Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Mar/20 18:16, Mike Bolitho wrote: > Basically that. It's probably more streaming services that could crowd > out what would be considered "mission critical" infrastructure. Maybe > the Netflixs and Hulus of the world will limit 4K streaming or > something along those lines. Basically cap

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Adam Kennedy via NANOG
We've been using BookStack. It's easy for staff to use and understand. We gave each department their own "shelf" in there and can assign rights to shelves so managers of the departments can add their own books/chapters/pages. Once you dive in you'll see how it's organized but it's a really solid

RE: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-14 Thread John van Oppen
We are seeing the peak spread out… we carry mostly pacific northwest residential networks… we are also seeing new, slightly higher evening peaks. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Rishi Singh Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:25 AM To: Jared Mauch Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: AT is suspending

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
I don't recommend filtering the SYN-ACK packets. That's what Octolus did, and the result was leaving half-open SYN_RECV connections on all the nodes used for reflection. That has two downsides: - the reflectors will retry the SYN-ACK (several times), which increases your PPS load (amplifying

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread nanog08
I've been using MoinMoin wiki for years.  It hasn't been updated for quite a while, but it has worked really well for me, is trivial to install, uses text file backend so no need for a database, allows for hierarchical structure, is pretty fast, is very very light weight and extensible, built

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 14/03/2020 à 22:17, b...@theworld.com a écrit : On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > charged, get that way.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 05:17:01PM -0400, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > >

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread bzs
On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > charged, get that way. You're really expecting power interruptions due to the virus

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Gavin Henry
I think DokuWiki does this and as an added bonus saves all as text files.

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG
Hi Bill, thanks for sharing the data. Indeed, I can't offer you a way to backtrack the spoofed packets. Anyway, I'm not sure what could you do legally as there is a very high chance that these people are not in the USA and the CFAA won't apply to them. Here is what I would do if I was in

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
there is one more thing about this now it is a good time to start writing down daily whether you work at home or not, who do you see, etc. it's always hard to remember what one did 2 weeks ago, who one saw, etc. in two weeks time, if you are still feeling excellent, then you might be really

Re: AT is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-14 Thread Rishi Singh
Curious if anyone here (especially at CenturyLink / AT/ Comcast) has seen any graphs of network traffic over time and could share details (redacted of course due to the sensitivity). Would love to hear if/how capacity is constrained with more people working form home. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:36

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Meenoo Shivdasani
Trac — http://trac.edgewall.org Extensible, integrates with subversion (and other code repos), relatively easy to install, maintain and use. M Sent via iDevice. From: NANOG on behalf of Craig Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 8:07:52 AM To: nanog group Subject:

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:51 PM Mike Bolitho wrote: > I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the > online based games shutting services down. > Next you'll have us actually reading books! -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

RE: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Adam Thompson
[Disclaimer: former Atlassian Reseller and Certified Confluence Administrator here.] Atlassian Confluence. It’s not cheap, and it certainly has its flaws, but it incorporates one feature that most (all?) other wikis don’t – hierarchy. You can organize information (pages) hierarchically like a

sflow -> aggregated aspath visualization?

2020-03-14 Thread Adam Thompson
I’m looking for product recommendations: We’ve noticed that about 20% of our traffic here lately has decamped from the free (or, at least, flat-rate) connection to CANARIE (our R network) and its various connected content-delivery networks, and onto our commercial provider. While this is

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 14/03/2020 à 19:49, Rich Kulawiec a écrit : On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion issues. This is a tiny sample of what's coming. YES and it's in waves. It's emergency, but not like in war

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Thanks Rich. Good, clear, reasonable steps to have on hand. On Sat., Mar. 14, 2020, 11:50 Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: > > Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion > > issues. > > This is a tiny sample of

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
I don't want to get in a fight, but absolutely: Folks saw congestion from a massive free content drop this past week. But as folks had called out, that was the CDN angle of distributing that content rather than the actual game play. There is a rather long discussion about that in the "akamai

WFH: Measuring and fixing latency congestion and slow problems

2020-03-14 Thread Sean Donelan
Trying to put together a one-pager to help I.T. people at organizations with a surge of work from home users. First, I get that ISPs customer care centers and network operation centers are trying their best. And may be having their own staffing issues. Snow days and hurricanes aren't

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
The access facility and the underlying long haul are telecommunications services. The application provided using that facility may or may not be. The congestion you were experiencing was not with the telecommunications facility itself, but with the application running on it, and was as

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: > Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion > issues. This is a tiny sample of what's coming. We're all about to be tested in a major way, and lots of latent problems are about to become real, pressing

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
First of all, we use a mixture of layer 2/3 private lines and DIA circuits. You don't know our infrastructure, stop being condescending. It goes against the spirit of this mailing list. Second, yes, the Internet is protected. Both public and private lines. I know this because we have TSP coded

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Anurag Bhatia
+1 for Dokuwiki as well as Gitlab. I personally like Gitlab but fact that wiki is on per project basis. It is easy to use Dokuwiki as a general purpose, project independent wiki. On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:20 PM Ray Orsini wrote: > Confluence is good for small teams. Self-hosted is $10r. Plus

