Paid abuse desks idea? Was: Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle

[Denys Fedoryshchenko]

On 2020-05-03 01:10, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:

There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on
her Instagram account.  Need to get this in front of the right people
to have her traced and shut down.

Please let me know if you can provide a contact for either org.

Anne

---
Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
Advisor, Colorado Innovation Response Team Task Force
CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification
Policy Drafting and Review for Businesses
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam 
law)
Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance 
Consultant

Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
Location: Boulder, Colorado


Many times I came across the fact that large content operators do not 
have adequate support.
I understand that increasing the support is not reasonable, its too 
expensive.
Why they don't make a separate "route" with payment and a list of urgent 
complaints criteria,

where the complainant pays a deposit of say $ 100-$200/hr,
and if he writes nonsense or not urgent case, qualified for free 
support, he simply loses money

and pays the operator for the time spent.

If case qualifies for urgent support, the money is returned to person 
seeking support.

But how things are going on now, it is totally wrong.
Large content networks are turning into trash bin and a hotbed of crime 
due to the inability to

quickly control illegal content.

I wouldn’t refuse such $100 option for ISP, if someone wants to send me 
complaints about torrents for $100,

i don’t mind looking at it carefully for compliance with local law.
And at the same time I could respond more quickly to complaints on DDOS 
and SPAM, hire dedicated staff, its for good

too. Also he can handle additionally regular abuse complaints channels.

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Nick Edwards]

Thanks, I know the vega marketing says 7 kilometers, I've used them
before at 4 kilometers with at 4REN,  I agree the grandstreams are
cheap and as someone pointed out not very good for line length, I
planned to get my hands on one and test it at furthest location, the
Versa dslams (which are re badged planet's) are running from a private
reply I got  run up to at least 3.5 miles with speeds averaging 16mpbs
down and 1 up, so cheaper gear sounds ok, and my understanding of the
dslams a child can enable it, its very user friendly and I've used
both types of gateways before and both are easy 3 minute setups.

I dont envision huaweis or nokias being 3 step user friendly :)


On 5/2/20, Tarko Tikan  wrote:
> hey,
>
>> But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
>> a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
>> cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
>> an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
>> of individual gateways.
>
> Huawei was already suggested and Nokia ISAM also works very well for
> your application
>
> https://www.nokia.com/networks/products/intelligent-services-access-manager-isam-voice/#overview
>
> Majority of the small consumer gateways (including the 48p ones) will
> not work on long loops, they are ment to be used inside a building etc.
>
>
> --
> tarko
>

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Nick Edwards]

The huts or cabins whatever you want to call them,  are right behind
the admin building at entrance, so first is about 300 meters and the
furtherest  is just under 1 mile

Cost will be an issue, Im sure I will have no problems if I have to
install a full rack of gateways and another full of dslams if it costs
150K, over something 1/5th the size in one rack that will cost 200k -
since the company is not charging them for internet or voice.

On 5/2/20, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
> What’s the average loop length? Grandstream is probably OK to 5+ kfeet but
> you will lose CID before that.
>
> As the low cost option don’t expect them to be trouble-free (or have
> particularly good vendor support), but they might work in your application
> if cheap is what makes sense.
>
> My $.02
>
> Jeremy Austin
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:11 PM Andrey Slastenov 
> wrote:
>
>> Look at MSAN solution. Like Huawei UA5000 or similar solutions from other
>> vendors.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrey
>>
>> > 2 мая 2020 г., в 07:21, Nick Edwards 
>> написал(а):
>> >
>> > I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote
>> > village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go
>> > nowhere past the MDF.
>> >
>> > The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers
>> > because the  AKA previous owners of that
>> > business  stopped the build when they ran into financial problems.
>> >
>> > So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper pairs.
>> >
>> > I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass
>> > through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare
>> > R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this
>> > works.
>> >
>> > OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere
>> > that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream
>> > 48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so
>> > theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used
>> > because they are more than twice the price of grandstream.
>> >
>> > But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
>> > a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
>> > cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
>> > an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
>> > of individual gateways.
>> >
>> > This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on
>> > a large scale.
>> > Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method
>> > acceptable or not for such a project size?
>> >
>> > most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where
>> > gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all
>> > our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the
>> > beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats
>> > not a problem if we go down the gateway method.
>> >
>> > thoughts?
>>
> --
> Jeremy Austin
> jhaus...@gmail.com
>

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Nick Edwards]

Thank you, will do, but I am to assume that this MSAN devices combine
the dslam and voice, like the gateway and dslam all in one? That we
point the dsl to the mikrotik asnd teh voice to our freepbx box?

