Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Michael Thomas
On 12/8/19 3:37 PM, Fred Baker wrote: Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2019, at 9:03 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: For SP-grade routers, there isn't "code" that needs to be added to combat buffer bloat. All an admin has to do is cut back on the number of packet buffers on each interface -- an

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Fred Baker
Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2019, at 9:03 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > > For SP-grade routers, there isn't "code" that needs to be added to combat > buffer bloat. All an admin has to do is cut back on the number of packet > buffers on each interface -- an interface setting, you see. A

Spoofer Report for NANOG for Nov 2019

2019-12-08 Thread CAIDA Spoofer Project
In response to feedback from operational security communities, CAIDA's source address validation measurement project (https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which we received packets with a spoofed source address.

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brandon Martin said: > I guess what I'm getting at is that it sounds like, if you cannot > source the content locally to the peering link, there's not likely > to be an internal connection to the same site from somewhere else > within the Akamai network to deliver that content an

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Niels Bakker
* rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com (Rod Beck) [Sun 08 Dec 2019, 18:18 CET]: Last time I spoke with an Akamai engineer many years ago the network was purely transit. Is that evolving? https://conference.apnic.net/data/41/ix_100-akamai-apricot2016-23feb2016_1456157526.pdf Per those slides, PAIX

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Rod Beck
Last time I spoke with an Akamai engineer many years ago the network was purely transit. Is that evolving? From: NANOG on behalf of Jared Mauch Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 6:10 PM To: Brandon Martin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Elephant in the room - A

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Rod Beck
Yep. Real estate must be one of their largest expenses and unlike bandwidth it is not going down to price. 😃 From: Owen DeLong Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 6:07 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Jared Mauch ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai My g

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Dec 8, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: > > I guess what I'm getting at is that it sounds like, if you cannot source the > content locally to the peering link, there's not likely to be an internal > connection to the same site from somewhere else within the Akamai network to >

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Owen DeLong
My guess (and it’s just this since I haven’t been inside Akamai for a couple of years now) is that they are culling the less effective AANPs (from Akamai’s perspective) in favor of redeploying the hardware to more effective locations and/or to eliminate the cost of supporting/refreshing said har

Re: Puerto Rico IX (operational)

2019-12-08 Thread Mehmet Akcin
thank you all for the wonderful feedback. We are in the process of implementing https://www.ixpmanager.org/ as many recommended. IPv6 enabled. We were able to connect 4 major data centers within san Juan metro using n x 10G ring thanks to various partners and special thanks this time goes to OSnet

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/8/19 10:58 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: Not all content is suitable in all locations based on the physical security or market situation. We have some content that can not be served, an example is locations where there are licensing requirements (eg: ICP for China). You will see a different mix

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Let's take a minute and thank Jared for taking the time and responding. thank you, Jared. On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:58 AM Jared Mauch wrote: > Not all content is suitable in all locations based on the physical > security or market situation. We have some content that can not be served, > an exa

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Mark Delany
> Have there been any fundamental change in their network architecture > that might explain pulling these caches? Maybe not network architecture, but what if the cache-to-content ratio is dropping dramatically due to changes in consumer behavior and/or a huge increase in the underlying content (su

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Jared Mauch
Not all content is suitable in all locations based on the physical security or market situation. We have some content that can not be served, an example is locations where there are licensing requirements (eg: ICP for China). You will see a different mix from our 20940 vs 16625 as well. Those h

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Brandon Martin
On 12/7/19 7:19 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: Please see my email on Friday where I outlined a few of the dynamics at play. Akamai isn’t just one thing, it’s an entire basket of products that all have their own resulting behaviors. This is why even though you may peer with us directly you may not s

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Ben Cannon
+100, and thanks to Jared. -Ben > On Dec 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 8/Dec/19 02:19, Jared Mauch wrote: >> >> I’ve been working hard to provide value to our AANP partners as well. I’ll >> try to stop responding to the list at this point but don’t hesitate to >> co

Re: Elephant in the room - Akamai

2019-12-08 Thread Rod Beck
Taking boxes out of a network does not sound like 'emergent behavior' or unintended consequences. Sounds like a policy change. Perhaps they are being redeployed for better performance or perhaps shut down to lower costs. Or may be the cost of transit for Akamai at the margin is less than the cos