of syslog messages and snmp alarms. 
>> Anyway, Their ttl expired and one funny access list abruptly denies them 
>> life, sending them to Null0, where they can be peacefully discarded.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thats what tech does to yeh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: rr.level3.net on autopilot?

[Delacruz, Anthony B]

Shoot an email to ipad...@centurylink.com and we'll give you a hand. If you are 
an active customer with valid circuit ID getting help from the NOC on this 
should be a solution they know how to provide, if you have reached the correct 
center. Folks that are not or have left behind old entries needing removed 
without a current relationship reach out to the ipadmin team for help.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jon Lewis
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: rr.level3.net on autopilot?

I was doing some IRR clean-up and after a few successful updates, I'm no
longer able to alter or delete our objects in rr.level3.com.

Emails to r...@level3.com result in no action and no response.  I've tried
reaching out to the Level3 (Centurylink) NOC via email and phone, and
can't seem to find anyone who knows what rr.level3.com is, much less knows
who to talk to about troubleshooting.  Anyone know who (if anyone) keeps
the wheels spinning on the Level3 IRR?

--
  Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
  |  therefore you are
_ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_

This communication is the property of CenturyLink and may contain confidential 
or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this communication is strictly 
prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in 
error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all 
copies of the communication and any attachments.

Re: rr.level3.net on autopilot?

[Bryan Fields]

On 9/5/19 2:05 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> I was doing some IRR clean-up and after a few successful updates, I'm no 
> longer able to alter or delete our objects in rr.level3.com.
> 
> Emails to r...@level3.com result in no action and no response.  I've tried 
> reaching out to the Level3 (Centurylink) NOC via email and phone, and 
> can't seem to find anyone who knows what rr.level3.com is, much less knows 
> who to talk to about troubleshooting.  Anyone know who (if anyone) keeps 
> the wheels spinning on the Level3 IRR?

The other day I tried to clean up some old entries from the 2000's and Genuity
entries that became part of it.  This was a failure, the NOC knew nothing
about it, and worse didn't get my black rocket jokes. No one working there
knew what Genuity was.

I gave up.
-- 
Bryan Fields

727-409-1194 - Voice
http://bryanfields.net

Re: Spam due to new ARIN allocation

[JASON BOTHE via NANOG]

Oddly enough, I created a Z Org for legacy resources and got hit up on 
linked-in by IPv4 brokers as well as some spam from Cogent. 

Annoying. 

> On Aug 4, 2019, at 09:29, Tim Burke  wrote:
> 
> Done, Sir. Thanks.
> 
> Tim Burke
> t...@burke.us
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> Tim -  
>> 
>> When you have moment, could you forward both of those Whois spam messages to 
>> complia...@arin.net ?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>> 
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers]
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 7:32 PM, Tim Burke  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We recently received a new ASN from ARIN - you know what that means... the 
>>> sales vultures come out to play!
>>> 
>>> So far, it has resulted in spam from Cogent (which is, of course, to be 
>>> expected), and now another company called "CapCon Networks" - 
>>> http://www.capconnetworks.com. As far as I am aware, this practice is 
>>> against ARIN's Terms of Use. Is it worth reporting to ARIN, or perhaps it's 
>>> worth creating a List of People To Never Do Business With™, complete with 
>>> these jokers, and other vultures that engage in similar tactics? 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim Burke
>>> t...@burke.us
> 

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Eric Kuhnke]

Many others have already recommended these, but I suggest installing test
VMs of both phpipam and nipap and seeing which works best for your use
case.

NIPAP has fairly extensive tools supporting automation for provisioning.
phpipam has a few additional functions on top of only ip address
management, it also appears to have been designed for a use case where
people are running geographically spread out layer 2 services and keeping
track of which vlan belongs to which customer.




On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:36 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>
> thanks in advance.
>

rr.level3.net on autopilot?

[Jon Lewis]

I was doing some IRR clean-up and after a few successful updates, I'm no 
longer able to alter or delete our objects in rr.level3.com.


Emails to r...@level3.com result in no action and no response.  I've tried 
reaching out to the Level3 (Centurylink) NOC via email and phone, and 
can't seem to find anyone who knows what rr.level3.com is, much less knows 
who to talk to about troubleshooting.  Anyone know who (if anyone) keeps 
the wheels spinning on the Level3 IRR?


