Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Ted Hatfield
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020, Hank Nussbacher wrote: At what point do commercial ISPs upgrade links in their backbone as well as peering and transit links that are congested?  At 80% capacity?  90%?  95%?  Thanks, Hank Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express the

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Daniel
When I worked for an ISP, it was about 70%, not sure if that is the case with the other ones. On 8/12/2020 3:31 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: At what point do commercial ISPs upgrade links in their backbone as well as peering and transit links that are congested?  At 80% capacity?  90%?  95%?

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread m.Taichi
Just my curiosity. May I ask how we can measure the link capacity loading? What does it mean by a 50%, 70%, or 90% capacity loading? Load sampled and measured instantaneously, or averaging over a certain period of time (granularity)? These are questions have bothered me for long. Don't know if I

Re: Netflix people?

2020-08-12 Thread Michael Costello via NANOG
Hi Max, If you're continuing to receive unsatisfactory support on this issue, please reach out to me directly. mc On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:42 AM Max Tulyev wrote: > Hi All, > > is there anyone from Netflix? > > We have a strange problem: our customers also customers of Netflix when >

Re: RPKI TAs

2020-08-12 Thread Amreesh Phokeer
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RE: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-12 Thread adamv0025
> From: Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 7:45 PM > > On 11/Aug/20 17:55, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > > Can you elaborate? > > Apart from licensing scheme what stops one from redirecting traffic to > > one vTMS instance per say each transit link or per destination /24 > >

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 17:08, m.Taichi wrote: > Just my curiosity. May I ask how we can measure the link capacity > loading? What does it mean by a 50%, 70%, or 90% capacity loading? > Load sampled and measured instantaneously, or averaging over a certain > period of time (granularity)? > > These are

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 17:08, m.Taichi wrote: > > Just my curiosity. May I ask how we can measure the link capacity > loading? What does it mean by a 50%, 70%, or 90% capacity loading? > Load sampled and measured instantaneously, or averaging over a certain > period of time (granularity)? > > These are

Re: RPKI TAs

2020-08-12 Thread Randy Bush
> We've also simplified our webpage: > https://afrinic.net/rpki/tal > > And the URL to the TAL: > https://rpki.afrinic.net/tal/afrinic.tal thanks! wfm randy

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 10:50, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > This point plays straight up the path of the argument I recounted. > > Yes, I agree that there's a relational problem inherent to the > situation I described. > Wouldn't any wise employer playing the relationship game ensure that > he's

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-12 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
> > Moreover, an employer doesn't have to give in to the whims of a > conceited employee; and most do not. > This point plays straight up the path of the argument I recounted. Yes, I agree that there's a relational problem inherent to the situation I described. Wouldn't any wise employer playing

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 09:44, Saku Ytti wrote: > Personally if the link is in a growth market, you should upgrade > really early, 50% seems late, cost is negligible if you anticipate > growth to continue. If it's not a growth market cost may become less > than negligible. The problem you have is "what

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 09:49, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: > Two more bits' worth ... > > About a year ago, during a discussion with a local network operator's CTO, > I was told that dependency on the operator's employees > for production of software gave the employees too much leverage over > their

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Aug/20 09:31, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > At what point do commercial ISPs upgrade links in their backbone as > well as peering and transit links that are congested?  At 80% > capacity?  90%?  95%?  > We start the process at 50% utilization, and work toward completing the upgrade by 70%

Re: Has virtualization become obsolete in 5G?

2020-08-12 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
Two more bits' worth ... About a year ago, during a discussion with a local network operator's CTO, I was told that dependency on the operator's employees for production of software gave the employees too much leverage over their employer (the operator, here). Perhaps industrial standardization

Re: Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 10:35, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > At what point do commercial ISPs upgrade links in their backbone as well as > peering and transit links that are congested? At 80% capacity? 90%? 95%? I've worked for employees where policy has been anywhere from 50% or 80%. And I know

Bottlenecks and link upgrades

2020-08-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At what point do commercial ISPs upgrade links in their backbone as well as peering and transit links that are congested?  At 80% capacity?  90%?  95%?  Thanks, Hank Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not