Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-17 Thread Dan Hollis
paypal used to openly support token 2fa, but have since made it nearly 
impossible to use hardware tokens. they try very hard to ram sms down 
everyones throats.


-Dan

On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, Mel Beckman wrote:


No, every SMS 2FA should be prohibited by regulatory certifications. The telcos 
had years to secure SMS. They did nothing. The plethora of well-secured 
commercial 2FA authentication tokens, many of them free, should be a mandatory 
replacement for 2FA in every security governance regime, such as PCI, financial 
account access, government web portals, etc.

-mel via cell

On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:

???
Every SMS 2FA should check the current carrier against the carrier when 
enrolled and unenroll SMS for 2FA when a number is ported out. BofA and a few 
others do this.

--
Tim

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:02 PM Eric Kuhnke 
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://lucky225.medium.com/its-time-to-stop-using-sms-for-anything-203c41361c80

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/can-we-stop-pretending-sms-is-secure-now/


Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully 
ported peoples' numbers using nothing more than a JPG scan of a signature that 
looks like an illegible 150 dpi black and white blob, pasted in an image editor 
on top of a generic looking 'phone bill'.





Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-17 Thread Mel Beckman
No, every SMS 2FA should be prohibited by regulatory certifications. The telcos 
had years to secure SMS. They did nothing. The plethora of well-secured 
commercial 2FA authentication tokens, many of them free, should be a mandatory 
replacement for 2FA in every security governance regime, such as PCI, financial 
account access, government web portals, etc.

-mel via cell

On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:


Every SMS 2FA should check the current carrier against the carrier when 
enrolled and unenroll SMS for 2FA when a number is ported out. BofA and a few 
others do this.

--
Tim

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:02 PM Eric Kuhnke 
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://lucky225.medium.com/its-time-to-stop-using-sms-for-anything-203c41361c80

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/can-we-stop-pretending-sms-is-secure-now/


Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully 
ported peoples' numbers using nothing more than a JPG scan of a signature that 
looks like an illegible 150 dpi black and white blob, pasted in an image editor 
on top of a generic looking 'phone bill'.




Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-17 Thread Tim Jackson
Every SMS 2FA should check the current carrier against the carrier when
enrolled and unenroll SMS for 2FA when a number is ported out. BofA and a
few others do this.

--
Tim

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:02 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

>
> https://lucky225.medium.com/its-time-to-stop-using-sms-for-anything-203c41361c80
>
>
> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/can-we-stop-pretending-sms-is-secure-now/
>
>
> Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully
> ported peoples' numbers using nothing more than a JPG scan of a signature
> that looks like an illegible 150 dpi black and white blob, pasted in an
> image editor on top of a generic looking 'phone bill'.
>
>
>


Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

2021-04-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
https://lucky225.medium.com/its-time-to-stop-using-sms-for-anything-203c41361c80

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/can-we-stop-pretending-sms-is-secure-now/


Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully
ported peoples' numbers using nothing more than a JPG scan of a signature
that looks like an illegible 150 dpi black and white blob, pasted in an
image editor on top of a generic looking 'phone bill'.


Re: BGP Graceful Restart

2021-04-17 Thread lobna gouda
Hello Graham,

I had a chance to analysis this topic GR and GR helper mode( default) for EoR 
msg and for the LLGR timer afterwards and had e-mail correspondence  with the 
RFC auther.
I would say based on your environment topology and the type of BGP fault/error. 
You keep the default mode unless BFD is configured. Even if you donot have GR 
configured.  There is benefit to help your neigh ( if no BFD) in the restart 
process based on the type of  peering relation.

Now, to enable GR itself. You have to know what are you doing and why and where 
in the network it is actually enabled. Still, you don't enable it where BFD is 
configured.

Brgds,

LG

From: NANOG  on behalf of 
Graham Johnston 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:11 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: BGP Graceful Restart

I do believe that I understand the intended purpose of BGP
graceful-restart. With that said, I was watching a video of a talk
given by someone respected in the industry the other day on the use of
graceful-shutdown and at the beginning of the talk there was a quick
disclaimer that his topic had nothing to do with graceful-restart
along with some text on the slide that provided me a clear indication
that he was not a fan of graceful-restart.

Largely, I suspect that his point was that if you otherwise do the
right things during maintenance that graceful-restart has the
potential of being really problematic if things go wrong, and thus he
was discouraging the use of it. Is there consensus as to whether
graceful-restart has any place in a service provider network?

Thanks,
Graham


Re: BGP Graceful Restart

2021-04-17 Thread Mark Tinka




On 4/16/21 16:11, Graham Johnston wrote:

I do believe that I understand the intended purpose of BGP
graceful-restart. With that said, I was watching a video of a talk
given by someone respected in the industry the other day on the use of
graceful-shutdown and at the beginning of the talk there was a quick
disclaimer that his topic had nothing to do with graceful-restart
along with some text on the slide that provided me a clear indication
that he was not a fan of graceful-restart.

Largely, I suspect that his point was that if you otherwise do the
right things during maintenance that graceful-restart has the
potential of being really problematic if things go wrong, and thus he
was discouraging the use of it. Is there consensus as to whether
graceful-restart has any place in a service provider network?


When the majority of the hardware we had had a single control plane, we 
used GR on those (and only inside our AS).


But as nearly 100% of all our BGP-speaking hardware now has dual control 
planes, we just go for the vendor's NSR implementation. We've found that 
to be a lot more reliable because it is locally significant, 
predictable, and generally works well as it has matured a great deal in 
the last decade.


Mark.