I have zero experience with high end gear :)

On 5/2/20, Andrey Slastenov  wrote:
> Look at MSAN solution. Like Huawei UA5000 or similar solutions from other
> vendors.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrey
>
>> 2 мая 2020 г., в 07:21, Nick Edwards 
>> написал(а):
>>
>> I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote
>> village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go
>> nowhere past the MDF.
>>
>> The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers
>> because the  AKA previous owners of that
>> business  stopped the build when they ran into financial problems.
>>
>> So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper pairs.
>>
>> I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass
>> through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare
>> R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this
>> works.
>>
>> OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere
>> that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream
>> 48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so
>> theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used
>> because they are more than twice the price of grandstream.
>>
>> But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
>> a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
>> cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
>> an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
>> of individual gateways.
>>
>> This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on
>> a large scale.
>> Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method
>> acceptable or not for such a project size?
>>
>> most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where
>> gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all
>> our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the
>> beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats
>> not a problem if we go down the gateway method.
>>
>> thoughts?
>

Re: Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle

[cosmo]

A few thoughts :

Netflix has an excellent five-part documentary series called "Don't Fuck
WIth Cats" about someone who did this years ago, and then eventually
murdered a human on camera after many internet slueths trying to get law
enforcement to cooperate :
https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/luka-magnotta-dont-fuck-with-cats-netflix-true-crime-documentary-1345877

There is a subreddit with a large active community of people, who are now
currently discussing this exact perpetrator you mention :
https://www.reddit.com/r/DontFuckWithCats/

My initial inclination would be to track down the law enforcement people
involved in that prior investigation, if you can. Hope others can help.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:13 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. 
wrote:

> There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on her
> Instagram account.  Need to get this in front of the right people to have
> her traced and shut down.
>
> Please let me know if you can provide a contact for either org.
>
> Anne
>
> ---
> Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
> Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
> Advisor, Colorado Innovation Response Team Task Force
> CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification
> Policy Drafting and Review for Businesses
> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
> Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant
> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
> Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
> Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
> Location: Boulder, Colorado

Also Going on on TikTok (Re: Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle)

[Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.]

> On May 2, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on her 
> Instagram account.  Need to get this in front of the right people to have her 
> traced and shut down.
> 
> Please let me know if you can provide a contact for either org.
> 
> Anne
> 
> ---
> Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
> Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
> Advisor, Colorado Innovation Response Team Task Force
> CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification
> Policy Drafting and Review for Businesses
> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
> Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant
> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
> Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
> Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
> Location: Boulder, Colorado

Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle

[Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.]

There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on her 
Instagram account.  Need to get this in front of the right people to have her 
traced and shut down.

Please let me know if you can provide a contact for either org.

Anne

---
Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
Advisor, Colorado Innovation Response Team Task Force
CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification
Policy Drafting and Review for Businesses
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant
Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
Location: Boulder, Colorado

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Mike Hammett]

There's likely an enormous amount of ADSL\VDSL DSLAM blades and chassis out 
there that you can pick up for a song. Buy the ones that do POTS and DSL in 
one. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Nick Edwards"  
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:20:40 PM 
Subject: alternative to voip gateways 

I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote 
village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go 
nowhere past the MDF. 

The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers 
because the  AKA previous owners of that 
business stopped the build when they ran into financial problems. 

So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper pairs. 

I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass 
through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare 
R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this 
works. 

OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere 
that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream 
48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so 
theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used 
because they are more than twice the price of grandstream. 

But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not 
a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more 
cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have 
an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch 
of individual gateways. 

