Re: Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ

[Mehmet Akcin]

Visit https://live.infrapedia.com will show you several options

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 13:18 Kaiser, Erich  wrote:

> I would take a look at Windstream I believe they have a route that goes
> more south.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
> er...@gotfusion.net
> Office: 815-570-3101
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:36 PM Josh Niec 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Nanog,
>>
>>
>>
>> Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service
>> between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of
>> the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread
>> Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a
>> second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data
>> centers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from
>> the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by
>> CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a
>> completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been
>> dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they
>> wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the
>> circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Niec
>>
>> Senior Network Engineer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 19 N Sangamon St.
>> 
>> Chicago, IL 60607
>> 
>> 855.468.2789
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>> --
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+1-424-298-1903

Re: Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ

[Kaiser, Erich]

I would take a look at Windstream I believe they have a route that goes
more south.


Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net
Office: 815-570-3101



On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:36 PM Josh Niec  wrote:

> Hey Nanog,
>
>
>
> Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service
> between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of
> the state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread
> Networks low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a
> second that is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data
> centers.
>
>
>
> Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from
> the Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by
> CCF. I want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an
> option.
>
>
>
> I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a
> completely diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been
> dragging me through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they
> wanted me to sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the
> circuit, with no guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap).
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Josh Niec
>
> Senior Network Engineer
>
>
>
>
> 
> 19 N Sangamon St.
> Chicago, IL 60607
> 855.468.2789
> *TASTYWORKS IS HERE!! *Have you heard about tastyworks yet?
> *CLICK HERE * to be notified of updates
> regarding our new brokerage firm.
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>

Re: Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ

[Mike Hammett]

Crown doesn't have their own intercity fiber from Chicago, so they must be 
riding on someone's IRU. 

I was going to recommend looking at the carrier list for CyrusOne - Aurora. 
While obviously not where you're wanting to go, it would provide you with a 
list of carriers that cater to that space and you could start on that list. 
Unfortunately, they don't provide that on their site anymore. 


I assume that since you're on at least part of Spread Networks that latency is 
of at least some interest. 


I do find it odd that CenturyLink\Level 3 couldn't provide path diversity. 
Maybe not being completely on the Spread path the whole way cuts down your 
options. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Niec"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:45:25 PM 
Subject: Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ 



Hey Nanog, 

Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service 
between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the 
state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks 
low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that 
is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers. 

Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the 
Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I 
want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option. 

I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely 
diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me 
through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to 
sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no 
guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap). 

Thanks, 

Josh Niec 
Senior Network Engineer 






19 N Sangamon St. 
Chicago, IL 60607 
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Provider Suggestions for Diverse 10g Wave CHI-NJ

[Josh Niec]

Hey Nanog,

Could anyone suggest providers for a diverse/alternative 10g wave service 
between Equinix in Chicago and Equinix in New Jersey (northeastern part of the 
state)? Currently we have a 10g wave service via the infamous Spread Networks 
low-latency path between the two locations, but are looking for a second that 
is completely diverse with no overlaps between the two data centers.

Our current provider is Crown Castle Fiber, and half of the segment, from the 
Ohio area to New Jersey, is leased from Zayo (who purchased Spread) by CCF. I 
want diverse carriers for this other path, so Zayo/CCF are not an option.

I’ve checked with CenturyLink/Level3 who are unable to provide a completely 
diverse path. I have also reached out to Verizon who have been dragging me 
through a 3 month+ long process with no proposals so far (they wanted me to 
sign the contract before showing me the actual route of the circuit, with no 
guarantee that it wouldn’t overlap).

Thanks,

Josh Niec
Senior Network Engineer


-- 


 19 N Sangamon St.
Chicago, IL 60607

855.468.2789
*TASTYWORKS IS HERE!! *Have you heard about tastyworks yet?