--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 |  therefore you are
_ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Ben Cannon]

I’ve both been exposed to newer and better tools - and been annoyed at the 
noise - in NANOG for almost 2 decades now.

So far phpipam has suited our needs.  However it takes quite a few clicks to 
get things done, and anytime you can remove friction you have an opportunity 
for a better product.

-Ben

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:06 AM, David Hubbard  
> wrote:
> 
> I wish Digital Ocean would put as much effort into policing their network; at 
> least two thirds of the malicious traffic hitting our customers comes from an 
> even split between them and OVH.
>  
> From: NANOG  on behalf of Mel Beckman 
> 
> Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 10:48 AM
> To: Phillip Carroll 
> Cc: nanog 
> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations
>  
> I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently 
> use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is 
> up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is 
> the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying 
> out.
>  
> It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be 
> assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It 
> also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres 
> under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means 
> you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.
>  
> The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for 
> accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.
> 
>  -mel 
> 
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll  wrote:
> 
>  
> https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox 
> 
>  
>  
> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Andrew 
> Latham
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM
> Cc: nanog 
> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations
>  
>  [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>  
> Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list 
> last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018
>  
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus 
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>  
> thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> --
> - Andrew "lathama" Latham -

Re: IPAM recommendations

[David Hubbard]

I wish Digital Ocean would put as much effort into policing their network; at 
least two thirds of the malicious traffic hitting our customers comes from an 
even split between them and OVH.

From: NANOG  on behalf of Mel Beckman 

Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 10:48 AM
To: Phillip Carroll 
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations

I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently 
use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up 
for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the 
kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out.

It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be 
assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also 
supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under 
the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can 
also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.

The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for 
accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.
 -mel

On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll 
mailto:phill...@phmgmt.com>> wrote:


https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox


From: NANOG 
mailto:nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt@nanog.org>>
 On Behalf Of Andrew Latham
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM
Cc: nanog mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations

 [EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last 
time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin 
mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

thanks in advance.


--
- Andrew "lathama" Latham -

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Grimes, Greg]

I highly recommend Netbox. We use it for our Source of Truth.

From: NANOG  on behalf of Mehmet Akcin 

Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:52:09 AM
To: Nuno Vieira 
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group 
Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations

I forgot to mention Netbox 
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox

integration (of some kind ) with LibreNMS is plus

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nuno Vieira 
mailto:n...@hashpower.pt>> wrote:
Check phpipam

https://phpipam.net/




From: "Mehmet Akcin" mailto:meh...@akcin.net>>
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Sent: Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19
Subject: IPAM recommendations

Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Nuno Vieira via NANOG]

Check phpipam 

[ https://phpipam.net/ | https://phpipam.net/ ] 




From: "Mehmet Akcin"  
To: "North American Network Operators' Group"  
Sent: Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19 
Subject: IPAM recommendations 

Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. 
thanks in advance. 

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mehmet Akcin]

Thanks for confirming. This is exactly what I think.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 23:47 Mel Beckman  wrote:

> I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We
> currently use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current
> license is up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital
> Ocean, which is the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source
> project from dying out.
>
> It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be
> assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It
> also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres
> under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means
> you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.
>
> The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for
> accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.
>
>
>  -mel
>
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll  wrote:
>
>
>
> https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of
> *Andrew Latham
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM
> *Cc:* nanog 
> *Subject:* Re: IPAM recommendations
>
>
>
>  [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
>
>
> Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list
> last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>
> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>
>
>
> thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
>
> --
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mel Beckman]

I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently 
use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up 
for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the 
kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out.

It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be 
assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also 
supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under 
the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can 
also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.

The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for 
accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.

 -mel

On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll 
mailto:phill...@phmgmt.com>> wrote:



https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox


From: NANOG 
mailto:nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt@nanog.org>>
 On Behalf Of Andrew Latham
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM
Cc: nanog mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations

 [EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last 
time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin 
mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

thanks in advance.


--
- Andrew "lathama" Latham -

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Valdis Klētnieks]

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:20:19 +0900, Mehmet Akcin said:

> I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am
> not happy and decided to go with something open source

Can you mention why you're unhappy with the product?  Price, a critical
feature that was lacking, something else?

Software in a segment never improves unless the vendors/developers know
that doing XYZ well/poorly is a market differentiator



pgpHlBwjcXqkD.pgp
Description: PGP signature

RE: IPAM recommendations

[Phillip Carroll]

https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox


From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Andrew 
Latham
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM
Cc: nanog 
Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations

 [EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last 
time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin 
mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

thanks in advance.


