Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990

2020-07-29 Thread Jeff Bilyk
We appeared to be impacted with some address space within 206.47.0.0/16 which AS577 normally advertises, but that was between 15:50 and 16:30 Eastern. Jeff On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 10:48 PM Clinton Work wrote: > We saw a bunch of our IP blocks hijacked by AS10990 from 19:15 MDT until > 20:23 MDT.

Re: Massive Spectrum Outage

2020-07-29 Thread Roy
Northern CA is fine.  Cable and fiber both operating On 7/29/2020 7:36 PM, Kenneth McRae via NANOG wrote: Anyone outside of S. California affected?

BGP route hijack by AS10990

2020-07-29 Thread Clinton Work
We saw a bunch of our IP blocks hijacked by AS10990 from 19:15 MDT until 20:23 MDT. Anybody else have problems with that. ASpath: 1299 7219 10990 50.92.0.0/17AS10990 198.166.0.0/17 AS10990 198.166.128.0/17AS10990 162.157.128.0/17AS10990 162.157.0.0/17 AS10990

Massive Spectrum Outage

2020-07-29 Thread Kenneth McRae via NANOG
Anyone outside of S. California affected?

Re: Finish Line/JD Sports Contact

2020-07-29 Thread Chris Gross
Got a contact, delisted and found a local contact we had too, thank you everyone. Chris Gross NineStar Connect From: NANOG on behalf of Chris Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:22 PM To: nanog list Subject: Finish Line/JD Sports Contact Does anyone have a

Re: Question on BlackBox or Commworks

2020-07-29 Thread Brandon Svec
For national (U.S.), on site techs I can recommend http://www.servicecommunications.com we subcontract for them on the regular and they run a tight ship and have many large national accounts. I would not get hung up on choosing someone with their own employees vs. contracting or hybrid, but more

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 09:43 , Douglas Fischer wrote: > > Does anybody here knows what Gambiarra means? The english translation would be “Jury Rig” or “Hack”. Synonyms include “McGyverism”, “Rube Goldberg”, “Kludge”, etc. Foreign address family as next-hop is definitely in this category. >

RE: Question on BlackBox or Commworks

2020-07-29 Thread Marshall, Quincy
I back Mike’s comments, they support some of our on-prem hardware/software. To my knowledge their senior techs/engineers work remote. For on-site they do not farm services to 3rd parties but to the local BB office. This means the field tech may be trained in the solution but may not be an

Re: Question on BlackBox or Commworks

2020-07-29 Thread Mike Bolitho
We currently use BlackBox and they use their own techs where I'm at (Phoenix). We also used them extensively when I worked for Level 3 several years ago. As with anything, your experience with them will vary largely by location and can even vary within a market. I have dealt with some awesome

Question on BlackBox or Commworks

2020-07-29 Thread Joseph Jenkins
Do you know or have experience with either company? Do they have their own techs are they just bidding out for local techs in the area? I have work that needs to be done all across the US and just trying to look for some options.

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Douglas Fischer
Does anybody here knows what Gambiarra means? Alejandro mentioned that IPv6 NextHop on IPv4 routing breaks traceroute and difficult troubleshooting. Well... Since a while I have been thinking about a Gambiarra that I'm using on other scenarios, but I think could help to reduce de bad impacts of

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Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jul/20 18:35, Nick Hilliard wrote: > You can't use hostnames, if that's what you're asking. Yes, couldn't fathom how. So really it's convenience of troubleshooting, not convenience of setup :-). I can live with that. > FRR will also do > unnumbered BGP with auto-config.

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Mark Tinka wrote on 29/07/2020 17:06: > Meaning the initial setup would still require the use of literal IP > addresses? You can't use hostnames, if that's what you're asking. FRR will also do unnumbered BGP with auto-config. Nick

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Chriztoffer Hansen
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 18:06, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 29/Jul/20 16:54, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > it's a capability negotiation, so is handled on session setup. > > Meaning the initial setup would still require the use of literal IP addresses? Unless your (e.g. DC equipment) is set up for automatic

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jul/20 16:57, Saku Ytti wrote: > I'm not sure I understand what the option space is. This is like ISIS > TLV137, protocol will populate some trash there and you'll politely > access. It won't allow you to refer to the peer with any name prior to > having the session up. Much like you

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jul/20 16:54, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > it's a capability negotiation, so is handled on session setup. Meaning the initial setup would still require the use of literal IP addresses? Mark.

