Expect (was: Software Defined Networks)

2019-12-12 Thread Stephen Satchell
I (and another programmer, now at Amazon) migrated our automation from TCL/Expect to Python/pexpect. I've had to write code for those portions of Expect that didn't carry over into pexpect. I also had to build a framework that allowed me to do rule-based programming in the same flavor as

Re: End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Ben Bartsch
+1 for Accedian If you're looking for more of a homemade solution, I've used the perfSONAR software suite on some cheap-ish servers running CentOS for 10gig testing. It's highly configurable. I had it set up to do scheduled tests so we could see how the network behaved over time. The results

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:47:29 -0800, Large Hadron Collider said: > Tcl still exists, though I don't think they use it for this anymore. At least on Fedora, expect 5.45.4 is linked against libtcl8.6.so. pgpW5_X20d9ag.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-12 Thread Quan Zhou
I do still use expect(tcl) whole lot at work, it is truly an underappreciated tool ever. On 12/13/19 10:47, Large Hadron Collider wrote: Tcl still exists, though I don't think they use it for this anymore. On 19-12-05 10 h 17, Bryan Holloway wrote: On 12/5/19 6:16 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore

Re: Software Defined Networks

2019-12-12 Thread Large Hadron Collider
Tcl still exists, though I don't think they use it for this anymore. On 19-12-05 10 h 17, Bryan Holloway wrote: On 12/5/19 6:16 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I tell everyone we had SDNs in the 90s. But we called it “expect scripts”. :-) -- TTFN, patrick I miss TCL ...

Re: restricted hotel block

2019-12-12 Thread Owen DeLong
I believe this isn’t anything that the Hotel is doing… It’s NANOG giving members a two-week head start on the hotel block and not announcing it to non-members until the end of that two weeks so that members get first crack at rooms in the hotel block arranged for the conference. To the best of

DHS/CISA may get administrative subpoena authority for subscriber information

2019-12-12 Thread Sean Donelan
https://fcw.com/articles/2019/12/12/cisa-bill-new-authority-johnson.aspx The Cybersecurity Vulnerability Identification and Notification Act of 2019 would allow CISA to subpoena subscriber information for enterprise devices or systems [...] Subpoenas would be issued when the director of

Re: End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Owen DeLong
Fluke has some nice devices in this area. Owen > On Dec 12, 2019, at 06:53 , Fawcett, Nick via NANOG wrote: > > Anyone have any suggestions on devices that I can put at two points in the > network to test packet loss, latency, jitter etc. I was thinking of maybe > engineering my own using

Re: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS

2019-12-12 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Dec 11, 2019, at 09:26 , Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 19:14, Rob Foehl wrote: > >> Support claims that it was a mistake, but it's also been 15+ months and >> it's pretty deliberate behavior. Draw your own conclusions... > > TTL decrement issues are fairly common across

Re: Facebook's Middle Mile Infrastructure

2019-12-12 Thread Rod Beck
Can someone provide a link? I would like to learn more about it. Regards, Roderick. From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:57 PM To: Drew Weaver Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Facebook's Middle Mile Infrastructure I

FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

2019-12-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Monday, U.S. FCC Chairman Pai and Canadian CRTC Chairperson Scott made the first official cross-border SHAKEN/STIR call. https://www.fcc.gov/document/pai-scott-make-first-official-cross-border-shakenstir-call Today, the U.S. FCC announced a proposed nearly $10 million fine for spoofed

Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them?

2019-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you share the contact information for the next person that runs into this problem? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 2:01 PM Drew Weaver wrote: > We’ve had success contacting Hulu and having them mark the

RE: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them?

2019-12-12 Thread Drew Weaver
We’ve had success contacting Hulu and having them mark the tiny range of applicable IPs as not being “cloud”. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Eric Fulton Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 2:37 PM To: Mark Tinka Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how

Re: Facebook's Middle Mile Infrastructure

2019-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I love it... FB: Let's tell the presses about all the great things to help improve the regional Internet. ISPs: let's talk. FB: ... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Drew Weaver"

Facebook's Middle Mile Infrastructure

2019-12-12 Thread Drew Weaver
Does anyone have any contacts at Facebook that are working on their Middle Mile infrastructure project? All attempts to figure out whom to talk to in that regard have been met with failure. Thanks, -Drew

Re: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS

2019-12-12 Thread Peter Beckman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019, Javier J wrote: If you have static addressing (biz account) then possibly different from what I have. In North NJ, 3 different accounts I can verify have ICMP blocked as of sometime earlier this year or late last year so have to use udp to get a real traceroute. Could not

Re: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS

2019-12-12 Thread Javier J
> what do you do with a traceroute that looks like this Tell you to not change IP addresses so that I can do a proper analysis on it? Recommend you use something other than windows? Give you a stock tip? The possibilities are endless. (I'm being sarcastic) It is shitty and I have no clue why

Re: End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Yan Filyurin
I had relatively little experience, but this may fit the requirement. https://www.rad.com/products/Pluggable-PNFs-SFPs/MiNID-Ethernet-Demarcation-SFP There two other vendors that make something similar. Also

Re: End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Dovid Bender
Are you looking to see what happens if latency is added? Have a look at https://iwl.com/products-solutions/products/maxwell-pro On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM Fawcett, Nick via NANOG wrote: > Anyone have any suggestions on devices that I can put at two points in the > network to test packet

Re: End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Dan White
We've used Accedian MetroNIDs to do this. On 12/12/19 14:53 +, Fawcett, Nick via NANOG wrote: Anyone have any suggestions on devices that I can put at two points in the network to test packet loss, latency, jitter etc. I was thinking of maybe engineering my own using a couple of pi's,

End to End testing

2019-12-12 Thread Fawcett, Nick via NANOG
Anyone have any suggestions on devices that I can put at two points in the network to test packet loss, latency, jitter etc. I was thinking of maybe engineering my own using a couple of pi's, but the downfall is they don't have SFP ports. I'm looking for something that's portable and easy to

RE: Short-circuited traceroutes on FIOS

2019-12-12 Thread Aaron Gould
Yeah, and what do you do with a traceroute that looks like this…. (ip address intentionally changed) C:\>tracert -d -w 1 1.2.3.4 Tracing route to 1.2.3.4 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 8 ms 5 ms 5 ms 96.8.191.129 2 *** Request timed out. 3