--
- Andrew "lathama" Latham -

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Andrew Latham]

Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list
last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>
> thanks in advance.
>


-- 
- Andrew "lathama" Latham -

Re: Art and Tech is madness

[Ca By]

See below for high value of the list, both items are very pleasing

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:10 AM Hank Nussbacher  wrote:

> On 05/09/2019 08:09, Kasper Adel wrote:
>
> No.  This is art & tech from 12 years ago:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
>
> -Hank
>
> In SPRING a time when segment and routing had no mismatch, a time when
> isis and ospf ate a forbidden encap, all they had to do was forward bgp
> like its hot, but crazy flapping doesnt leave any real LDP without some
> real FSM check, My dynamic unnumbered neighbor.
>
>
> Suddenly, Out of order, an AS is overridden, we see frames dropping, we
> sniff a bit and it turns out, sfps are burning, we are in a place right now
> where ping and pong are jittery, their latency is tested, they cant
> strengthen their icmp bond with a warm bfd message, how can they keep
> everyone in ACK, safe from teardown and dampening, with this kind of ixp
> relationship??! but oh admin, we know forwarding works in its own
> mysterious ways. We are left with two non rfc compliant scavengers, bastard
> 802.1ah fools in a leaky yet shaped, buffer display of some runts and
> nimbles, and a giant too.
>
> They start their life of a packet, leaving one interface to a neighbor,
> from an adjacency to a peer, an endless loop, its a prefix hijack, but as
> they move from one stack to another, finding their way through a tunnel of
> memory failures and RMAs, one hell of an LSP ride, through firewall horrors
> and MTU mismatches, leaving behind, a sea of syslog messages and snmp
> alarms. Anyway, Their ttl expired and one funny access list abruptly denies
> them life, sending them to Null0, where they can be peacefully discarded.
>
>
> Thats what tech does to yeh
>
>


>

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Ca By]

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 2:58 AM Todd Underwood  wrote:

>
>  that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill of
> the community here.  this is becoming a pattern.
>

+1 on this noisy pattern. Hire an consultant to google these things for
you.

>

Re: Art and Tech is madness

[Hank Nussbacher]

On 05/09/2019 08:09, Kasper Adel wrote:

No.  This is art & tech from 12 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0

-Hank

In SPRING a time when segment and routing had no mismatch, a time when 
isis and ospf ate a forbidden encap, all they had to do was forward 
bgp like its hot, but crazy flapping doesnt leave any real LDP without 
some real FSM check, My dynamic unnumbered neighbor.



Suddenly, Out of order, an AS is overridden, we see frames dropping, 
we sniff a bit and it turns out, sfps are burning, we are in a place 
right now where ping and pong are jittery, their latency is tested, 
they cant strengthen their icmp bond with a warm bfd message, how can 
they keep everyone in ACK, safe from teardown and dampening, with this 
kind of ixp relationship??! but oh admin, we know forwarding works in 
its own mysterious ways. We are left with two non rfc compliant 
scavengers, bastard 802.1ah fools in a leaky yet shaped, buffer 
display of some runts and nimbles, and a giant too.


They start their life of a packet, leaving one interface to a 
neighbor, from an adjacency to a peer, an endless loop, its a prefix 
hijack, but as they move from one stack to another, finding their way 
through a tunnel of memory failures and RMAs, one hell of an LSP ride, 
through firewall horrors and MTU mismatches, leaving behind, a sea of 
syslog messages and snmp alarms. Anyway, Their ttl expired and one 
funny access list abruptly denies them life, sending them to Null0, 
where they can be peacefully discarded.



Thats what tech does to yeh

Re: IPAM recommendations

[niels=nanog]

* m...@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) [Thu 05 Sep 2019, 14:17 CEST]:
I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog 
members ask each other for operational tool recommendations all the 
time, and since these products are right up the alley of Nanog’s 
mission — network operations — it’s a perfectly reasonable use of 
Nanog.


Did you read Todd's email at all?  He asked the poster to do more 
homework before bothering the mailing list membership, an entirely 
reasonable request, especially given their recent posting history 
of similarly worded questions with lack of background supplied.




But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history,


This is laughably wrong.  Todd is a long-time NANOG attendee and has 
even served on its Program Committee.  (Pot, kettle, black.)