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 18:51, Owen DeLong wrote: > In reality, next hop isn’t really a layer 3 address. The layer 3 address is a > stand-in that is resolved to > a layer 2 address for forwarding. The layer 3 next-hop address never makes it > into the packet. I wish you had shared in the draft

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 02:13 , Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:03, Vincent Bernat wrote: > >> This is the solution Cumulus is advocating to its users, so I suppose >> they have some real users behind that. Juniper also supports RFC 5549 >> but, from the documentation, the

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:54, Mark Tinka wrote: > I'm curious to know if this is after-the-fact, as I can't think of a way > that BGP would find hostnames to setup sessions with, outside of some > kind of upper layer name resolution capability. > > The draft isn't clear on how this happens, if

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Mark Tinka wrote on 29/07/2020 15:51: > I'm curious to know if this is after-the-fact, as I can't think of a way > that BGP would find hostnames to setup sessions with, outside of some > kind of upper layer name resolution capability. > > The draft isn't clear on how this happens, if it is,

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jul/20 16:30, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > afaik, this is an implementation of draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability. Nice. I'm curious to know if this is after-the-fact, as I can't think of a way that BGP would find hostnames to setup sessions with, outside of some kind of upper layer name

Re: Tips on dealing with illicit BGP announcements

2020-07-29 Thread Douglas Fischer
The primary thing that you need to do is to create ROAs of your block allowing only your ASN as Origin. Second, as Siyuan and Justin mentioned, get in touch with Merit RADB. They are great! If you do the full job right in the first e-mail, presenting the allocation of the RIR and the transfer,

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Nick Hilliard
Mark Tinka wrote on 29/07/2020 15:09: > Are the names based on DNS look-ups, or is there some kind of protocol > association between the device underlay and its hostname, as it pertains > to neighbors? afaik, this is an implementation of draft-walton-bgp-hostname-capability. Nick

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jul/20 15:51, Simon Leinen wrote: > > Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down > State/PfxRcd > sw-o(swp16)465108 953559 938348000 03w5d00h > 688 > sw-m(swp18)465108 885442 9383480

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Simon Leinen
Douglas Fischer writes: > And today, I reached on https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5549 [...] > But the questions are: > There is any network that really implements RFC5549? We've been using it for more than two years in our data center networks. We use the Cumulus/FRR implementation on switches

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 14:26, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > https://blog.acostasite.com/2013/02/publicar-prefijos-ipv4-sobre-una-sesion.html > https://blog.acostasite.com/2013/02/publicando-prefijos-ipv6-sobre-sesiones.html > > I did not like, difficult troubleshooting in case something goes

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Long time ago I tried it out: https://blog.acostasite.com/2013/02/publicar-prefijos-ipv4-sobre-una-sesion.html https://blog.acostasite.com/2013/02/publicando-prefijos-ipv6-sobre-sesiones.html I did not like, difficult troubleshooting in case something goes wrong (however I can understand

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 12:58, Vincent Bernat wrote: > I didn't test, but the documentation states: I think only disconnect here is definition of tunnel, there are no additional headers and I don't think the document implies it and the RFC it refers to does not. I've not tried it myself, but my

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 29 juillet 2020 12:13 +03, Saku Ytti: >> This is the solution Cumulus is advocating to its users, so I suppose >> they have some real users behind that. Juniper also supports RFC 5549 >> but, from the documentation, the forwarding part is done using >> lightweight tunnels. > > I'm not sure if

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:03, Vincent Bernat wrote: > This is the solution Cumulus is advocating to its users, so I suppose > they have some real users behind that. Juniper also supports RFC 5549 > but, from the documentation, the forwarding part is done using > lightweight tunnels. I'm not

Re: [v6ops] Question about "Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers"

2020-07-29 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Fred, On 29/7/20 05:15, Fred Baker wrote: Fernando, I asked a specific question, not "send me all of your comments". General discussion of your draft still belongs on the v6...@ietf.org list. Please don't confuse the issue. Apologies if I may have lead to confusion. I just meant to

Re: [v6ops] Question about "Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers"

2020-07-29 Thread Fred Baker
Fernando, I asked a specific question, not "send me all of your comments". General discussion of your draft still belongs on the v6...@ietf.org list. Please don't confuse the issue. > On Jul 28, 2020, at 11:44 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: > > Folks, > > FYI. You can send your comments to if you

Re: RFC 5549 - IPv4 Routes with IPv6 next-hop - Does it really exists?

2020-07-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
Hello, This is implemented in FRR and will also be available in BIRD 2.0.8. Linux accepts IPv6 next-hop for IPv4 natively since 5.3 (no tunnels). This is the solution Cumulus is advocating to its users, so I suppose they have some real users behind that. Juniper also supports RFC 5549 but, from

Fwd: [v6ops] Question about "Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers"

2020-07-29 Thread Fernando Gont
Folks, FYI. You can send your comments to if you wish. Thanks, Fernando Forwarded Message Subject: [v6ops] Question about "Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:55:45 -0700 From: Fred Baker Reply-To: V6Ops-Chairs