Re: Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Michael Crapse
IPv6 is a lot more granular when it comes to geolocation data. It is also very very unlikely that the block has been used before, and you never know what the previous owner did or what geolocation/VPN blacklists it was added to. Let me put it this way, this is a familiar song and dance for us, and

Re: Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Randy Bush
> IPv6 support by disney(using AWS) would obviate this issue. ok. i give. exactly how? i mean technically. randy

Re: Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Michael Crapse
I sent an email there too, I think that this should be very apparent by now, but IPv6 support by disney(using AWS) would obviate this issue. Imagine if a multibillion dollar company can't implement ipv6, what hope do the smaller ones have? /s On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 20:37, Aden Dragulescu wrote:

Re: Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Aden Dragulescu
Try netad...@disneystreaming.com. Was on their whois. -- *Aden Dragulescu* fiberdrop, LLC a...@fiberdrop.net On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:27 PM Michael Crapse wrote: > There has been a continued flurry of trouble tickets from our eyeballs. I > did find a contact cl...@disneystreaming.com that

Re: Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Michael Crapse
There has been a continued flurry of trouble tickets from our eyeballs. I did find a contact cl...@disneystreaming.com that i have reached out to in hope that they can hear our pleas. On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 16:53, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > We're seeing the same thing. Actually we saw it

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 15:32 -0800, Matthew Petach wrote: > My point was that Disney has a lock on much of the content kids love. Which was, until Disney+, on Netflix. https://www.theverge.com/2012/12/4/3727688/netflix-streaming-rights-new-disney-marvel-pixar-movies > Netflix/HBO/AmazonPrime,

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Matthew Petach
My point was that Disney has a lock on much of the content kids love. Netflix/HBO/AmazonPrime, not so much. So, the new eyeballs aren't going to be from parents watching different shows, it'll be from parents watching their adult-ish stuff, while the kids are happily ensconced with Disney+. I

Disney+ Geolocation issues

2019-11-12 Thread Michael Crapse
Myself and a few other ISPs are having our eyeballs complain about disney+ saying that they're on a VPN. Does anyone have any idea, or who to contact regarding this issue? This is most likely improper geolocation databases. Anyone have an idea who they use? Mike

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2019-11-12 Thread John Sage
On 11/12/19 11:49 AM, Justin Krejci wrote: I see the Disney service went live today, with some load issues according to various news reports and down detector. Is it well known where the newly released Disney+ streaming service content is sourced? Are they using their own servers on AS22604 or

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Wayne Bouchard
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 04:52:25PM -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 12:53 -0800, Matthew Petach wrote: > > Different target audiences. > > That are already satisfied with existing services, so no new target > audiences. > > > Now the parents can be watching "Good Omens" or

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 12:53 -0800, Matthew Petach wrote: > Different target audiences. That are already satisfied with existing services, so no new target audiences. > Now the parents can be watching "Good Omens" or "Game of Thrones" on > Netflix while the kids are streaming "The Lion King" on

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 08:17 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > > People can really only watch one thing at a time. This is my thought also. > Net streaming of the last mile > is unlikely to change much. Just where that content is coming from > may change. Indeed. Cheers, b. signature.asc

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > People can really only watch one thing at a time. Net streaming of the last > mile > is unlikely to change much. Just where that content is coming from may > change. This is my feeling as well. It may impact people whose models assume

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I guess the question is, will Disney content compel users who are not > already streaming to start streaming? > Maybe, maybe not. But what is 100% certain is that Disney knows how to make content that people want to watch a LOT of , and Disney+ is going to be the only place to get that

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Mark Andrews
They can already stream different content to multiple devices simultaneously. All this does is make some content that wasn’t available previously now available. People can really only watch one thing at a time. Net streaming of the last mile is unlikely to change much. Just where that content

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Blake Hudson
Neither Good Omens nor Game of Thrones are available for streaming on Netflix (you'll have to go to one of their competitors). Overall I tend to agree with Brian that people's time and eyeballs are finite. As more streaming services emerge, usage will simply be split between streaming

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Matthew Petach
Different target audiences. Now the parents can be watching "Good Omens" or "Game of Thrones" on Netflix while the kids are streaming "The Lion King" on Disney+ streaming. Instead of the whole family watching one show together, now we have segmentation in the marketplace. End result is more

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 15:26 -0500, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > I can foresee a lot of families subscribing to Netflix *and* Disney+ > because neither one has all the content the family wants to watch. Absolutely. But the time spent watching Disney would *replace* (not be in addition to, or

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:58:34 -0500, "Brian J. Murrell" said: > I guess the question is, will Disney content compel users who are not > already streaming to start streaming? I can foresee a lot of families subscribing to Netflix *and* Disney+ because neither one has all the content the family

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Clayton Zekelman
At 03:17 PM 12/11/2019, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Fair enough, in the cases where operators are Netflix OC partners and might see a shift in network use from a Netflic OC appliance to external their network to other streaming services. But for an operator who doesn't have an OC Appliances, is

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 15:08 -0500, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > Netflix has done a great job deploying OC Appliances. A Netflix > user != Amazon, Hulu, etc... Fair enough, in the cases where operators are Netflix OC partners and might see a shift in network use from a Netflic OC appliance to

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Clayton Zekelman
Netflix has done a great job deploying OC Appliances. A Netflix user != Amazon, Hulu, etc... At 02:58 PM 12/11/2019, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 19:49 +, Justin Krejci wrote: > > As the service grows in popularity, and its breadth of content and > manageable price is

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Michael Crapse
They have some improper geolocation for us, would be nice to have them input to this chain. On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:00 PM Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 19:49 +, Justin Krejci wrote: > > > > As the service grows in popularity, and its breadth of content and > > manageable

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 19:49 +, Justin Krejci wrote: > > As the service grows in popularity, and its breadth of content and > manageable price is likely to attract a lot of growth, I'd like to > plan for any necessary augmentations to the network. From the end-user/viewer network capacity

Re: Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Eric Dugas
I saw various content being served from Akamai, Amazon, Fastly and Limelight so far. I'm in Montreal. Video is served from the following hosts: vod-akc-na-central-1.media.dssott.com vod-ftc-na-central-1.media.dssott.com vod-ftc-na-east-1.media.dssott.com vod-ftc-na-west-2.media.dssott.com

Disney+ Streaming

2019-11-12 Thread Justin Krejci
I see the Disney service went live today, with some load issues according to various news reports and down detector. Is it well known where the newly released Disney+ streaming service content is sourced? Are they using their own servers on AS22604 or using one or more of the established CDNs?

How can CDN and Cloud providers effectively contribute to routing security?

2019-11-12 Thread Andrei Robachevsky
Hello, Following up on my lightning talk at NANOG77 (https://pc.nanog.org/static/published/meetings/NANOG77/2147/20191030_Robachevsky_Lightning_Talk_Next_v1.pdf), here is the draft MANRS action set for CDN and Cloud operators: https://www.manrs.org/cdn-cloud-providers/cfc-draft-action-set/ Your