This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on 
a large scale. 
Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method 
acceptable or not for such a project size? 

most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where 
gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all 
our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the 
beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats 
not a problem if we go down the gateway method. 

thoughts? 

Fiber across SF Bay

[Ben Cannon]

Does anyone have recommendations for dark fiber or a full 432  across the SF 
bay bridge? 

-Ben

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Shawn L via NANOG]

Innomedia is decent as well, but again it all depends on loop lengths.
 
Might want to look at more of a carrier system.  Something like a Calix E7, E5 
or C7 line.  You could probably pick up a C7 chassis on the used market and 
fill it up with ADSL or VDSL cards that will push dial-tone at least 2x as far 
as they will push DSL.  At least in the 10 mile rage.  Although at some point, 
when you're out past DSL range things like old-school load coils will help with 
call quality.
 


-Original Message-
From: "Tarko Tikan" 
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:48am
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: alternative to voip gateways



hey,

> But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
> a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
> cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
> an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
> of individual gateways.

Huawei was already suggested and Nokia ISAM also works very well for 
your application

https://www.nokia.com/networks/products/intelligent-services-access-manager-isam-voice/#overview

Majority of the small consumer gateways (including the 48p ones) will 
not work on long loops, they are ment to be used inside a building etc.


-- 
tarko

Re: Huawei on Mount Everest

[Mark Rousell]

On 01/05/2020 19:13, Eric Tykwinski wrote:
> how the hell are they going to get power up there for dependability.
> Solar power sure is a great option, but I was under the assumption
> that repairs will be hell to put it bluntly.
> Batteries in that cold of a climate is also a regular trip. which
> doesn’t seem feasible, unless there’s something I don’t know.

RTG of course. :-)

To be thrown down a crevasse when it is finished with...

-- 
Mark Rousell

PGP public key: http://www.signal100.com/markr/pgp
Key ID: C9C5C162
 
 
 

RE: Huawei on Mount Everest

[Keith Medcalf]

Build a nuclear power plant of course.

--
The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a 
lot about anticipated traffic volume.

>-Original Message-
>From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Eric Tykwinski
>Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2020 12:14
>To: Aaron Gould 
>Cc: John Levine ; nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: Huawei on Mount Everest
>
>Honestly, being an amateur rock climber, I’m in the same boat, but how
>the hell are they going to get power up there for dependability.
>Solar power sure is a great option, but I was under the assumption that
>repairs will be hell to put it bluntly.
>Batteries in that cold of a climate is also a regular trip. which doesn’t
>seem feasible, unless there’s something I don’t know.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Eric Tykwinski
>TrueNet, Inc.
>P: 610-429-8300
>
>
>   On May 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Aaron Gould  > wrote:
>
>   You made me curious...
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_climbing_Mount
>_Everest
>
>   wow, I guess it would be great to be able to use cell/gps technology
>to communicate with and track a lost/endangered climber
>
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+aaron1=gvtc@nanog.org] On
>Behalf Of John Levine
>   Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 12:58 PM
>   To: nanog@nanog.org
>   Subject: Re: Huawei on Mount Everest
>
>   In article
> you
>write:
>
>
>   -=-=-=-=-=-
>
>   https://telecoms.com/504051/huawei-and-china-mobile-stick-a-
>5g-base-station-on-mount-everest/
>
>   Why dont we leave the Everest alone? OTOH, we can now have
>tiktok
>   videos and latest instagram posts from the summit.
>
>
>
>   Given how dangerous the ascent is, I would think it would be a good
>   thing for climbers to be able to check in and say whether they are
>OK.
>
>   I agree it's mostly a publicity stunt, though.
>
>
>
>

Re: alternative to voip gateways

[Tarko Tikan]

hey,


But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
of individual gateways.


Huawei was already suggested and Nokia ISAM also works very well for 
your application


https://www.nokia.com/networks/products/intelligent-services-access-manager-isam-voice/#overview

Majority of the small consumer gateways (including the 48p ones) will 
not work on long loops, they are ment to be used inside a building etc.



--
tarko