RE: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls
Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller ID spoofing, just how does one prove who called? Will the telephone company simply hand over detailed transport records or the hidden Caller ID information? I don't care about making money or imposition of government fines; I just want the calls to cease. mb Writing on behalf of myself and not any organization or employer. Please remove me from your mailing and contact lists. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls > On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Matthew Black wrote: > >> Has anyone else noticed a steep decline in annoying phone calls since the >> FCC threatened legal action against three major VOIP gateways if they didn’t >> make efforts to prevent >> Caller ID spoofing from scammers? > > Not that it's at all on-topic for NANOG, but no. I still get numerous "last > chance to renew my car warranty" and whatever the scam is from the credit > card callers per day on both my home and cell numbers. Well, while we are already engaged in the thread, some of you may be interested to know (especially if you find yourself with time on your hands these days), that you *can* actually get money from these scum. In fact, it turns out that they cave pretty easily because they *know* they are violating the law, and they *know* what the penalties are. In fact, we wrote up how to do it (link below) and I *know* that it works because I just got myself $1000 out of a text message spammer! So, harass those phone spammers for fun *and* profit! ;-) Here's the write-up I did, feel free to ask me any questions you may have. :-) https://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-shake-down-robocallers-and-robotexters-for-fun-and-profit/ Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Matthew Black wrote: > >> Has anyone else noticed a steep decline in annoying phone calls since the >> FCC threatened legal action against three major VOIP gateways if they didn’t >> make efforts to prevent >> Caller ID spoofing from scammers? > > Not that it's at all on-topic for NANOG, but no. I still get numerous "last > chance to renew my car warranty" and whatever the scam is from the credit > card callers per day on both my home and cell numbers. Well, while we are already engaged in the thread, some of you may be interested to know (especially if you find yourself with time on your hands these days), that you *can* actually get money from these scum. In fact, it turns out that they cave pretty easily because they *know* they are violating the law, and they *know* what the penalties are. In fact, we wrote up how to do it (link below) and I *know* that it works because I just got myself $1000 out of a text message spammer! So, harass those phone spammers for fun *and* profit! ;-) Here's the write-up I did, feel free to ask me any questions you may have. :-) https://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-shake-down-robocallers-and-robotexters-for-fun-and-profit/ Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls
No different than any other network abuse mechanism and regulatory and legislative measures meant to control it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jon Lewis" To: "Matthew Black" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:36:28 PM Subject: Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Matthew Black wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed a steep decline in annoying phone calls since the FCC > threatened legal action against three major VOIP gateways if they didn’t make > efforts to prevent > Caller ID spoofing from scammers? Not that it's at all on-topic for NANOG, but no. I still get numerous "last chance to renew my car warranty" and whatever the scam is from the credit card callers per day on both my home and cell numbers. -- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route StackPath, Sr. Neteng | therefore you are _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