-- Niels.

Re: IPAM recommendations

[J. Hellenthal via NANOG]

phpIPAM

-- 
 J. Hellenthal

The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a 
lot about anticipated traffic volume.

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 03:36, Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus 
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
> 
> thanks in advance.

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mehmet Akcin]

Lets focus on the technology. Netbox is solid. I am leaning towards this
since its open source and there is some librenms integration.

I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am
not happy and decided to go with something open source

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 21:16 Mel Beckman  wrote:

> Todd,
>
> I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog members
> ask each other for operational tool recommendations all the time, and since
> these products are right up the alley of Nanog’s mission — network
> operations — it’s a perfectly reasonable use of Nanog.
>
> But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history, which
> would immediately show you how frequently Nanog serves in just this kind of
> valuable role, THAT’S unkind.
>
>
>  -mel
>
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Todd Underwood  wrote:
>
> i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog.  if you have
> research to present and then a question to ask, that's totally great.  this
> is especially true if you can add evaluative criteria and information
> before asking questions from people who have relevant experience.
>
> you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for
> you.  that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill
> of the community here.  this is becoming a pattern.  please either do some
> research yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid
> consultants to evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking
> gear etc.
>
> best,
>
> t
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>
>> Not much beyond this,
>> https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What have you evaluated so far?  Can you share your evaluation grid, how
>>> you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific
>>> interesting findings so far?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>>>
 Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
 (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

 thanks in advance.

>>> --
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mel Beckman]

Todd,

I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog members ask 
each other for operational tool recommendations all the time, and since these 
products are right up the alley of Nanog’s mission — network operations — it’s 
a perfectly reasonable use of Nanog.

But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history, which 
would immediately show you how frequently Nanog serves in just this kind of 
valuable role, THAT’S unkind.

 -mel

On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Todd Underwood 
mailto:toddun...@gmail.com>> wrote:

i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog.  if you have research to 
present and then a question to ask, that's totally great.  this is especially 
true if you can add evaluative criteria and information before asking questions 
from people who have relevant experience.

you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for you.  
that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill of the 
community here.  this is becoming a pattern.  please either do some research 
yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid consultants to 
evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking gear etc.

best,

t



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin 
mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote:
Not much beyond this, 
https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood 
mailto:toddun...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What have you evaluated so far?  Can you share your evaluation grid, how you 
selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific 
interesting findings so far?

Thanks!

t

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin 
mailto:meh...@akcin.net>> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost 
must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

thanks in advance.

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Todd Underwood]

i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog.  if you have research
to present and then a question to ask, that's totally great.  this is
especially true if you can add evaluative criteria and information before
asking questions from people who have relevant experience.

you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for
you.  that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill
of the community here.  this is becoming a pattern.  please either do some
research yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid
consultants to evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking
gear etc.

best,

t



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> Not much beyond this,
> https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood  wrote:
>
>> What have you evaluated so far?  Can you share your evaluation grid, how
>> you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific
>> interesting findings so far?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> t
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
>>> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance.
>>>
>>

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mehmet Akcin]

I forgot to mention Netbox https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox

integration (of some kind ) with LibreNMS is plus

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nuno Vieira  wrote:

> Check phpipam
>
> https://phpipam.net/
>
>
>
> --
> *From: *"Mehmet Akcin" 
> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19
> *Subject: *IPAM recommendations
>
> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
> thanks in advance.
>
>

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Mehmet Akcin]

Not much beyond this,
https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood  wrote:

> What have you evaluated so far?  Can you share your evaluation grid, how
> you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific
> interesting findings so far?
>
> Thanks!
>
> t
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>
>> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
>> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>>
>> thanks in advance.
>>
>

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Todd Underwood]

What have you evaluated so far?  Can you share your evaluation grid, how
you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific
interesting findings so far?

Thanks!

t

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
>
> thanks in advance.
>

Re: IPAM recommendations

[Måns Nilsson]

Subject: IPAM recommendations Date: Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 05:35:19PM +0900 
Quoting Mehmet Akcin (meh...@akcin.net):
> Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
> (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

nipap

infoblox if you are an enterprise needing AD herding and got too much cash. 

-- 
Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE   SA0XLR+46 705 989668
I had pancake makeup for brunch!


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

IPAM recommendations

[Mehmet Akcin]

Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus
(almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.

thanks in advance.