Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 04/12/2019 05:04, Matthew Pounsett wrote: Cute way to promote Google Groups over Mailman.  Gotta give 'em credit for being creative :-) -Hank For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails to someone who's an admin on a list I host.  Their SMTP 552 error messa

Re: Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Ross Tajvar
You might have better luck emailing the mailops list. On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 10:06 PM Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails > to someone who's an admin on a list I host. Their SMTP 552 error message > points to

Gmail email blocking is off the rails (again)

2019-12-03 Thread Matthew Pounsett
For some reason Gmail has started blocking mailman administrative emails to someone who's an admin on a list I host. Their SMTP 552 error message points to , which implies the "problem" is the URLs in the email, but is otherwise completely unhelpf

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Fernando Gont
On 3/12/19 17:47, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> On 4 Dec 2019, at 02:04, Fernando Gont wrote: >> >> On 3/12/19 00:12, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> >>> On 3 Dec 2019, at 13:31, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:04:24 -0800, Fred Baker said: >> I believe that Dmitry's

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/3/19 10:04 AM, Fernando Gont wrote: Wwll, yeah.. you don't need IPv4 addresses if you are going to be using somebody else's networks and services. Not that you should, though OTOH, many many organizations, especially outside of service providers, in fact DO such a thing. I'd suspect

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Fred Baker
> On Dec 3, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:58:59 -0800, FREDERICK BAKER said: > >> I think he is saying that companies like Reliance JIO have started with a /22 >> of IPv4 and a /32 (or more) of IPv6, > > As I said - you need IPv4 space to dual-stack. Ho

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:58:59 -0800, FREDERICK BAKER said: > I think he is saying that companies like Reliance JIO have started with a /22 > of IPv4 and a /32 (or more) of IPv6, As I said - you need IPv4 space to dual-stack. How does Reliance do this without any v4 address space? pgpZzt54PJqbb.p

Re: Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-03 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, We are following up off-list! This may be a good moment to mention that the excellent people at the NTT NOC are always available at n...@ntt.net, or the phone numbers listed in PeeringDB. :-) Kind regards, Job On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 23:19 Ben Cannon wrote: > We’re trying to figure ou

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 4 Dec 2019, at 09:51, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:47:25 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > >> Why not use someone else’s IPv4 addresses? Really. What is wrong with using >> someone else’s IPv4 addresses if it achieves the need? As far as I can tell >> nothing. > > Oth

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:47:25 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > Why not use someone else’s IPv4 addresses? Really. What is wrong with > using > someone else’s IPv4 addresses if it achieves the need? As far as I can tell > nothing. Other than the fact that a /24 is being advertised out of one AS

Comcast & NTT packet loss today

2019-12-03 Thread Ben Cannon
We’re trying to figure out wether this is an isolated or wider incident, looking like one of our customer’s flows is fragging between NTT and Comcast. 5 ae-0.a02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.3) 5.571 ms 13.026 ms 9.514 ms 6 ae-0.comcast.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.66.34)

Rural Broadband Article - New Yorker

2019-12-03 Thread Rod Beck
A great article on how a very poor Appalachian community was able to bring fiber to the premise. Currently one gig and being upgraded to ten gigs. https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-one-traffic-light-town-with-some-of-the-fastest-internet-in-the-us? Roderick Beck VP of Bus

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 4 Dec 2019, at 02:04, Fernando Gont wrote: > > On 3/12/19 00:12, Mark Andrews wrote: >> >> >>> On 3 Dec 2019, at 13:31, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:04:24 -0800, Fred Baker said: >>> > I believe that Dmitry's point is that we will still require IPv4 >>>

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:12:27 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > Email is often out sourced so you don’t need your own IPv4 addresses for > that. > Then there is in the cloud for other services, again you don’t need your > own IPv4 > addresses. Are you seriously trying to say "If you're a new compa

A new open source RPKI CA solution: NLnet Labs' Krill

2019-12-03 Thread Job Snijders
Dear fellow network operators, It appears Santa brought presents early this year! I'd like to draw attention to the below forwarded message and provide my take on it. Some of you represent organisations that interact with multiple RIRs, and have concluded it can be challenging to figure out the R

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Fernando Gont
On 3/12/19 00:12, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >> On 3 Dec 2019, at 13:31, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: >> >> On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:04:24 -0800, Fred Baker said: >> I believe that Dmitry's point is that we will still require IPv4 addresses for new organizations deploying dual-stack >>> >>

Re: RIPE our of IPv4

2019-12-03 Thread Randy Bush
> Why does a new organisation need to have any global IPv4 addresses of > their own at all? if all folk saying such things would make their in- and out-bound mail servers v6-only, it would reduce confusion in this area. randy