_*CLICK HERE *_ to be notified of updates 
regarding our new brokerage firm.__
Thank you for your 
communication to 
tastytrade.  To enhance your tastytrade experience, our
 on-air hosts 
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email.  
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 are 
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person’s individual circumstances.  If you ask us how to implement a
 
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 you as 
part of our educational process.  Our responses do not 
constitute trading 
or investment advice or recommendations.  You are 
responsible for making 
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that tastytrade uses as 
examples may not be suitable for you.  
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adviser or a registered 
broker-dealer.

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[Dan Spitler]

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Fwd: A survey on performance diagnosis for Network functions/middleboxes

[Yu, Minlan]

We are still in need of more responses to the survey. You help is much
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-- Forwarded message -
From: Yu, Minlan 
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM
Subject: A survey on performance diagnosis for Network functions/middleboxes
To: 
Cc: Junzhi Gong 


Dear Nanog community,

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hardware middleboxes and software network functions. The performance of
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However, when performance problems happen, it often takes a lot of human
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We are a group of researchers from Harvard and AT&T who are building new
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We're reaching out to the NANOG community to understand the performance
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Re: Carriers

[WILLIAM E JENSEN via NANOG]

There are several parties in that building. Perhaps Peering DB will 
yield you useful starting points:

https://www.peeringdb.com/ix/89

-- 
Bill Jensen, Network Engineer
UW-Madison DoIT Network Services
Rm B116 CSSC, 1210 W. Dayton St., Madison, WI  53706


On 1/22/20 9:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Maybe those with their own glass, but they wouldn't know anything 
> about anyone coming in on IRUs.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> *From: *"Daniel Corbe" 
> *To: *"Rod Beck" 
> *Cc: *Nanog@nanog.org
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:30:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Carriers
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Rod Beck 
>  > wrote:
>
> Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal
> is there. Anyone else?
>
> 222 West Washington Ave, Madison.
>
> Surely the landlord would have a list of carriers providing service 
> into the property.
>

Re: Carriers

[Rod Beck]

I tend to agree. Looks at least on the surface useful.

Regards,

Roderick.


From: NANOG  on behalf of Mick O'Donovan 

Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: Carriers

Great resource Mehmit,

Many thanks for sharing.

Mick

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 05:29:19PM -1000, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> live.infrapedia.com shows various options
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 16:47 Brandon Svec 
> wrote:
>
> > I have a tool that tells me this at that address:
> >
> > *ACC Business*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *TPx*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *CenturyLink*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Windstream*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Spectrum Business*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *AT&T*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *CenturyLink*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *TPx*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *ACC Business*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Security Made Simple with Cisco Meraki: *http://bit.ly/MerakiSecure
> >
> > *Brandon Svec*
> > CA C-7 Lic. #822064
> > 
> > .ılı.ılı. Cisco Meraki CMNA
> >
> > *15106862204 <15106862204> voice | sms**teamonesolutions.com
> > *
> >
> >
> > *14729 Catalina St. San Leandro, CA 94577
> > *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Rod Beck 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is
> >> there. Anyone else?
> >>
> >> 222 West Washington Ave, Madison
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >> Roderick Beck
> >> VP of Business Development
> >>
> >> United Cable Company
> >>
> >> www.unitedcablecompany.com
> >>
> >> New York City & Budapest
> >>
> >> rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
> >>
> >> 36-70-605-5144
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: 1467221477350_image005.png]
> >>
> > --
> Mehmet
> +1-424-298-1903

Re: Carriers

[Rod Beck]

Availability of dark fiber is limited. Pretty much limited to lit transport. 
Neither Zayo nor Crown Castle have metro networks.

Regards,

Roderick.


