I've already had to spike one widely announced WAN UDP protocol that
someone had proposed without thinking through security and DDOS features.
Please don't let's try that trick again.
We have perfectly good approaches that don't involve insecure
untraceable transport layers. This isn't 1985. TCP
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:01 AM Mark Foster wrote:
> And I don't see that opening up a UDP port on every end-user device to
> receive some sort of broadcast (unicast?) is going to be great security. ...
Yeah: This is probably best done by either requiring the streaming services to
know where
- Original Message -
> From: "Masataka Ohta"
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>> the Commission shall complete an
>> inquiry to examine the feasibility of updating the Emergency
>> Alert System to enable or improve alerts to consumers provided
>> through the internet, includ
- Original Message -
> From: "Valdis Klētnieks"
> To: "Matt Hoppes"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:12:40 -0500, Matt Hoppes said:
>> How would that even work? Force a pop up into web traffic?
>
> That's not going to play nicely at all in a world of https://
>
>> What
Let's just go back to air-raid sirens.
I'm old enough to remember when they were tested every day at noon,
which also told you it was noon (lunch!)
We'd say heaven help us if The Enemy attacked at noon.
--
-Barry Shein
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On 3/01/2021 2:41 am, Masataka Ohta wrote:
Sean Donelan wrote:
the Commission shall complete an
inquiry to examine the feasibility of updating the Emergency
Alert System to enable or improve alerts to consumers provided
through the internet, including through streaming services.
It is trivi
On 02 Jan 2021, at 22.38, Matthew Petach wrote:
> It doesn't look like there's currently any internet-capable way of
> consuming the IPAWS feed, at least that a quick search engine
> dive turns up. Wondering if any of the folks here know of providers
> that have signed up with FEMA to redistri
On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 5:45 PM Max Harmony via NANOG
wrote:
>
> On 02 Jan 2021, at 19.18, Matthew Petach wrote:
> > I think the challenge here is that there's a category of people
> > who don't have cell phones, who don't have cable TV, but
> > receive content over their internet connection. I
On 02 Jan 2021, at 19.18, Matthew Petach wrote:
> I think the challenge here is that there's a category of people
> who don't have cell phones, who don't have cable TV, but
> receive content over their internet connection. I happen to
> live with someone like that, so I know it's a non-zero
On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 6:51 AM Sander Steffann wrote:
> Hi,
> [...]
> Just to be clear: this is talking about IP traffic, not things like
> SMS-CB, right? When there are already cell broadcast alerts, I have the
> feeling that adding alerts to IP traffic (however that would be
> supposed to work)
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 05:07:22PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
> Not later than 180 days after the date of
> enactment of this Act, and after providing public notice and
> opportunity for comment, the Commission shall complete an
> inquiry to examine the feasibility of updating the Emergency
> Alert
On 1/2/21 12:40 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:
- On Jan 1, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Matt Hoppes mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
wrote:
Hi,
How would that even work? Force a pop up into web traffic? What if the end
users is using an app on a phone?
Most, if not all, mobile devices connected to c
- On Jan 1, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Matt Hoppes mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
wrote:
Hi,
> How would that even work? Force a pop up into web traffic? What if the end
> users is using an app on a phone?
Most, if not all, mobile devices connected to cellular already have that
option. On
my i
On 1/2/21 8:41 AM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
As streaming services are often offered from distant places
including foreign locations, generations of emergency alert
packets *MUST* be responsibility of *LOCAL* ISPs.
I mean, if you know where you are, it's trivial to ask various services
that already
Hi,
On Fri, 2021-01-01 at 17:07 -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
> The House on Monday and the Senate on Friday have overriden the
> President's veto of the National Defense Authorization Act for
> Fiscal Year 2021 passing it into law.
>
> Among the NDAA's various sections, it includes the Reliable
>
Sean Donelan wrote:
the Commission shall complete an
inquiry to examine the feasibility of updating the Emergency
Alert System to enable or improve alerts to consumers provided
through the internet, including through streaming services.
It is trivially easy to have a dedicated UDP port to rece
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, at 23:12, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> How would that even work? Force a pop up into web traffic? What if
> the end users is using an app on a phone?
Like any other "commission-based study".
Remember, the action is :
"after providing public notice and opportunity for comment,
the
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