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
The Internet is not a telecommunications service, according to your FCC. If you want predictability, buy WAN circuits, not Internet circuits. If your provider is co-mingling Internet and WAN traffic (i.e. circuits with defined endpoints vs. public Internet or VPN), then you need to

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
> > *Seems arbitrary. Lots of networks have lots of Netflix/etc capacity. > Who determines what is "mission critical"? Our mission as an ISP is to > deliver Internet to our customers. If they want to play online games or > watch video, who am I to say that isn't critical to THEIR mission?...*

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
Seems arbitrary. Lots of networks have lots of Netflix/etc capacity. Who determines what is "mission critical"? Our mission as an ISP is to deliver Internet to our customers. If they want to play online games or watch video, who am I to say that isn't critical to THEIR mission? The

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
Basically that. It's probably more streaming services that could crowd out what would be considered "mission critical" infrastructure. Maybe the Netflixs and Hulus of the world will limit 4K streaming or something along those lines. Basically cap resolution to 720p for the time being. - Mike

RE: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Ray Orsini
Confluence is good for small teams. Self-hosted is $10r. Plus addons we end up around $150/yr. Unfortunately, we outgrew it in terms of users. Additional users are way too expensive. [OIT Website] Ray Orsini​ Chief Executive Officer OIT, LLC

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 4:02 AM Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG wrote: > can you post some forged packets please? You can send them offlist if > you prefer. Hi Jean, Here are a couple examples (PDT this morning): 08:22:43.413250 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 55, id 10108, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
Transit providers can check their netflow and to identify the true source. Know any good mailing lists where transit providers hang out? If you can share the victim IP and a timestamp, I may be able to offer additional advice off-list. Damian On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:24 PM William Herrin

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Craig
Lol, Sharepoint,,,. Arggg, yea NOT going to happen , We’ve managed to avoid using that. On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:50 AM Nicholas Oas wrote: > Seconding Confluence. Stay away from Sharepoint. > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:09 AM Craig wrote: > >> Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Blake Hudson
It's not complete, but if you're receiving the ICMP net/port unreachable backscatter it should include a portion of the original packet. This might provide some insight into the TTL left on TCP the packet when it reached its destination which could provide a rough radius that you would need to

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 7:05 AM, Brielle wrote: > I personally like Dokuwiki a lot. Dokuwiki is definitely my favorite as well. The UI is appropriate to the task, so you get work done quickly and without a lot of fuss. -Bill signature.asc Description:

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Brielle
I personally like Dokuwiki a lot. From a usability standpoint, once you spend a few learning the interface, it’s very simplistic and not overwhelming in features. You can always add extensions for stuff you need that isn’t there out of box. From a technical standpoint, it doesn’t need a

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Karl Auer
On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 08:07 -0400, Craig wrote: > Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are using to save > documentation to / > how to's for staff, etc. Like any other software, make a set of requirements and then go looking. The order of those two steps is important, though you're allowed to

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Gavin Henry
DokuWiki, redmine wiki, GitLab wiki parts.

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Josh Baird
Confluence. On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:09 AM Craig wrote: > Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are using to save documentation to > / how to's for staff, etc. > > pro's > con's > > We have an older wiki bare-metal wiki server, that I want to get replaced > before it kicks the bucket and was

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Craig
Somewhat of a duplicate reply here to another thread... We have noticed as the organization has been sending various teams to WFH, an increase in bandwidth to our various VPN services. It's been creeping up daily. we are in process of upgrading our bandwidth to these areas to support this. On

Re: Work from Home and other dynamics

2020-03-14 Thread Craig
We have noticed as the organization has been sending various teams to WFH, an increase in bandwidth to our various VPN services. It's been creeping up daily. we are in process of upgrading our bandwidth to these areas to support this. we are finding support teams are taking steps to finally fix

WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-14 Thread Craig
Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are using to save documentation to / how to's for staff, etc. pro's con's We have an older wiki bare-metal wiki server, that I want to get replaced before it kicks the bucket and was looking into various ones. thanks; CPV

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread nanog
This is the issue (and the leitmotiv) of forged packets: you cannot trace their origin in real world situation On 3/14/20 12:03 PM, Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG wrote: > Hi Bill, > > can you post some forged packets please? You can send them offlist if > you prefer. > > It seems to be similar

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 08:26, William Herrin wrote: > Can anyone suggest tools, techniques and helpful contacts for > backtracking spoofed packets? At the moment someone is forging TCP > syns from my address block. I'm getting the syn/ack and icmp > unreachable backscatter. Enough that my

Re: backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG
Hi Bill, can you post some forged packets please? You can send them offlist if you prefer. It seems to be similar to what Octopus experience few weeks ago on this list. Thanks Jean St-Laurent | CISSP #634103

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, at 04:31, Darin Steffl wrote: > Playing games doesn't take much bandwidth. Downloading games does. So > as long as everyone already has their games and there's no updates, > playing the game is typically under 100 kbps which is negligible > compared to streaming video

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
> The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall). People are welcome to

backtracking forged packets?

2020-03-14 Thread William Herrin
Howdy, Can anyone suggest tools, techniques and helpful contacts for backtracking spoofed packets? At the moment someone is forging TCP syns from my address block. I'm getting the syn/ack and icmp unreachable backscatter. Enough that my service provider briefly classified it a DDOS. I'd love to