From: Neader, Brent 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 4:10 PM
To: Rod Beck 
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org' 
Subject: RE: Carriers


5nines is in that building, they list available carriers on their spec sheet, 
it is a pretty respectable selection.  Unsure of how the MMR or cross connects 
work in building though.



https://datacenter.5nines.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/62/2019/10/5NINES-Data-Center-PDF.pdf







From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:02 AM
To: Daniel Corbe 
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: EXT_Re: Carriers



Maybe those with their own glass, but they wouldn't know anything about anyone 
coming in on IRUs.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com





From: "Daniel Corbe" mailto:dan...@corbe.net>>
To: "Rod Beck" 
mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>>
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:30:00 PM
Subject: Re: Carriers





On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Rod Beck 
mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote:

Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is there. 
Anyone else?



222 West Washington Ave, Madison.



Surely the landlord would have a list of carriers providing service into the 
property.

Re: Carriers

[Jay Hanke]

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:12 AM Neader, Brent
 wrote:
>
> 5nines is in that building, they list available carriers on their spec sheet, 
> it is a pretty respectable selection.  Unsure of how the MMR or cross 
> connects work in building though.
>

It's a semi free for all. You'll want to get into the suite where most
of your connections are located.

RE: Carriers

[Neader, Brent]

5nines is in that building, they list available carriers on their spec sheet, 
it is a pretty respectable selection.  Unsure of how the MMR or cross connects 
work in building though.

https://datacenter.5nines.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/62/2019/10/5NINES-Data-Center-PDF.pdf



From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:02 AM
To: Daniel Corbe 
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: EXT_Re: Carriers

Maybe those with their own glass, but they wouldn't know anything about anyone 
coming in on IRUs.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com


From: "Daniel Corbe" mailto:dan...@corbe.net>>
To: "Rod Beck" 
mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>>
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:30:00 PM
Subject: Re: Carriers


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Rod Beck 
mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote:
Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is there. 
Anyone else?

222 West Washington Ave, Madison.

Surely the landlord would have a list of carriers providing service into the 
property.

Re: Carriers

[Mike Hammett]

Maybe those with their own glass, but they wouldn't know anything about anyone 
coming in on IRUs. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Daniel Corbe"  
To: "Rod Beck"  
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:30:00 PM 
Subject: Re: Carriers 






On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Rod Beck < rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com > 
wrote: 




Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is there. 
Anyone else? 



222 West Washington Ave, Madison. 



Surely the landlord would have a list of carriers providing service into the 
property. 

Re: Carriers

[Daniel Corbe]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:47 PM Rod Beck 
wrote:

> Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is
> there. Anyone else?
>
> 222 West Washington Ave, Madison.
>

Surely the landlord would have a list of carriers providing service into
the property.

Re: Carriers

[Mick O'Donovan]

Great resource Mehmit,

Many thanks for sharing.

Mick

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 05:29:19PM -1000, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> live.infrapedia.com shows various options
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 16:47 Brandon Svec 
> wrote:
> 
> > I have a tool that tells me this at that address:
> >
> > *ACC Business*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *TPx*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *CenturyLink*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Windstream*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Spectrum Business*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *AT&T*
> > Distance:On-Net
> > 222 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *CenturyLink*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *TPx*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *ACC Business*
> > Distance: 37 feet
> > 244 W WASHINGTON AVE
> > 
> > *Security Made Simple with Cisco Meraki: *http://bit.ly/MerakiSecure
> >
> > *Brandon Svec*
> > CA C-7 Lic. #822064
> > 
> > .ılı.ılı. Cisco Meraki CMNA
> >
> > *15106862204 <15106862204> voice | sms**teamonesolutions.com
> > *
> >
> >
> > *14729 Catalina St. San Leandro, CA 94577
> > *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Rod Beck 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know who are the providers in this building? US Signal is
> >> there. Anyone else?
> >>
> >> 222 West Washington Ave, Madison
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >> Roderick Beck
> >> VP of Business Development
> >>
> >> United Cable Company
> >>
> >> www.unitedcablecompany.com
> >>
> >> New York City & Budapest
> >>
> >> rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com
> >>
> >> 36-70-605-5144
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: 1467221477350_image005.png]
> >>
> > --
> Mehmet
> +1-424-298-1903