Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Feb 10, 2021, at 09:50 , Doug Barton wrote: > > On 2/10/21 5:56 AM, Ca By wrote> >> The 3 cellular networks in the usa, 100m subs each, use ipv6 to uniquely >> address customers. And in the case of ims (telephony on a celluar), it is >> ipv6-only, afaik. > > So that answers the

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Feb 10, 2021, at 06:11 , Bjørn Mork wrote: > > Ca By writes: > >> The 3 cellular networks in the usa, 100m subs each, use ipv6 to uniquely >> address customers. And in the case of ims (telephony on a celluar), it is >> ipv6-only, afaik. > > I certainly agree that this is easier and

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Feb 10, 2021, at 04:29 , Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: >> Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 >> without running out of >> addresses and without creating partitioned networks. > > OK.. I'll bite.

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/10/21 19:50, Doug Barton wrote: I also reject the premise that any org, no matter how large, needs to uniquely number every endpoint. When I was doing IPAM for a living, not allowing the workstations in Tucson to talk to the printers in Singapore was considered a feature.

DNSSEC question

2021-02-10 Thread Randy Carpenter
Any DNSSEC experts that could help with a question about a specific domain? Off-list please. thanks, -Randy

Re: 2021.02.10 community meeting unofficial notes

2021-02-10 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Matt, thank you for the notes, very helpful! (Also, sorry for dropping out of the BoF, my ISP decided it was time for some downtime, I hope they'll get it sorted) Elmar.

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:30 PM Izaac wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 02:47:32PM +0100, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote: > > certain large corporations that have run out of RFC1918, etc. space > > At what level of incompetence must an organization operate to squander > roughly 70,000 /24

Re: 2021.02.10 community meeting unofficial notes

2021-02-10 Thread Valerie Wittkop
Ahem… slides are linked… you must click on the talk title under the “Topic” column of the agenda. Cheers, Valerie Valerie Wittkop - NANOG Program Director 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100, Ann Arbor, MI 48108 Tel: +1 866 902 1336, ext 103 > On Feb 10, 2021, at 12:59 PM, Matthew Petach

Re: 2021.02.10 community meeting unofficial notes

2021-02-10 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Thank you for this! On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:00 Matthew Petach wrote: > > It was mentioned in the chat this morning that > there was no link to slides or anything on the agenda > for the community meeting that happened this morning, > so I offered to share the notes I was jotting down during

2021.02.10 community meeting unofficial notes

2021-02-10 Thread Matthew Petach
It was mentioned in the chat this morning that there was no link to slides or anything on the agenda for the community meeting that happened this morning, so I offered to share the notes I was jotting down during the meeting, to give an idea of what was covered for those in timelines not as

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 2/10/21 5:56 AM, Ca By wrote> The 3 cellular networks in the usa, 100m subs each, use ipv6 to uniquely address customers. And in the case of ims (telephony on a celluar), it is ipv6-only, afaik. So that answers the question of how to scale networks past what can be done with 1918 space.

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Ca By
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 6:11 AM Bjørn Mork wrote: > Ca By writes: > > > The 3 cellular networks in the usa, 100m subs each, use ipv6 to uniquely > > address customers. And in the case of ims (telephony on a celluar), it is > > ipv6-only, afaik. > > I certainly agree that this is easier and

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Ca By writes: > The 3 cellular networks in the usa, 100m subs each, use ipv6 to uniquely > address customers. And in the case of ims (telephony on a celluar), it is > ipv6-only, afaik. I certainly agree that this is easier and makes more sense. I just don't buy the "can't be done" wrt using

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Ca By
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 5:50 AM Bjørn Mork wrote: > Ca By writes: > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:32 AM Valdis Klētnieks < > valdis.kletni...@vt.edu> > > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: > >> > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Ca By writes: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:32 AM Valdis Klētnieks > wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: >> > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 >> without running out of >> > addresses and without creating partitioned networks.

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Owen DeLong writes: > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 > without running out of > addresses and without creating partitioned networks. > > If you can’t, then I’m not the one making excuses. You added "without ..." and did not explain why. This does

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Ca By
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:32 AM Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: > > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 > without running out of > > addresses and without creating partitioned networks. > > OK.. I'll bite. What

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:04:43 -0800, Owen DeLong said: > Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 > without running out of > addresses and without creating partitioned networks. OK.. I'll bite. What network design needs 40M endpoints and can't tolerate partitioned

Re: DoD IP Space

2021-02-10 Thread Owen DeLong
Please explain to me how you uniquely number 40M endpoints with RFC-1918 without running out of addresses and without creating partitioned networks. If you can’t, then I’m not the one making excuses. Owen > On Feb 9, 2021, at 15:44 , Izaac wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 02:36:57PM