Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

kauer> When *I* were a lad we had to touch the wires with our tongues to kauer> tell one from zero, no job for a sissy lemme tell you. Wires? You had wires? We had to cut out our own intestines, braid them into strands and dip them in salt water to make them conductive. Our bosses would feed us a

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 22:29 -0600, Aaron Gould wrote: > From: Ben Cannon [mailto:b...@6by7.net]  > I started what became 6x7 with a 64k ISDN line.   And 9600 baud > modems…    Pah! Luxury! When *I* were a lad we had to touch the wires with our tongues to tell one from zero, no job for a sissy lem

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

IIRC that 64k was in fact 56k with 8k for overhead. I had one, and it would kick in a second channel if you pushed it, for a whopping 112k. Metered, came out to about $500/mo. Joly On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ben Cannon wrote: > I started what became 6x7 with a 64k ISDN line. And 9600 ba

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

I mean I blame it on the inadequate capacity of Windstream to handle modern TCP traffic loads - but hey. You know. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Jan 25, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > > Shouldn't game patches like this

RE: Dual Homed BGP

I’m listening to the advice of others and taking it in…. For my ISP, I’ve had 2 or 3 internet uplinks for about 12 years now for 50,000 subs, and have only learned a default route on them. It’s been good up to this point. -Aaron

RE: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

I love the symmetric ~10 gig speed test to put it into perspective for how far we’ve come….also the 3 ms ping result. Ain’t it great -Aaron From: Ben Cannon [mailto:b...@6by7.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 5:27 PM To: b...@theworld.com Cc: Aaron Gould; NANOG Operators' Group Subject

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

Xbox One has 2 options, always one (equivalent to windows sleep) and will wake up occasionally for updates, and power save (equivalent to hibernate ish) it will not wake up for updates. Brandon Jackson bojack1...@gmail.com 478-387-8687 On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 21:51 Mike Hammett wrote: > IIRC, ga

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

IIRC, game consoles are always on, whether they're "on" or not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Tom Beecher" To: "Darin Steffl" Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, Ja

Re: Data on latency and loss-rates during congestion DDoS attacks

Hi Damian, thanks, that's right; actually in high-latency and 10% loss, you get _much_ better performance than either TCP or Quic. However, these are not as common scenarios as clogging due to DDoS... So we still want to find relevant data, to know which ranges of latency and loss make sense. Guys

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

Not everybody leaves their console/PC on 24/7 so that they would pull the patch at 3am local even if that’s when it was released. It’s far from reckless. It’s not the game companies job to make sure the network works. That’s our job. On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 14:37 Darin Steffl wrote: > Shouldn't

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

That’s what she said -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Jan 25, 2020, at 13:42, Alistair Mackenzie wrote: > >  > Off-peak hours are on-peak somewhere else in the world. > >> On Sat, Jan

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

Off-peak hours are on-peak somewhere else in the world. On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:37 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Shouldn't game patches like this be released overnight during off-peak > hours? Fortnite releases their updates around 3 or 4am when most ISP's > networks are at their lowest utilization

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

Shouldn't game patches like this be released overnight during off-peak hours? Fortnite releases their updates around 3 or 4am when most ISP's networks are at their lowest utilization. It seems somewhat reckless to release such a large patch during awake hours. On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 12:08 PM Brando

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare fragged our business VOIP: US ISP blames outage on smash-hit video game rush This is Windstream, going dark..." https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/23/windstream_fvoip_outage/ Apparently not everyone came out unscathed. -- Brandon Ja

Re: Data on latency and loss-rates during congestion DDoS attacks

Getting (and releasing) numbers from DDoS attacks will be challenging for most, but I think your research could apply to more than just DDoS. There are often cases where one might want to work from an environment which has very poor networking. As an extreme example, in 2007 I got online from an

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that (now old guy stuff)

On Jan 25, 2020, at 08:52, Paul Nash wrote: > >  >> >> So, I grew up in South Africa, and one of the more fascinating / >> cooler things I saw was a modem which would get you ~50bps (bps, not >> Kbps) over a single strand of barbed wire -- you'd hammer a largish >> nail into the ground, and cli

Re: Dual Homed BGP

lør. 25. jan. 2020 13.42 skrev Tore Anderson : > * Baldur Norddahl > > > If you join any peering exchanges, full tables will be mandatory. Some > parties will export prefixes and then expect a more specific prefix > received from your transit to override a part of the space received via the > peer

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

> So, I grew up in South Africa, and one of the more fascinating / > cooler things I saw was a modem which would get you ~50bps (bps, not > Kbps) over a single strand of barbed wire -- you'd hammer a largish > nail into the ground, and clip one alligator[0] clip onto that, and > another alligator c

Re: Dual Homed BGP

* Baldur Norddahl > If you join any peering exchanges, full tables will be mandatory. Some > parties will export prefixes and then expect a more specific prefix received > from your transit to override a part of the space received via the peering. That would be a fundamentally flawed expectati

Re: Rogue objects in routing databases

Hi Martijn, albeit a negligible amount of edge cases it can indeed be stated that there is too much trust put into alternative IRR sources operated by third partys not affiliated to RIRs. Generally, usage of such databases however is not mis-used in a larger scope, and the complexity involved with

Re: Data on latency and loss-rates during congestion DDoS attacks

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:12 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 05:30, Amir Herzberg wrote: > > DDoS is very very cheap, if there is a single global egress for given > interface then the DDoS traffic can easily be 100 times the egress > capacity (1GE egress, 100GE DDoS). Thanks. Howe

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

Valdis Klētnieks wrote on 24/01/2020 21:20: I remember when a "gateway" was a Microvax II with an ethernet card and a bisync card I remember the day when the microvax II and all the other vaxes on campus were upgraded from CMU-TEK to the Multinet TCP/IP stack. Gone were the days of maxing ou